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        <title>Billing — LowEndSpirit</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 04:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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        <title>Hostbill Enterprise lifetime license available to transfer</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10895/hostbill-enterprise-lifetime-license-available-to-transfer</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2026 03:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Service Transfers</category>
        <dc:creator>Baby6</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello!<br />
After getting permission from <a href="https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/profile/AnthonySmith" rel="nofollow">@AnthonySmith</a> I am posting this here.</p>

<p>I have a <strong>Hostbill Enterprise</strong> billing software lifetime license, which is 5 years old.</p>

<p>I have not used it for more than 3 years.</p>

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  <p>** Note: Hostbill provides 20 free support tickets with this license. In this 5/6 years, I have only used 2. So there are 18 free tickets still left to use.**</p>
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<p>So now I think I should transfer it to another person or company who actually needs it.</p>

<p><strong>The original license cost</strong><br />
Hostbill Enterprise = $999<br />
Asking Price = $750 (A little bit negotiable)</p>

<p><strong>Official Pricing:</strong> <a href="https://hostbillapp.com/pricing/" rel="nofollow">https://hostbillapp.com/pricing/</a></p>

<p><strong>The License has everything of Enterprise plan including IPAM</strong></p>

<p><strong>Note:</strong> By default, Hostbill doesn't allow license transfer randomly.</p>

<p><strong>But I opened a ticket and asked Hostbill about the transfer.<br />
Answer:</strong> Yes, they allow license transfer if the whole company or it's asset sale to another entity.</p>

<p><strong>Important:</strong><br />
So in this case, I will treat it as an asset and will issue a sale agreement to the buyer so that he/she will never have any issue in the future.</p>

<p>The license has not been in use for more than 3 years, so I don't think it will cause any issues.</p>

<p><strong>Payment Methods I accept</strong><br />
1. PayPal <strong>(Friends &amp; Family)</strong><br />
2. Bitcoin/BTC</p>

<p>Interested persons, please reply here and send me PM as well.<br />
I may not be available all the time, so when I am back online, I will reply to each of them one by one.</p>

<p><strong>If no one has any offer then I will bump this thread for a while (Not spamming every day)<br />
Then I will let this thread to die slowly</strong></p>
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        <title>Switching billing/control panels - what actually stops you?</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10728/switching-billing-control-panels-what-actually-stops-you</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>General</category>
        <dc:creator>WHMDC</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>We have seen this come up a lot recently.</p>

<p>People aren’t always happy with their current setup (pricing, legacy systems, limitations etc), and you see demos, try things out, have a play around…</p>

<p>…but still end up staying where you are.</p>

<p>What actually makes you stay?</p>

<p>Is it the risk around billing?<br />
Time/effort to migrate?<br />
Missing integrations?<br />
Or just not worth touching something that already works?</p>

<p>Interested to hear from people running real setups.</p>
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        <title>WHMDeskCloud (WHMDC) just launched today – self-hosted hosting automation platform</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10617/whmdeskcloud-whmdc-just-launched-today-self-hosted-hosting-automation-platform</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Industry News</category>
        <dc:creator>WHMDC</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><img src="https://www.whmdc.com/whmdc-logo-black-green.png" alt="" title="" /></p>

<p>Hi everyone,</p>

<p>Some of you might remember me mentioning this project here over the past months while it was still being built.</p>

<p>Today, we finally launched WHMDC (WHMDeskCloud).</p>

<p>It’s a self-hosted hosting automation and billing platform built for hosting providers.</p>

<p>The project originally started after repeatedly running into limitations with existing hosting automation platforms and wanting to experiment with a system where most functionality is included in the core instead of relying on endless paid modules.</p>

<p>Some of the things included:</p>

<p>• unlimited client and service management<br />
• automated billing and invoicing<br />
• built-in support ticket system<br />
• infrastructure integrations<br />
• operational intelligence (revenue visibility, support performance, infrastructure awareness)</p>

<p>We’re a small team based in England, and today is launch day, so feedback from the community would genuinely mean a lot.</p>

<p>Website:<br />
<a rel="nofollow" href="https://whmdc.com" title="https://whmdc.com">https://whmdc.com</a></p>

<p>A question for hosting providers here:</p>

<p>If you were switching to a new automation platform today, what would be the one feature you would absolutely need it to have?</p>

<p>Happy to answer questions and hear what people think.</p>
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        <title>VirMach Affiliate Commissions Unpaid Since 2022 – No Response to Tickets！</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10511/virmach-affiliate-commissions-unpaid-since-2022-no-response-to-tickets</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 03:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Help</category>
        <dc:creator>STEVEN_JOE</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I’m opening this thread to document an ongoing issue with the VirMach affiliate program after attempting to resolve it both privately and publicly.</p>

<p>I have been promoting VirMach for several years and currently have an affiliate balance of $143.85 USD, marked as available for withdrawal in the system. However, no affiliate commission has ever been successfully paid out since 2022.</p>

<p>Over a long period of time, I have submitted withdrawal requests and opened multiple support tickets. Unfortunately, these tickets are consistently left unanswered for weeks and eventually closed or ignored.</p>

<p>I also attempted to raise this issue in the community, but no official response from VirMach has been provided so far, which is why I’m now opening a dedicated thread.</p>

<p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/vjsRwQ1.png" alt="" title="" /><br />
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/pZyBF6C.png" alt="" title="" /></p>

<p>Account details:<br />
• Affiliate ID: 9729<br />
• Latest Ticket ID: #495930<br />
• Ticket Status: Open (no response)</p>

<p>I have fully complied with the affiliate Terms of Service, and all referrals are legitimate. I am not making accusations — I am simply requesting a clear response and resolution regarding the unpaid affiliate balance.</p>

<p>If any VirMach staff or administrators are active here, I would appreciate your assistance. I’m also interested to hear from other affiliates who may be experiencing similar issues.</p>
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        <title>WHMDC: The New Self-Hosted Billing &amp; Automation Platform Entering the Hosting Market</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10191/whmdc-the-new-self-hosted-billing-automation-platform-entering-the-hosting-market</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 12:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Industry News</category>
        <dc:creator>WHMDC</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>WHMDC</strong> is announcing a new self-hosted billing and automation platform built for hosting providers, developers, and service operators who want full control over their infrastructure without SaaS lock-in, per-client billing, or dependency-heavy stacks.</p>

<p><img src="https://whmdc.com/whmdc-logo.png" alt="" title="" /></p>

<p>The goal is to provide a modern, lightweight alternative to incumbent hosting automation platforms such as WHMCS, while addressing long-standing industry concerns including performance, security, licensing models, dependency bloat, and framework complexity.</p>

<hr />

<h2>What WHMDC Is</h2>

<p>WHMDC is a fully self-hosted billing and automation system written in <strong>pure PHP 8 + MySQL</strong>, with <strong>zero Composer or framework dependencies</strong>, allowing it to run smoothly on low-resource VPS, shared hosting environments, or any standard PHP stack.</p>

<p>It provides a complete end-to-end solution for managing clients, services, domains, automation, invoicing, support, payments and more!</p>

<hr />

<h2>Just some of the 109+ (and growing) Features</h2>

<p><strong>• Modern responsive UI</strong><br />
<strong>• Pretty URL routing (no query strings)</strong><br />
<strong>• Stripe, PayPal, Bank Transfer gateways</strong><br />
<strong>• Registrar modules: eNom + Domainbox</strong><br />
<strong>• Invoices, services, tickets, quotes, credits</strong><br />
<strong>• Multi-currency + pro-rata billing</strong><br />
<strong>• Domain search + TLD pricing manager</strong><br />
<strong>• Passkeys (WebAuthn) + email 2FA</strong><br />
<strong>• Modular plugin system (gateways, servers, registrars)</strong><br />
<strong>• Auto Login (cPanel hosting accounts auto login from the client dashboard)</strong> <br />
<strong>• 109+ core features included as standard</strong><br />
<strong>• Entirely self-hosted, putting you back in control</strong></p>

<hr />

<h2>Why WHMDC Is Entering the Market</h2>

<p>The hosting industry has relied heavily on WHMCS for more than a decade.<br />
While it remains widely used, many providers have expressed ongoing concerns about:</p>

<ul>
<li>Software aging &amp; legacy code</li>
<li>Increasing dependency complexity</li>
<li>Framework overhead</li>
<li>Recurring subscription costs</li>
<li>Paid add-ons for essential functionality</li>
<li>Slow UI evolution</li>
<li>Limited transparency around roadmap updates</li>
</ul>

<p>WHMDC aims to offer a fresh approach:</p>

<h3><strong>1. Lightweight Architecture</strong></h3>

<p>Pure PHP 8, no frameworks, no Composer—ideal for low-resource VPS and cPanel.</p>

<h3><strong>2. Full Feature Access</strong></h3>

<p>All premium features included as standard, not locked behind add-ons.</p>

<h3><strong>3. Modern Security Standards</strong></h3>

<p>Built-in passkeys, stronger session controls, and clean routing.</p>

<h3><strong>4. Predictable Ownership</strong></h3>

<p>Self-hosted, no locking, no forced ecosystem, no per-client billing.</p>

<h3><strong>5. Modern UI and UX</strong></h3>

<p>Clean, minimal, modern interface for both admin and client areas.</p>

<hr />

<h2>Early Look &amp; Screenshots</h2>

<p>Full information, preview screens, and feature list are available at:</p>

<p><strong><a rel="nofollow" href="http://" title="https://WHMDC.com">https://WHMDC.com</a></strong></p>

<hr />

<p>WHMDC is currently preparing for wider public release.<br />
Discussion, technical feedback, and industry perspectives are welcome, especially from providers interested in self-hosted alternatives or modern PHP 8 application design.</p>
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        <title>Decentralised vs. centralised external billing?</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/8964/decentralised-vs-centralised-external-billing</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2025 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Industry News</category>
        <dc:creator>AGXL</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>

<p>Some time ago, for data protection reasons (<em>my company has to be GDPR compliant</em>), an expensive management consultant suggested that I decentralise the billing system and manage it for each server location via the upmind platform. With hindsight, I don't know if this was a good idea. I created 50 brand accounts with upmind. These accounts all need to be managed individually. Some time ago I got a free Clientexec licence for a private VPS. I also have a WHMCS licence somewhere.</p>

<p><strong>To cut a long story short:</strong> My question to you would be whether I should run the billing portal decentrally with upmind, which is of course much more time-consuming and cost-intensive, as I have to manage each one individually, or whether I should use a central billing portal for all server locations with e.g. Clientexec or WHMCS? Which is better?</p>

<p>I would appreciate your expertise.</p>
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        <title>Is FOSSBilling (BoxBilling fork) looking promising?</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6072/is-fossbilling-boxbilling-fork-looking-promising</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Industry News</category>
        <dc:creator>desfire</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I added it to my bookmarks months ago, I saw it today and lowkey was impressed by how many changes they are making, the new admin UI looks great (even better than some paid solutions). It's still BETA but it's looking promising.</p>

<p>Hope they change client UI soon too.</p>

<p>Website: <a href="https://fossbilling.org/" rel="nofollow">https://fossbilling.org/</a></p>
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        <title>Time Tracking Tools, Free and Cheap Options</title>
        <link>https://lowendspirit.com/index.php?p=/discussion/2955/time-tracking-tools-free-and-cheap-options</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 17:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>General</category>
        <dc:creator>flips</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
(Maybe related to this <a rel="nofollow" href="https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/2698/accounting-software/">Accounting Software</a> topic.)</p>

<p>I've been looking into and testing different time tracking software. After I switched to Centiga.no for billing and accounting, I also switched to <a rel="nofollow" href="https://clockify.me/">Clockify</a> for tracking hours spent on different projects and clients, and it works well. (I can export CSV and create the reports needed.)<br />
The only thing I'm missing in the free version, is the ability to easily mark hours/entries as billed/finished. (Invoicing is a premium feature, and so is bulk editing.)</p>

<p>So, searching a bit, I found many alternatives. Most cheap or free options has some of the features I want hidden (only available in expensive plans).</p>

<p>For me, the most important is that it should be really quick to (re)start a timer for some project. This is easy in Clockify, but also seems I found a promising alternatives:<br />
1. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://tmetric.com/">TMetric</a>. Seems to have better reporting, easy way to bulk set entries to <em>Invoiced</em> and more. It seems the paid features are stuff I don't need. (Disclaimer: The trial period hasn't ended, so can't yet be 100 % sure if the functionality I've used is available on the free plan.) Support was responsive. Only drawback I found, was no native dark mode.<br />
2. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://futuramo.com/">Futuramo</a> also seemed very promising. It has dark mode, and most features I wanted. Haven't tested it too much yet, as I think I like TMetric's time entry options even better, so giving that a shot first.</p>

<p>I could also mention <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.actitime.com/">actiTIME</a>, which also seems to perform well. The approach is a bit different, and entering time a bit less flexible (but it also has other possibilities, maybe a better fit for some).</p>

<p>My plan was also to give <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.invoiceninja.org/">InvoiceNinja</a> a shot. I did look in the hosted version, but there the reporting module is a part of a paid plan, and I haven't gotten around to installing a self-hosted version yet.</p>

<p>Will see how much more I'll end up testing. If TMetrics keeps working great after the trial period ends, I will probably stick with that.<br />
(I know Centiga.no is planning for a paid module for time tracking, so I might give that a try, though. Direct integration with billing and account would be nice.)</p>

<p>There are quite a few others to check.<br />
(Wasn't sure if General was the correct category.)</p>
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