@imok said: @VirMach is it possible to have the latest Proxmox ISO here? I like to manually install my servers 😋
Yeah, as soon as I figure out where to add them.
@bakageta said: Ooh, I have an invoice and something in my panel! It looks like my server is still getting ready for server-ing, I don't like that there's so many options for me to cancel everything, time to close out this page and go wait patiently.
If I figure out how to modify the page I'll add in more options for cancelling the process.
You made so many jokes about dedicated servers for $6 a year or whatever than my brain doesn't remember if you actually wanted one anymore or not. @skorous is next in line but I have to check DM with him or wherever we communicated to see if I'm remembering correctly.
@Kris said:
If you get LSI MegaRAID you're going to want to use Unified_storcli_all_os.zip, then ln -s /opt/MegaRAID/storcli/storcli64 /usr/local/bin/storcli
Also make sure to reference drives by UUID, I restarted and /etc/fstab was pissed when my root fs was on /dev/sde, but that was hardcoded to a drive. Changed to UUID (get via lsblk -f) and all good.
Adding it to my mental note to-do list to definitely figure out something that doesn't require people do all that manually, but huge thanks for sharing what you had to go through so everyone else doesn't have to go through it!
@VirMach said: You made so many jokes about dedicated servers for $6 a year or whatever than my brain doesn't remember if you actually wanted one anymore or not. @skorous is next in line but I have to check DM with him or wherever we communicated to see if I'm remembering correctly.
I don't remember talking about the order of delivery but I'm in line somewhere, yes. Though that's for a 2600 if that matters since an earlier comment talked about them possibly needing to be swapped out.
EDIT: I don't think we DM'ed anywhere. You wanted me to declare it publicly in the thread.
I've been wasting a lot of time on finishing up the configurator. I'm finally doing it how I've always wanted to do it, thanks to AI (it'd take way too long to figure out how to do it myself, but I'm getting the hang of it and reading through/fixing the base version.)
Remember, I said how I've always wanted to do it, that doesn't mean it'll be an enjoyable experience.
The last part which I may not get to is having it check against inventory and tell you if we have anything close in stock, or let you proceed as configured and potentially pay a setup fee for customization and confirm you want to wait a few days for the exact configuration you want instead. There's already some built in logic to give you something "close enough" to avoid all that where possible, aka, a free small upgrade. Use that information how you wish if you want to gamble. Not that any of this matters for the sale really, for that I need to figure out how to do the coupons which is probably going to be even more annoying.
I'm reworking pricing now for basically that reason although I have to stay realistic with it, that just means we might not hit the exact price points we want unless I build an entire custom coupon system for it.
@VirMach said: You made so many jokes about dedicated servers for $6 a year or whatever than my brain doesn't remember if you actually wanted one anymore or not. @skorous is next in line but I have to check DM with him or wherever we communicated to see if I'm remembering correctly.
I don't remember talking about the order of delivery but I'm in line somewhere, yes. Though that's for a 2600 if that matters since an earlier comment talked about them possibly needing to be swapped out.
EDIT: I don't think we DM'ed anywhere. You wanted me to declare it publicly in the thread.
Okay I remember, wow that was an awful idea on my part. Time to go figure out what was agreed, I vaguely remember it being like $300 a year or $500 per 2 years or something for some 2600 option, yeah. Okay give me a moment.
You made so many jokes about dedicated servers for $6 a year or whatever than my brain doesn't remember if you actually wanted one anymore or not. @skorous is next in line but I have to check DM with him or wherever we communicated to see if I'm remembering correctly.
I might have to end up giving up and create several different products but I generally don't like having a bunch of split up products especially for one type of server in one location. I'd tell you guys not to order, I doubt you will at the MSRP prices for no reason.
If you guys could take a look and let me know what's still bugged out with it that would be greatly appreciated.
Of course if you hate the way it's done, you can just click "Show Overview" and do it normally. For the configurator you'd use the usual buttons to zoom, pan, rotate. If anything breaks, check Chrome console and provide the debugging although it might be useless from how excessive the logs are right now. Mobile was a PITA to do, I've only gotten so far with that. And of course as I'm posting this I've already found a bug.. and fixed, I'm sure that didn't just break another part.
Current known bugs which I just also found and don't feel like fixing:
When you switch to "None" after picking disk, it doesn't update back to "None" in the view but does actually change it Fixed at least for disk
Says "Monthly" for other terms even though it does calculate the right price for selected term. Fixed
No longer shows setup fee for send your own disk, it did work in an earlier version so has to be restored. Nevermind I forgot I just removed the setup fee for this for annual, it still works.
Number of RAM sticks don't show properly, I'm not fixing this, I made it worse then gave up.
After fixing the above, I broke the checkmarks for selected parts
You made so many jokes about dedicated servers for $6 a year or whatever than my brain doesn't remember if you actually wanted one anymore or not. @skorous is next in line but I have to check DM with him or wherever we communicated to see if I'm remembering correctly.
Yeah
I've always wanted one...
I can crank up more jokes 😃
Genuinely still don't know what this means. At this point if you wanted one, private message me an explicit confirmation of what it was you wanted so I can actually get it to you.
You made so many jokes about dedicated servers for $6 a year or whatever than my brain doesn't remember if you actually wanted one anymore or not. @skorous is next in line but I have to check DM with him or wherever we communicated to see if I'm remembering correctly.
Yeah
I've always wanted one...
I can crank up more jokes 😃
Genuinely still don't know what this means. At this point if you wanted one, private message me an explicit confirmation of what it was you wanted so I can actually get it to you.
@localhost said: This, is fancy stuff. Looks great. Sure some prices need to be fixed (like 3rd hot swapped hdd for 3tb is higher)
Thanks this helps a lot I remembered there was a specific thing like that but couldn't find it and that's exactly what I was looking for, you saved me probably at least 15 minutes at my current pace.
@VirMach Looks sweet. I had an issue when I tapped somewhere on the page and it made iOS Chrome not be able to do anything, broke the page somehow. I was going to replicate it to share with you but I couldn't get it to happen again.. not sure what I did before.
I see this fancy thing, but does it translate correctly to the RAM slot thing? Like you only have 8GB sticks and we can fight for dual/quad channel and you won't just put single 16GB stick? Like I know this is fancy, but people gonna be angry [up to chargeback] when they see 4 sticks on configurator and end with 2 in system.
also no validation - like I can get a system without any dicks plus what I am supposed to do here on mobile view?
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@MikeA said: @VirMach Looks sweet. I had an issue when I tapped somewhere on the page and it made iOS Chrome not be able to do anything, broke the page somehow. I was going to replicate it to share with you but I couldn't get it to happen again.. not sure what I did before.
Mobile was mostly an afterthought after a friend me reminded me phones exist. Then it bothered me and I had to spend some time getting it to be usable. I couldn't get tapping to work well on it so I just soft "force" a guided walkthrough.
I assume it could be a lot worse on Android/Chrome since I only looked at Safari.
Must have taken some time to make that.
As it usually goes, the last few little minor things took an agonizingly long time.
Number of RAM sticks don't show properly, I'm not fixing this, I made it worse then gave up.
The empty 8GB was me making it worse.
@Jab said: I see this fancy thing, but does it translate correctly to the RAM slot thing? Like you only have 8GB sticks and we can fight for dual/quad channel and you won't just put single 16GB stick?
Only 2x and 4x and the original plan was to have it show as such, which is why it got so broken. It did work at some point where it showed 1, 2, 3, 4. But I wanted it to be 2 and 4 only, then gave up and halfway mixed it up and yeah, we're at the worst possible version right now for it. But I did make the sticks look a little nicer.
@Jab said: when they see 4 sticks on configurator and end with 2 in system
This part wouldn't be possible to get accurate unless we do an inventory check before every change you make, as a joke I could enable "accuracy mode" once I get done with the other part of the project that does inventory checks, where you have to wait 30 seconds for each validation so it can display the number of sticks correctly.
So the goal was to have it show 2 sticks for 8GB, 16GB, and 4 sticks for 32GB, 64GB.
@Jab said: also no validation - like I can get a system without any dicks plus what I am supposed to do here on mobile view?
Disks are like that on purpose, one option used to be called "Any/None" but I might have just changed it to "None" and decided to show some type of message or modal about you getting whatever's available. I think it's because I thought "Any/None" would be even more confusing. But hey if people are upset this particular one doesn't match we can always remove their complimentary disk.
To be fair none of this would have been better if we just had default dropdowns. I think I've decided what we're going to do if anyone gets upset about seeing 4 and getting 2 sticks or vice versa, we can make it match the visualization precisely, no power cord, fans, or ethernet cable.
Not a validation issue, as intended. The user interface has nothing to do with background validations, as in you can't just trick it to give you infinite whatever either. There will be an inventory check at some point if I can get it working though, as mentioned.
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Ticket backlog so these were only checked to some degree and looked into further if an issue was identified. Your ticket indicated disk issue, control issue, or node issue, and none were confirmable based on that.
This should have been looked at sooner though, so you'll get SLA credit/extension. It's a SolusVM VNC bug. Turning off VNC and booting confirms this, but I've fixed it. Might have triggered after your most recent reinstall immediately followed by reconfigure. Credited.
@NodeSuper said: @VirMach My Japanese vps has been offline for many days. Please restore it to normal as soon as possible. Thank you. I sent you a work order but no one responded. Service Ticket Number#714106
Ticket backlog so these were only checked to some degree and looked into further if an issue was identified. Your ticket indicated disk issue, control issue, or node issue, and none were confirmable based on that.
This should have been looked at sooner though, so you'll get SLA credit/extension. It's a SolusVM VNC bug. Turning off VNC and booting confirms this, but I've fixed it. Might have triggered after your most recent reinstall immediately followed by reconfigure. Credited.
Thank you very much
I'll try reinstalling the system.
@VirMach automated installation fails when RAID configurations are involved. I tried both Proxmox and Debian (and probably CentOS) and they did not work. The system attempts to create two RAID devices when RAID1 is selected. The first one completes successfully but the second one fails. I believe it also fails with RAID10. I was able to install Debian by selecting “use the largest drive” and that worked. Anyway I do not want mdadm. I want Proxmox with ZFS 😭
Okay I remember, wow that was an awful idea on my part. Time to go figure out what was agreed, I vaguely remember it being like $300 a year or $500 per 2 years or something for some 2600 option, yeah. Okay give me a moment.
FWIW, I recall the second option being required as you, "didn't want to check every month to see if these one-off weirdos were cancelled." Not an exact quote but reasonably captures the spirit. ;-)
Okay I remember, wow that was an awful idea on my part. Time to go figure out what was agreed, I vaguely remember it being like $300 a year or $500 per 2 years or something for some 2600 option, yeah. Okay give me a moment.
FWIW, I recall the second option being required as you, "didn't want to check every month to see if these one-off weirdos were cancelled." Not an exact quote but reasonably captures the spirit. ;-)
These might get rolled into a different configuration since we're likely dumping the 2600, so if that happens you can get it monthly instead if preferred. You'll likely have to get it how I said annually/as it is technically if you want to continue with whatever we said as a "beta" pre-launch, otherwise if you wait until after it gets rolled into a base configuration, it means you'd have to get it monthly at whatever price it ends up being for everyone during the sale.
Hopefully that makes enough sense.
@imok said: @VirMach automated installation fails when RAID configurations are involved. I tried both Proxmox and Debian (and probably CentOS) and they did not work. The system attempts to create two RAID devices when RAID1 is selected. The first one completes successfully but the second one fails. I believe it also fails with RAID10. I was able to install Debian by selecting “use the largest drive” and that worked. Anyway I do not want mdadm. I want Proxmox with ZFS 😭
Well that's not good, you don't even have a controller so it should just work, as in we're not doing anything weird and their PXE profiles should be functional for it.
It might be because you have 2 NVMe and 4 HDDs though.
I'm doing spreadsheets to try to adjust pricing to see how I'd have to work in the coupon for the sale, and his is technically "valued" at $189 a month.
I'm going to have to change some things around and make it the math less logical so it works out better overall, otherwise all the 4TB NVMe configurations are just going to stay empty.
@Kris said:
Oh hell, I should have gotten a different Ryzen. Mine's still trying to find the rest of the RAM.
You originally had the 3500 too, I just worked in a 2600 because I remembered your comment saying it was better than the 3500.
@VirMach said: These might get rolled into a different configuration since we're likely dumping the 2600, so if that happens you can get it monthly instead if preferred. You'll likely have to get it how I said annually/as it is technically if you want to continue with whatever we said as a "beta" pre-launch, otherwise if you wait until after it gets rolled into a base configuration, it means you'd have to get it monthly at whatever price it ends up being for everyone during the sale.
Hopefully that makes enough sense.
To make sure we're on the same page:
Annually is fine/preferred. Biennial was sub-optimal but workable as I completely understand not wanting to have to watch over the potential one-off's.
I figured at the end of whatever term I chose not to renew I'd put a ticket in saying, "I'm not renewing [x]. It's one of the weird non-spec dedis so you have to decide if it should go out of service."
I'm fine with the 2600,3500, 3600, or the 5900X. Any work for me.
I'm all in for beta.
I feel like there was something else I wanted to put here when I started but I'm drawing a blank at now.
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That's some advanced stuff.
@VirMach so our servers have hardware RAID enabled? Because I will prefer to disable it, I've read ZFS and HW RAID is not recommended.
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Yeah, as soon as I figure out where to add them.
If I figure out how to modify the page I'll add in more options for cancelling the process.
You made so many jokes about dedicated servers for $6 a year or whatever than my brain doesn't remember if you actually wanted one anymore or not. @skorous is next in line but I have to check DM with him or wherever we communicated to see if I'm remembering correctly.
Adding it to my mental note to-do list to definitely figure out something that doesn't require people do all that manually, but huge thanks for sharing what you had to go through so everyone else doesn't have to go through it!
Yours doesn't have it per your request, it also wouldn't fit even if you wanted, next to your two massive NVMe 4TB disks.
Hopefully, you know how it is around here.
I don't remember talking about the order of delivery but I'm in line somewhere, yes. Though that's for a 2600 if that matters since an earlier comment talked about them possibly needing to be swapped out.
EDIT: I don't think we DM'ed anywhere. You wanted me to declare it publicly in the thread.
I've been wasting a lot of time on finishing up the configurator. I'm finally doing it how I've always wanted to do it, thanks to AI (it'd take way too long to figure out how to do it myself, but I'm getting the hang of it and reading through/fixing the base version.)
Remember, I said how I've always wanted to do it, that doesn't mean it'll be an enjoyable experience.
The last part which I may not get to is having it check against inventory and tell you if we have anything close in stock, or let you proceed as configured and potentially pay a setup fee for customization and confirm you want to wait a few days for the exact configuration you want instead. There's already some built in logic to give you something "close enough" to avoid all that where possible, aka, a free small upgrade. Use that information how you wish if you want to gamble. Not that any of this matters for the sale really, for that I need to figure out how to do the coupons which is probably going to be even more annoying.
I'm reworking pricing now for basically that reason although I have to stay realistic with it, that just means we might not hit the exact price points we want unless I build an entire custom coupon system for it.
Okay I remember, wow that was an awful idea on my part. Time to go figure out what was agreed, I vaguely remember it being like $300 a year or $500 per 2 years or something for some 2600 option, yeah. Okay give me a moment.
Yeah
I've always wanted one...
I can crank up more jokes 😃
Alright here's the configurator:
https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=269
I might have to end up giving up and create several different products but I generally don't like having a bunch of split up products especially for one type of server in one location. I'd tell you guys not to order, I doubt you will at the MSRP prices for no reason.
If you guys could take a look and let me know what's still bugged out with it that would be greatly appreciated.
Of course if you hate the way it's done, you can just click "Show Overview" and do it normally. For the configurator you'd use the usual buttons to zoom, pan, rotate. If anything breaks, check Chrome console and provide the debugging although it might be useless from how excessive the logs are right now. Mobile was a PITA to do, I've only gotten so far with that. And of course as I'm posting this I've already found a bug.. and fixed, I'm sure that didn't just break another part.
Current known bugs which I just also found and don't feel like fixing:
Genuinely still don't know what this means. At this point if you wanted one, private message me an explicit confirmation of what it was you wanted so I can actually get it to you.
This, is fancy stuff. Looks great. Sure some prices need to be fixed (like 3rd hot swapped hdd for 3tb is higher)
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Thanks this helps a lot I remembered there was a specific thing like that but couldn't find it and that's exactly what I was looking for, you saved me probably at least 15 minutes at my current pace.
@VirMach Looks sweet. I had an issue when I tapped somewhere on the page and it made iOS Chrome not be able to do anything, broke the page somehow. I was going to replicate it to share with you but I couldn't get it to happen again.. not sure what I did before.
Must have taken some time to make that.
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I see this fancy thing, but does it translate correctly to the RAM slot thing? Like you only have 8GB sticks and we can fight for dual/quad channel and you won't just put single 16GB stick? Like I know this is fancy, but people gonna be angry [up to chargeback] when they see 4 sticks on configurator and end with 2 in system.
also no validation - like I can get a system without any dicks plus what I am supposed to do here on mobile view?
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Needs some flashing stuff. This feels like those interfaces from CSI shows.
Mobile was mostly an afterthought after a friend me reminded me phones exist. Then it bothered me and I had to spend some time getting it to be usable. I couldn't get tapping to work well on it so I just soft "force" a guided walkthrough.
I assume it could be a lot worse on Android/Chrome since I only looked at Safari.
As it usually goes, the last few little minor things took an agonizingly long time.
See:
The empty 8GB was me making it worse.
Only 2x and 4x and the original plan was to have it show as such, which is why it got so broken. It did work at some point where it showed 1, 2, 3, 4. But I wanted it to be 2 and 4 only, then gave up and halfway mixed it up and yeah, we're at the worst possible version right now for it. But I did make the sticks look a little nicer.
This part wouldn't be possible to get accurate unless we do an inventory check before every change you make, as a joke I could enable "accuracy mode" once I get done with the other part of the project that does inventory checks, where you have to wait 30 seconds for each validation so it can display the number of sticks correctly.
So the goal was to have it show 2 sticks for 8GB, 16GB, and 4 sticks for 32GB, 64GB.
Disks are like that on purpose, one option used to be called "Any/None" but I might have just changed it to "None" and decided to show some type of message or modal about you getting whatever's available. I think it's because I thought "Any/None" would be even more confusing. But hey if people are upset this particular one doesn't match we can always remove their complimentary disk.
To be fair none of this would have been better if we just had default dropdowns. I think I've decided what we're going to do if anyone gets upset about seeing 4 and getting 2 sticks or vice versa, we can make it match the visualization precisely, no power cord, fans, or ethernet cable.
Not a validation issue, as intended. The user interface has nothing to do with background validations, as in you can't just trick it to give you infinite whatever either. There will be an inventory check at some point if I can get it working though, as mentioned.
Ticket backlog so these were only checked to some degree and looked into further if an issue was identified. Your ticket indicated disk issue, control issue, or node issue, and none were confirmable based on that.
This should have been looked at sooner though, so you'll get SLA credit/extension. It's a SolusVM VNC bug. Turning off VNC and booting confirms this, but I've fixed it. Might have triggered after your most recent reinstall immediately followed by reconfigure. Credited.
Thank you very much
I'll try reinstalling the system.
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@VirMach automated installation fails when RAID configurations are involved. I tried both Proxmox and Debian (and probably CentOS) and they did not work. The system attempts to create two RAID devices when RAID1 is selected. The first one completes successfully but the second one fails. I believe it also fails with RAID10. I was able to install Debian by selecting “use the largest drive” and that worked. Anyway I do not want mdadm. I want Proxmox with ZFS 😭
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Waiting for the ISO and the /29 😃
Oh hell, I should have gotten a different Ryzen.
Mine's still trying to find the rest of the RAM.
FWIW, I recall the second option being required as you, "didn't want to check every month to see if these one-off weirdos were cancelled." Not an exact quote but reasonably captures the spirit. ;-)
These might get rolled into a different configuration since we're likely dumping the 2600, so if that happens you can get it monthly instead if preferred. You'll likely have to get it how I said annually/as it is technically if you want to continue with whatever we said as a "beta" pre-launch, otherwise if you wait until after it gets rolled into a base configuration, it means you'd have to get it monthly at whatever price it ends up being for everyone during the sale.
Hopefully that makes enough sense.
Well that's not good, you don't even have a controller so it should just work, as in we're not doing anything weird and their PXE profiles should be functional for it.
It might be because you have 2 NVMe and 4 HDDs though.
I'm doing spreadsheets to try to adjust pricing to see how I'd have to work in the coupon for the sale, and his is technically "valued" at $189 a month.
I'm going to have to change some things around and make it the math less logical so it works out better overall, otherwise all the 4TB NVMe configurations are just going to stay empty.
You originally had the 3500 too, I just worked in a 2600 because I remembered your comment saying it was better than the 3500.
To make sure we're on the same page: