A new kind of vps, a proposal for the people of LES

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  • Can I #DOUBLE everything by buying two?

    It really do be like that sometimes

  • @shadowban said:

    On topic, will there be offsite (kitchen cabinet) pendrive backups as paid addon?

    Please read the OP. There are two off-site backups: one is in my office, and the other is in my other's house on the Ligurian coast (for optimal cooling). Both are QNAP running 2x12T RAID1 with PBS on it.
    If you want me to passthrough a usb pendrive, that'll be an one off cost of 1€ (plus shipping).

    @root said:

    That's a ripoff. You must be thinking we are rich or something to order NAT at 1 EUR per month. We got bills to pay too.

    Scalway offers IPv6 with all ports for half that price. And Calin (your model inspiration) literally has an offer on LES frontpage with $5.5/year. :smile:

    You know what, when i read your post i immediately felt bad. As if i would rip off the LES community.
    I spent one hour of driving by thinking about what to write, talking aloud to an imaginary you, pretending there was an argument. People often do not realize that the words they write don't hurt, but i can guarantee that behind this person that pretends to be an animal on the internet for fun, there is a real heart a real brain, with real fingers and real ligaments, touching real keys on a real computer. And all of these things can hurt or be damaged in many ways, and one of them with words.

    So please, before calling me a rip-off, consider everything that has happened and lead us to this moment. You say "Scalway offers IPv6 with all ports for half that price".
    Well. First of all i couldn't find any "Scalway" company that sells those VPS.
    And even if they existed, do they offer the same 1.23gb RAM 4.56mb SWAP 78.9GB storage i offer? Do they offer a way to change your ip address whenever you want? You have to consider that a VPS is not just a VPS, it's a whole world. You're not spending 1€ in vps, you're spending 1€ in priceless fun. Don't have 1€ to spare? Alright, guess we'll have fun without you.

    I've tried to contact Calin for a collaboration but i haven't hear back ever since, probably something with them missing SFP and rDNS on the mail server, but i might be wrong.

    @jmaxwell said:

    @foxone said:

    @jmaxwell said:
    1€ Per what? Month ? Year? Lifetime ?

    Month

    Naah
    We get pretty decent KVM VPS with dedicated IPv4 for equal or even less than that price

    If you send me a link where you can get a KVM VPS with dedicated IPv4 and a comparable result on YABS i will pay it for you for two years.

    @ralf said:
    32GB for the entire node? :o

    How many users are you planning to put on this thing?

    I plan to upgrade to 64G soon, issue is the server only has two so-dimms.

    @ralf said:
    Also it might be fanless, but the HDD noise will drive you crazy when you're trying to be asleep. What you save in heating costs, you'll spend on earplugs.

    No, these TOSHIBAs are quite quiet, and most reads/writes are dissipated into the SSDs.

    @Khalequzzaman said:
    What would be the price with a dedicated IPv4? Expected?

    That will require me to get another dedicated line, you will receive dedicated residential 200/20 for 19€/mo
    Included is also a 4G sim card with unlimited traffic which should work fine all over eu (i can ship it to you)

    @Cameron said:
    Can I #DOUBLE everything by buying two?

    Comment your order number

  • @foxone said:

    @root said:

    That's a ripoff. You must be thinking we are rich or something to order NAT at 1 EUR per month. We got bills to pay too.

    Scalway offers IPv6 with all ports for half that price. And Calin (your model inspiration) literally has an offer on LES frontpage with $5.5/year. :smile:

    You know what, when i read your post i immediately felt bad. As if i would rip off the LES community.
    I spent one hour of driving by thinking about what to write, talking aloud to an imaginary you, pretending there was an argument. People often do not realize that the words they write don't hurt, but i can guarantee that behind this person that pretends to be an animal on the internet for fun, there is a real heart a real brain, with real fingers and real ligaments, touching real keys on a real computer. And all of these things can hurt or be damaged in many ways, and one of them with words.

    So please, before calling me a rip-off, consider everything that has happened and lead us to this moment. You say "Scalway offers IPv6 with all ports for half that price".
    Well. First of all i couldn't find any "Scalway" company that sells those VPS.
    And even if they existed, do they offer the same 1.23gb RAM 4.56mb SWAP 78.9GB storage i offer? Do they offer a way to change your ip address whenever you want? You have to consider that a VPS is not just a VPS, it's a whole world. You're not spending 1€ in vps, you're spending 1€ in priceless fun. Don't have 1€ to spare? Alright, guess we'll have fun without you.

    I've tried to contact Calin for a collaboration but i haven't hear back ever since, probably something with them missing SFP and rDNS on the mail server, but i might be wrong.

    I meant Scaleway. It was a typo. If you type "scalway" in search engine you should get the Scaleway result though. Here is the offer for your convenience.

    Meanwhile...

    How are you... online?

  • Backups on an QNAP device? I hope it’s
    Not connected to the internet…..

  • foxonefoxone OG
    edited November 2022

    @root said:
    I meant Scaleway. It was a typo. If you type "scalway" in search engine you should get the Scaleway result though. Here is the offer for your convenience.

    A single vCPU.

    I give eight of them.

    One GB of RAM.

    I give 1.27Gb of it.

    An IPv4 address

    I give five high quality ports

    10GB of local storage

    i offer 87gb!!!!

    and up to 100Mbps of bandwidth

    I offer 200mb!!!!!

    No backups, no ip change, no bidet, and one of the most blacklisted networks

    How the fuck do you even consider that little French fart a comparable server??? Are you out of your mind?

    @Nekki said:
    Backups on an QNAP device? I hope it’s
    Not connected to the internet…..

    Hello,
    as i said, these are QNAP devices running PBS.
    PBS replaces the insecure OS which QNAP is running by default.

    For your serenity of mind, i'll let you know that they are also connected between each other with wireguard, with internet connection cut off (they access the wireguard device through an external router).

    Regards,
    [email protected]

  • @Nekki said:
    Backups on an QNAP device? I hope it’s
    Not connected to the internet…..

    Maybe this is an added free bonus. The backups are freely available for others to make backups of your backups! Can never have enough backups.

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    It really do be like that sometimes

  • rootroot OG
    edited November 2022

    @foxone said:
    [...] Scaleway [...]
    How the fuck do you even consider that little French fart a comparable server??? Are you out of your mind?

    Oh well, it did not even launch properly and I can already contemplate on the nigh end for this one. Good luck @foxone - you're gonna need it.

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    How are you... online?

  • Could you please describe how do you manage load balance that ADSL and 5g? Genuinly interested.

  • Offer violates rules: OP doesn't have provider tag and offer is not free.

    ServerFactory aff best VPS; HostBrr aff best storage.

  • MicronodeMicronode Hosting Provider

    @yoursunny It's not even an offer currently:

    The offer is not live yet but i wanted to know your opinion: would you buy something like this?

  • CalinCalin Hosting Provider
    edited November 2022

    @foxone said: I've tried to contact Calin for a collaboration but i haven't hear back ever since, probably something with them missing SFP and rDNS on the mail server, but i might be wrong.

    >

    Sorry but i m don t receive you message :) my discord it's: Stapinu#0670

    PS: I m really liked you project , I died of laughter
    PSv2: if you want to warm up, you need at least 10 servers

    Regards,
    Calin

  • The port lottery thing would be cool if we could run whatever service we want on each port... Otherwise it's just a total gamble on if you get a port for a service you want to host. That's the main thing that makes me pause.

    Those 1L business desktops are great little home server machines. I currently have 5 of them with 4C/8T CPUs, 32GB RAM, and 120GB+500GB SSDs for the OS and my Docker swarm cluster. Works quite well, very compact, fairly energy efficient and quiet.

    Cheap dedis are my drug, and I'm too far gone to turn back.

  • foxonefoxone OG
    edited November 2022

    @root said:

    @foxone said:
    [...] Scaleway [...]
    How the fuck do you even consider that little French fart a comparable server??? Are you out of your mind?

    Oh well, it did not even launch properly and I can already contemplate on the nigh end for this one. Good luck @foxone - you're gonna need it.

    Scaleway is a baguette, my server is like a home cooked pizza made by your italian grandma. What would you eat? Good luck with your baguette.

    @legendary said:
    Could you please describe how do you manage load balance that ADSL and 5g? Genuinly interested.

    Hello,
    all traffic goes through a VPS over at TIM DC ( https://wholesaledigitalstore.it/ ). The outbound IP is the same, but connections are divided based on load. This way the outgoing ip is always the same.
    It does get a bit messy with latency but so far it worked okay.

    @yoursunny said:
    Offer violates rules: OP doesn't have provider tag and offer is not free.

    Counterargument: i am not offering a server, i'm offering an entrance to a circus which also comes with a free server.
    Offer is free to be bough or not.

    @Calin said:

    @foxone said: I've tried to contact Calin for a collaboration but i haven't hear back ever since, probably something with them missing SFP and rDNS on the mail server, but i might be wrong.

    >

    Sorry but i m don t receive you message :) my discord it's: Stapinu#0670

    PS: I m really liked you project , I died of laughter
    PSv2: if you want to warm up, you need at least 10 servers

    Regards,
    Calin

    Dear Calin,
    there is also a RTX3080 + RTX2060 + GTX1660 generating furry porn art with Stable Diffusion 24/7. The side of the house with the servers is already getting warmer.

    Regards
    Foxo
    [email protected]

    @CamoYoshi said:
    The port lottery thing would be cool if we could run whatever service we want on each port... Otherwise it's just a total gamble on if you get a port for a service you want to host. That's the main thing that makes me pause.

    Those 1L business desktops are great little home server machines. I currently have 5 of them with 4C/8T CPUs, 32GB RAM, and 120GB+500GB SSDs for the OS and my Docker swarm cluster. Works quite well, very compact, fairly energy efficient and quiet.

    Yes. I find those prebuilts with weird designs and form factors much more fun to hack on (soldering!) than normal computers which are the same since the '00.

  • @foxone said: Counterargument: i am not offering a server, i'm offering an entrance to a circus which also comes with a free server.

    Offer is free to be bough or not.

    more like that entire circus is inside of the server.

  • @yoursunny said:
    Offer violates rules: OP doesn't have provider tag and offer is not free.

    Who cares? This is how Calin started, and look where we are now.

    How are you... online?

  • @yoursunny said
    Offer violates rules: OP doesn't have provider tag and offer is not free.

    Doesn't need it, he's pretty much channeling the spirit of the low end with this offer. That's not a provider by any metric 😝

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  • havochavoc OGContent Writer

    @Khalequzzaman said:
    What would be the price with a dedicated IPv4? Expected?

    on ADSL? top kek

  • @chris said:

    @yoursunny said
    Offer violates rules: OP doesn't have provider tag and offer is not free.

    Doesn't need it, he's pretty much channeling the spirit of the low end with this offer. That's not a provider by any metric 😝

    I provide fun

    @havoc said:

    @Khalequzzaman said:
    What would be the price with a dedicated IPv4? Expected?

    on ADSL? top kek

    I'm still waiting for FTTH to arrive :(

  • rootroot OG
    edited November 2022

    Why do we pay attention to this crap? He does not even have a provider tag and we indulge him in an offensive behaviour towards other providers? Is LES going the path of wooden frames, basements and shit hardware just for the sake of low-end?

    This thread is long overdue. It should be closed (my opinion).

    How are you... online?

  • @root said:
    Why do we pay attention to this crap? He does not even have a provider tag and we indulge him in an offensive behaviour towards other providers? Is LES going the path of wooden frames, basements and shit hardware just for the sake of low-end?

    This thread is long overdue. It should be closed (my opinion).

    Perhaps a new forum category for "hosting at home" or "bad idea hosting" is needed so we can separate the wheat from the chaff.

    Cheap dedis are my drug, and I'm too far gone to turn back.

  • @CamoYoshi said:
    Perhaps a new forum category for "hosting at home" or "bad idea hosting" is needed so we can separate the wheat from the chaff.

    yoursunny summer host Inc will be posting offers in "bad idea hosting" category.
    Did I mention we'll release experimental IPv4 services soon™?

    ServerFactory aff best VPS; HostBrr aff best storage.

  • @root said:
    Why do we pay attention to this crap? He does not even have a provider tag and we indulge him in an offensive behaviour towards other providers? Is LES going the path of wooden frames, basements and shit hardware just for the sake of low-end?

    This thread is long overdue. It should be closed (my opinion).

    The thread is funny, therefore it should stay IMO. Not like they're scamming anyone or being dishonest about what they're doing.

  • FrankZFrankZ Moderator
    edited November 2022

    @foxone said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Offer violates rules: OP doesn't have provider tag and offer is not free.

    Counterargument: i am not offering a server, i'm offering an entrance to a circus which also comes with a free server.
    Offer is free to be bough or not.

    @foxone your counter argument is not really valid IMHO. If you were really going to offer this you would need to sign up for a provider tag and meet all the requirements.

    @root said:
    Why do we pay attention to this crap? He does not even have a provider tag and we indulge him in an offensive behaviour towards other providers? Is LES going the path of wooden frames, basements and shit hardware just for the sake of low-end?

    This thread is long overdue. It should be closed (my opinion).

    You, me, and many others may not think that it is a viable idea, but this is a forum so the discussion is valid.

    @CamoYoshi said: Perhaps a new forum category for "hosting at home"

    The thread is funny, therefore it should stay IMO. Not like they're scamming anyone or being dishonest about what they're doing.

    I agree and as long as this does not become an offer to purchase personally I'm fine with it.


    EDIT: After reading though this thread again. I expect that @foxone is just punking us and this is a parody of of some of the ultra low end providers that have recently evolved at LES. Tell me true, did you purposely omit the /s at the end of the OP.

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  • I personally add category "Laughter And Fun". Dump all cest pit into it.

  • @legendary said:
    I personally add category "Laughter And Fun". Dump all cest pit into it.

    So you would buy a $1/month service and finance such basement projects just for laughter and fun?

    How are you... online?

  • Not gonna buy but I think it's fun. Lighten up and let people have their fun in they want.

    Keith

  • @root said:

    @legendary said:
    I personally add category "Laughter And Fun". Dump all cest pit into it.

    So you would buy a $1/month service and finance such basement projects just for laughter and fun?

    All the terms are clear on the OP. This is a clown project to have fun. if you don't want to have fun, you can just ignore it.
    You really think a couple of euros a month are gonna change my life? Start my company? I already earn enough with my current job, enough to have some spare money to waste invest in fun projects like this one. Only a fool would think i would do this for profit and not shitposting

  • @foxone said:
    I offer 200mb!!!!!

    Is the traffic unlimited?

  • @caytretramdot said:

    @foxone said:
    I offer 200mb!!!!!

    Is the traffic unlimited?

    Not unlimited, unmetered.
    It means i don't even measure it but if you cause enough trouble to your neighbors i'll switch you to a DSL MUX (512/128)

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  • @root said:

    @legendary said:
    I personally add category "Laughter And Fun". Dump all cest pit into it.

    So you would buy a $1/month service and finance such basement projects just for laughter and fun?

    I would gladly pay even more (~1.99/mo.) for the sake of good quality drama. Majority of us would do the same. When your are in a castle, you need clowns, otherwise it gets boring.

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