What you're asking for could be done for like $700 per 2 years, or $450 per year (or $350 a year plus $150 setup.) It's not perfect math, if I do that then it'd cost a lot more so keep in mind these prices I'm throwing out to people can't really be used to extrapolate between what else I've said (like the $500 per 2 years for the 2600 with 16GB and 4x3TB.)
So $700 per 2 years for 5500, 32GB RAM, 4x3TB HDD, the sneaking in of the SSD is more logistics than price (unknown.)
Monthly? This is me from the future, my formula below tells me $42 to $59 per month (let's say $49.)
EDIT -- Keep in mind compared to the $500 per 2 years this ends up being more because we're removing the "2600" incentive discount, the arbitrary amount I subtracted for not having to deal with reselling those later.
For anyone who does want to extrapolate and kind of see the percent price difference then here's a handy list. Keep in mind this does not consider chassis/board limitations.
You have to start at a base cost of $42 per month for this to work/align properly (for 16GB RAM, 4x1TB HDD, ?? CPU.)
Add $12 per month or 30%~ of base cost to change to 4x3TB HDD
Add $2 per month or 5%~ of base cost to change to 32GB memory
Add $3 per month or 8%~ of base cost to guarantee a Ryzen 5500 processor
Add $4 per month or 10%~ of base cost to change to 64GB memory
Add $24 per month or 60%~ of base cost to change to 128GB ECC memory
Add $8 per month or 20%~ of base cost to change to 4x1TB SSD
Add $4 per month or 10%~ of base cost to add in a 1TB NVMe SSD
Add $8 per month or 20%~ of base cost to add in a 2TB NVMe SSD
Add $16 per month or 40%~ of base cost to add in a 4TB NVMe SSD
Subtract $5 per month or 12%~ of base cost to remove the 4x1TB
Subtract $8 per month or 20%~ of base cost to remove the chassis, heatsink, and power cord
Subtract $8 per month or 20%~ of base cost to remove all your bandwidth
Other notes:
1.5x to 2x the price of everything if it's not for an early bird special.
Subtract an undetermined amount for stuff we might already have available in storage, if longer term*
Subtract whatever else, see below.
So this starts off the base price ($42) in a way where the $25 per month plan is about 60% of the base price. This means for anything where we don't have flexibility, you lose this plus whatever else for adding stuff. Best case scenario though, you can take the "total" price you got above, and multiply it by 0.7x -- and this is the theoretical lowest price we could possibly offer, slightly adjusted for realism.
Switching to annual:
Up to 20% off switching to annual, but cannot go below theoretical lowest price (doesn't stack, just more likely)
Up to 40% off switching to biennial, this hits the actual maximum theoretical (0.6x, not 0.7x)
So going back to what @localhost requested, that'd be $59 per month. Let's see if my formula works in getting close to the price I just gave him ($700 per 2 years.) We can multiply that by 0.6x and then 24x for biennial, that's $850 biennial, pretty close.
*This is where this part comes in, the undetermined amount for stuff we might already have, I did mention we have 3TB drives so in this case it makes sense why I estimated it to be a bit lower.
Update on the "sneaking in" a drive. It seems more plausible to "sneak in" an NVMe SSD but kind of risky unless I do some 3D printing of custom brackets to secure everything properly. The "sneaking in" of a SATA drive is doable but difficult to fit in any type of bracket. However, it will end up becoming the preferred method if there's (a) PCIe issues, or (b) if there ends up being a bigger than anticipated risk of damage to the RAID controller or PCIe extension cable.
For the 2600 specials I'll probably do the SATA SSD route. For the others, if we sneak it into all of them it's better if it's an NVMe because there's limitations on the quantity of SATA power connectors we'll have available from the PSU, only certain PSUs will work.
Also we do have more 500GB NVMe available than SATA, unless I just happen to find a box of like 200 SATA ones. That's also a real possibility.
OKC Update
Good likelihood of some dedicated servers being available by tomorrow, minus any particular setup like with KVMs or provisioning module or figuring out how we want to organize the network. And whatever I build in terms of 5500's will need to have scheduled maintenance later to be able to use the KVMs so I'm trying to figure that out so we can avoid that, as I'll need to take all of those out, and take out the BIOS chip physically to flash it to our custom version.
You had a dedicated server with us previously, right? I feel like you haven't been paying attention so I'll help you out, make a ticket and have me review it. You'll likely be offered a pretty good deal on something.
Short answer, you're better off just buying a plan higher up and using half the resources or whatever. I wouldn't be able to slap the "VDS" sticker on it without doubling the prices. Don't worry we're not going to run out of resources, everyone idles so use that to your benefit if you're not going to idle.
I've been using this strategy for 5+ years now and it's been great, buy 2-3x as much CPU as you'd want, keep the load under 33%, and have zero issues with a core or two being pegged 24/7. You get great burst performance and still keep things under AUP limits. My minecraft server has been riding that 33% load for something like 2 years now, and been way more reliable than the hosted service I replaced. But I digress, I think 2x-3x pricing is expected for VDS services, I don't think doubling the pricing would deter people who were looking for a VDS.
You had a dedicated server with us previously, right? I feel like you haven't been paying attention so I'll help you out, make a ticket and have me review it. You'll likely be offered a pretty good deal on something.
Can confirm, I came in after not paying attention, shot over a ticket with what I was interested in, and talked about an offer that I'm very happy with. I'm excited for dedis to come back, I got a LOT of use out of the last one, definitely get in on this @imok
You had a dedicated server with us previously, right? I feel like you haven't been paying attention so I'll help you out, make a ticket and have me review it. You'll likely be offered a pretty good deal on something.
You had a dedicated server with us previously, right? I feel like you haven't been paying attention so I'll help you out, make a ticket and have me review it. You'll likely be offered a pretty good deal on something.
@VirMach said: Yeah sure, waiting for a confirmation. And @Kris let me know if you want this annual version with 2600 or 3500/5500 version monthly. You mentioned you wanted ASAP. So we have up to three of these I think, that could go to @Wonder_Woman@Kris and @skorous if you're all cool with annual (and biennial to sneak in drive upgrades.)
If I could get the 5500 monthly that'd be awesome. I had a crazy day at work an just seeing this, whatever is left and ready to go I'll take! I want to play with the drives, but if something's racked and ready, that's even better.
You had a dedicated server with us previously, right? I feel like you haven't been paying attention so I'll help you out, make a ticket and have me review it. You'll likely be offered a pretty good deal on something.
You had a dedicated server with us previously, right? I feel like you haven't been paying attention so I'll help you out, make a ticket and have me review it. You'll likely be offered a pretty good deal on something.
according to the video i viewed, recently the quality of the 5700x has been poor recently in overclock, although I won't overclock in the server, it still makes me worried its stability
@VirMach said:
I have a question for you guys, in each price/performance category, pick which one you'd prefer:
For my use, I don't need a ton of threads, if the total cpu perf is as similar as these are, the single core perf is the winner. B and C are close enough that either would be fine, but I think A and D both have around a 30% perf difference in single threaded use, while also doing better multithreaded.
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The DSL line in our apartment, 2016-2017, is on straight wires instead of twisted pair.
Speeds are limited to 5 Mbps due to noise.
vps9hostname is available. affbrrRyzen 5500*, 16 (preferred 32GB RAM), 4x3TB HDD w/ a 500GB SSD snuck in
UsA preferred... how much would this run out to be monthly/ annual?
@virmach
What you're asking for could be done for like $700 per 2 years, or $450 per year (or $350 a year plus $150 setup.) It's not perfect math, if I do that then it'd cost a lot more so keep in mind these prices I'm throwing out to people can't really be used to extrapolate between what else I've said (like the $500 per 2 years for the 2600 with 16GB and 4x3TB.)
So $700 per 2 years for 5500, 32GB RAM, 4x3TB HDD, the sneaking in of the SSD is more logistics than price (unknown.)
Monthly? This is me from the future, my formula below tells me $42 to $59 per month (let's say $49.)
EDIT -- Keep in mind compared to the $500 per 2 years this ends up being more because we're removing the "2600" incentive discount, the arbitrary amount I subtracted for not having to deal with reselling those later.
For anyone who does want to extrapolate and kind of see the percent price difference then here's a handy list. Keep in mind this does not consider chassis/board limitations.
Other notes:
So this starts off the base price ($42) in a way where the $25 per month plan is about 60% of the base price. This means for anything where we don't have flexibility, you lose this plus whatever else for adding stuff. Best case scenario though, you can take the "total" price you got above, and multiply it by 0.7x -- and this is the theoretical lowest price we could possibly offer, slightly adjusted for realism.
Switching to annual:
So going back to what @localhost requested, that'd be $59 per month. Let's see if my formula works in getting close to the price I just gave him ($700 per 2 years.) We can multiply that by 0.6x and then 24x for biennial, that's $850 biennial, pretty close.
*This is where this part comes in, the undetermined amount for stuff we might already have, I did mention we have 3TB drives so in this case it makes sense why I estimated it to be a bit lower.
All of the above is still an estimate.
Update on the "sneaking in" a drive. It seems more plausible to "sneak in" an NVMe SSD but kind of risky unless I do some 3D printing of custom brackets to secure everything properly. The "sneaking in" of a SATA drive is doable but difficult to fit in any type of bracket. However, it will end up becoming the preferred method if there's (a) PCIe issues, or (b) if there ends up being a bigger than anticipated risk of damage to the RAID controller or PCIe extension cable.
For the 2600 specials I'll probably do the SATA SSD route. For the others, if we sneak it into all of them it's better if it's an NVMe because there's limitations on the quantity of SATA power connectors we'll have available from the PSU, only certain PSUs will work.
Also we do have more 500GB NVMe available than SATA, unless I just happen to find a box of like 200 SATA ones. That's also a real possibility.
OKC Update
Good likelihood of some dedicated servers being available by tomorrow, minus any particular setup like with KVMs or provisioning module or figuring out how we want to organize the network. And whatever I build in terms of 5500's will need to have scheduled maintenance later to be able to use the KVMs so I'm trying to figure that out so we can avoid that, as I'll need to take all of those out, and take out the BIOS chip physically to flash it to our custom version.
I want a $250 dedi!!!
You had a dedicated server with us previously, right? I feel like you haven't been paying attention so I'll help you out, make a ticket and have me review it. You'll likely be offered a pretty good deal on something.
Haven't processed any additional requests yet, so let's say they're every 72 hours now. I'll probably do those in a few hours.
Great news everyone, Cogent's being connected today. 🤮
Why 🤮face then?!
I know they not the best... but you ordered it yourself :P
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
https://lowendspirit.com/uploads/editor/gi/ippw0lcmqowk.png
I've been using this strategy for 5+ years now and it's been great, buy 2-3x as much CPU as you'd want, keep the load under 33%, and have zero issues with a core or two being pegged 24/7. You get great burst performance and still keep things under AUP limits. My minecraft server has been riding that 33% load for something like 2 years now, and been way more reliable than the hosted service I replaced. But I digress, I think 2x-3x pricing is expected for VDS services, I don't think doubling the pricing would deter people who were looking for a VDS.
Can confirm, I came in after not paying attention, shot over a ticket with what I was interested in, and talked about an offer that I'm very happy with. I'm excited for dedis to come back, I got a LOT of use out of the last one, definitely get in on this @imok
i hereby explicitly express interest on all $7 2C3G40GB vps
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
I meant a $25/y dedi!
EDIT:
Sorry again, it was $30/y
Has the time for a 1200GB NVMe server arrived?
Looks like virbot now works as support agent.
How did you even get that?
If I could get the 5500 monthly that'd be awesome. I had a crazy day at work an just seeing this, whatever is left and ready to go I'll take! I want to play with the drives, but if something's racked and ready, that's even better.
Dang, what a deal you had!
Is Virmach supported by some kind of mafia or NGO?
@VirMach best I can do is $7/year.
Ok.. just messin
$99/year. Nothing fancy. A couple of rust spinners maybe a small ssd to boot...?
Deal?
/ₛ
Oh, I never thought I'd be able to afford a dedi, but I'll take one of those $30/year dedi's too please!
Although not expecting @VirMach to beat crazy OVH deals but nice to see some competition!
I have a question for you guys, in each price/performance category, pick which one you'd prefer:
A 2600 vs 3500
B 4500 vs 3600
C 5500 vs 3700X
D 3900 vs 5700X
I'm getting so old I don't know anything about those CPUs.
They are CPUs right?
A 2600 - better @ 6c12t
B 3600 - better @ 6c12t
C 3700X - beter @ 8c16t
D 3900X better @ 12c24t
according to the video i viewed, recently the quality of the 5700x has been poor recently in overclock, although I won't overclock in the server, it still makes me worried its stability
Just to note, he asked about 3900 not 3900X. Doubt it changes your reasoning but just in case.
For my use, I don't need a ton of threads, if the total cpu perf is as similar as these are, the single core perf is the winner. B and C are close enough that either would be fine, but I think A and D both have around a 30% perf difference in single threaded use, while also doing better multithreaded.
A 3500
B 3600
C 3700X
D 5700X
waiting for migration..:)
PCIe issue with 2600 resolved. It’s recognizing the RAID controller, everything looks good. SATA SSD successfully snuck in.