Dedicated server expansion... we need some feedback!

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So, for many years, we've been offering dedicated servers from our Las Vegas, NV location, and only that location.

While we offer virtual servers out of 6 data centers (four in the US, plus Amsterdam and Singapore), we've never expanded our dedicated server offers beyond our one location as we concentrated more on ColossusCloud, our virtualization platform.

But we are now expanding our Dallas, TX data center and bringing dedicated servers to it. There will be a lot of bandwidth and storage space included for a good price, but so far, we will be installing older generation CPUs, such as the Xeon E5 and Xeon Gold. Although we are playing around with AMD EPYCs...

I know, from reading around the forums, that LES fans love Ryzen CPUs... but... for us, they hold very short term value, since once they are no longer wanted by clients, we can't use them for much anything else later on due to their low 192GB RAM limits (for example, our hypervisors have 1TB of RAM in them and our shared hosting servers, with RAID, have 256GB or more) and low core count.

It reminds me of the old days of clients wanting i7 CPUs on dedicated servers instead of Xeons. Is it similar now with Ryzens instead of EPYCs?

So, the feedback we need is, what do you all look for? And what are some of the best dedicated server deals you've gotten here on LES in the last 12 months or so? Why Ryzen and not EPYC? What do you need?

Help us LES fans, you are our only hope. :)

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  • MikeAMikeA Hosting ProviderOG
    edited May 2

    Ryzen is just a lowendforum thing since these forums are catered around VPS deals mostly. Vast majority of (VPS at least) customers don't give a crap. However, Ryzen does offer great performance for the price, you're just limited on the lack of features compared to a more enterprise config (like the high end Epyc builds).

    I think Ryzen dedicated servers would do well, but if you're building new hardware don't use Ryzen CPUs, use the Epyc alternatives (4004 series). They're just rebadged with slightly more features. Same clock speed and performance.

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    @MikeA said:
    Ryzen is just a lowendforum thing since these forums are catered around VPS deals mostly. Vast majority of (VPS at least) customers don't give a crap. However, Ryzen does offer great performance for the price, you're just limited on the lack of features compared to a more enterprise config (like the high end Epyc builds).

    I think Ryzen dedicated servers would do well, but if you're building new hardware don't use Ryzen CPUs, use the Epyc alternatives (4004 series). They're just rebadged with slightly more features. Same clock speed and performance.

    We've been in touch with Supermicro about their Microcloud servers with those EPYC 4000 series. It is an interesting alternative! Plus, we get IPMI and all their other enterprise features...

    BTW your rackcolo.com website is a very convenient service!

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    Curious as to the colocation market (outside of us) in Dallas nowadays. Which facility did you end up deciding on? Congrats on the expansion!

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  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider

    I just had to comment because I recognized your logo from how many stickers I've had to remove. We bought around 200-300x E3's from you guys some time ago after you decommissioned them, and we're about to put in Ryzens in the last 80~ of them we have left. They've collected a bit of dust over the years. I would make them look a bit more presentable if I wasn't short on time.

    @serverpoint said: But we are now expanding our Dallas, TX data center and bringing dedicated servers to it. There will be a lot of bandwidth and storage space included for a good price, but so far, we will be installing older generation CPUs, such as the Xeon E5 and Xeon Gold.

    You should reach out to us about Oklahoma City, the routing ends up being better than Dallas to a lot of places and I think pricing will likely be better than Dallas, especially for older gear. It works especially well for dual E5/Gold.

    @serverpoint said: So, the feedback we need is, what do you all look for? And what are some of the best dedicated server deals you've gotten here on LES in the last 12 months or so? Why Ryzen and not EPYC? What do you need?

    I've done a good amount of research, and concluded that for dedicated servers that we can turn into future VPS nodes and vice versa, and also keeping power consumption in mind, Epyc is most flexible. Plus if you go with newer generation maybe we can buy those servers from you guys as well in 10 years when you're ready to decommission them!.

    What it sounds like you're looking for specifically is Epyc 4004 as @MikeA mentioned.

  • serverpointserverpoint Hosting Provider
    edited May 5

    @VirMach said:
    I just had to comment because I recognized your logo from how many stickers I've had to remove. We bought around 200-300x E3's from you guys some time ago after you decommissioned them, and we're about to put in Ryzens in the last 80~ of them we have left. They've collected a bit of dust over the years. I would make them look a bit more presentable if I wasn't short on time.

    Just so you know, the next servers you acquire from our next decommission, will also have those stickers on them. ;)

    I remember that decommission and our lead engineer tells me that he is the one that talked to someone from your team and arranged the sale and shipping.

    Yes, we are leaning to EPYCs for our next new generation servers. I think that with Intel, the last generation of CPUs we really liked was the E5v4s. We were never too happy with the Xeon Scalable processors... we just didn't think they were that big of a leap, which explains why Intel is falling behind in many ways...

    We'll keep Oklahoma in our minds. We are looking for new locations; we picked Dallas this time because we already have a setup there at the Infomart building. We will then also set up in Ashburn, Virginia as we also have a node there...

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  • serverpointserverpoint Hosting Provider
    edited May 19

    @hostingbot said:
    Curious as to the colocation market (outside of us) in Dallas nowadays. Which facility did you end up deciding on? Congrats on the expansion!

    I just realized I never replied to your question! Sorry about that!

    The Infomart building is the popular colo destination in Dallas (think 1 Wilshire in LA or 55 Market in San Jose). Infomart is now owned by Equinix, but there are other colo companies inside the building, such as Cologix and Flexential.

    All of them are similarly priced, but I would not recommend Flexential... we are having many contractual issues with them: their contracts are very vague and allow them to raise prices or charge exorbitant fees any time they want for whatever reason, while offering better deals to new clients (which then get their prices increased once they are well established in any of their data centers).

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