By the way let me know when I can perform power maintenance on your server. It has a long power cable and it's been bothering me. Actually I'll just schedule it and tag everyone, I think most of the servers in the first cabinet need to be tidied up.
At anytime. I'm still waiting for the IPs and I have not migrated my data.
Would anyone be interested in a virtual dedicated server, except with actual effort to make it more than just a VPS?
It would be somewhere around 1/4th of a dual E5, with either 88GB~ portion of RAID10 SSD or dedicated 180GB SSD if possible, 8 CPU threads split off to you exclusively as best as possible, a dedicated 1Gbps NIC if possible, 8TB* monthly data, 8GB RAM segmented off as best as possible, IPv4 NAT (or purchase an IPv4 optionally), IPv6**
And it’d cost about 1/4th the dedicated server, let’s say $8 a month or $88 a year sale price or wait maybe that’s every 2 years I don’t remember, yeah probably every 2 years.
Later on maybe other cool things or bad ideas such as making a system where the four people sharing the dedicated server can chat with each other and also vote to give someone access to IPMI and/or KVM during emergencies. Or being able to migrate onto a dedicated server with friends/leave bad neighbors. Or being able to purchase two for auto failover, and/or being able to also do that with a backup VPS on one of our VPS nodes.
*1/4th of 1/10th 1Gbps (324GB/10/4~)
**And before you focus on making fun of me for this…
@VirMach said:
Would anyone be interested in a virtual dedicated server, except with actual effort to make it more than just a VPS?
It would be somewhere around 1/4th of a dual E5, with either 88GB~ portion of RAID10 SSD or dedicated 180GB SSD if possible, 8 CPU threads split off to you exclusively as best as possible, a dedicated 1Gbps NIC if possible, 8TB* monthly data, 8GB RAM segmented off as best as possible, IPv4 NAT (or purchase an IPv4 optionally), IPv6**
And it’d cost about 1/4th the dedicated server, let’s say $8 a month or $88 a year sale price or wait maybe that’s every 2 years I don’t remember, yeah probably every 2 years.
Later on maybe other cool things or bad ideas such as making a system where the four people sharing the dedicated server can chat with each other and also vote to give someone access to IPMI and/or KVM during emergencies. Or being able to migrate onto a dedicated server with friends/leave bad neighbors. Or being able to purchase two for auto failover, and/or being able to also do that with a backup VPS on one of our VPS nodes.
Heads up, some cable changes, the KVM switch and power controls are going down soon. Not sure how they’ll react to it. This is just for controls, actual servers unaffected by this portion.
@Wonder_Woman tagging you specifically since you might be mid setup.
@imok@taizi might swap out your power cables afterward since you’re not actively using it, to get it out the way.
@localhost I’ll wait for a general confirmation from you but this needs a cable swap too. I guess need is a strong word it’s just bothering me from being too long and it’s a PITA to cable tie them I have to precision aim it and miss like 15 times each since I can’t get my fat fingers in the required area.
@Wonder_Woman oh yours as well you still have my long different colored cable from when I was pulling it out constantly I’ll wait for confirmation on yours and @localhost
I'm watching the Terminator saga, but I skipped the fourth one to remind myself it's okay not to be so strict and that it's all just for fun.
Am I doing it right?
In the same way I don't really have to install Enhance and migrate everything, I just need to find why Cloudpanel eats all the RAM and move the VMs instead.
2x that VDS sounds usable to me. I use my VDSes for video encoding at high settings, I need somewhere around 12-14GB of RAM and 120+GB space (input files run up to ~100GB).
@MallocVoidstar said:
2x that VDS sounds usable to me. I use my VDSes for video encoding at high settings, I need somewhere around 12-14GB of RAM and 120+GB space (input files run up to ~100GB).
It can even be 64GB or the entire dedicated server, it just can't be the same price then. I don't know how I feel about doing one where it's half a server I feel like that'd be an even more awkward sell.
Okay new idea, how about instead of splitting the dedicated server, we double it. You have to buy two instead of one, and it's double the price and two servers. Let me know if that's better.
@imok said:
I'm watching the Terminator saga, but I skipped the fourth one to remind myself it's okay not to be so strict and that it's all just for fun.
Am I doing it right?
In the same way I don't really have to install Enhance and migrate everything, I just need to find why Cloudpanel eats all the RAM and move the VMs instead.
For some reason I never really got into that. Or star wars.
@VirMach said: Would anyone be interested in a virtual dedicated server
Like the idea but needs to be Europe.
Don't like the idea of NAT (this is a VDS).
Bootable NVME and then larger HDD would be ideal.
Like Price (for two years).
@VirMach said: Would anyone be interested in a virtual dedicated server
Like the idea but needs to be Europe.
Don't like the idea of NAT (this is a VDS).
Bootable NVME and then larger HDD would be ideal.
Like Price (for two years).
In Europe I can do it for $720. That's the actual power cost difference. Plus like $100 setup fee.
EDIT-- okay technically power isn't the only thing and bandwidth/space is about the same. But power is the main thing for these servers. So probably closer to $500 instead of $88.
@VirMach said: In Europe I can do it for $720. That's the actual power cost difference. Plus like $100 setup fee.
EDIT-- okay technically power isn't the only thing and bandwidth/space is about the same. But power is the main thing for these servers. So probably closer to $500 instead of $88.
Wow - That is ludicrous, I am sure our energy is not ~ 6 x more expensive. Even so, I appreciate the offer and understand why the answer is NO to Europe
@VirMach said: In Europe I can do it for $720. That's the actual power cost difference. Plus like $100 setup fee.
EDIT-- okay technically power isn't the only thing and bandwidth/space is about the same. But power is the main thing for these servers. So probably closer to $500 instead of $88.
Wow - That is ludicrous, I am sure our energy is not ~ 6 x more expensive. Even so, I appreciate the offer and understand why the answer is NO to Europe
Each country probably does their own thing, as well as facility, and there are also probably different margins. I will say that in Europe, consumer electricity prices, are in more than one instance that I'm aware of, subsidized, and there is a surcharge for certain business uses. In Oklahoma, consumer electricity prices cost 2-3x industrial.
Last I checked, industrial electricity prices were $0.06/kWh here. I'm sure in Europe there are severe fluctuations, and they've probably calmed down by now, but the last surge made some datacenters raise prices in general to cover the uncertainty and when they raise it they don't typically drop it back down, somewhere around $0.35 to $0.40/kWh. What I can safely say though is there is no datacenter in Europe that I've seen over the last 5 years that is not at least 2-3x the cost of Oklahoma, best case scenario.
We definitely do need to do something about Europe though, I don't think I really got to focus much on the Amsterdam location on my last visit, it was mostly about moving everything over from Frankfurt. Maybe another visit and then it could be feasible to do some low power dedicated servers there.
@ricANNArdo said:
Seems like my server in LAXA019 is down per my uptime service.
Power supply failure. And unfortunately, after we were forced to move away from QuadraNet on short notice, we had to consolidate into one cabinet, which meant less room at the bottom of one for storing extra parts, and no replacement PSU immediately available.
I did want to spend more time on Los Angeles to tidy things up, the facility we're at right now is kind of in limbo since it was the first available one. There could potentially be another scheduled physical migration, and the facility also would not allow me to spend time there without charging datacenter hands rates so I had to cut things short. I'll try to prioritize making sure this location stays more reliable, as in we have spare parts/additional servers that are just available as drop-in replacements.
Emails are being sent out, ETA around Wednesday. I really tried sending it out today, I was at the datacenter for around 30 hours yesterday after being awake since Saturday morning, and I fell asleep before I heard back on how the shipment should be addressed so it doesn't get lost. That means it'll be overnighted tomorrow morning (or tonight, it's just past the cutoff time for next day air), and arrive Wednesday afternoon.
@go626201 said:
I feel like atleast 12gb ram for VDS is better,8g ram with dedicated 8c or 8t feel like no enough ram for modern usage.
It's just a 1/4th exact split of an existing configuration to try to hit a target price. We can likely do 16GB memory. I don't remember if it'll cost more, maybe a bit more.
@cybertech said:
Why give multiple IPs for BF VPS deals but NAT for VDS?
Extra IPv4 not possible by default for everyone due to limited quantities available in the specific block used for dedicated servers. This is a block we have on a 3-5 year lease with transit. Other blocks are month to month. I wanted to avoid lots of renumberings so dedicated servers are specifically going to use this block. We could add another block for these specifically, but then I'd still have to charge for it so it does increase the cost by around 10% still. Right now an extra IP would be optional. Well actually right now this is just an idea and based on the feedback I received, I probably won't do it.
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At anytime. I'm still waiting for the IPs and I have not migrated my data.
Ooo, exciting! Looks like my server was provisioned... And now suspended 😞
The system is maintained through the imposition of tallage, access is contingent upon its remittance. The grace allotted hath lapsed.
Are you calling Wonder Woman a deadbeat? How the mighty have fallen.....
That was fast! Stop abusing!1oneoneO!neoneone!
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
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You guys are great, lol
Would anyone be interested in a virtual dedicated server, except with actual effort to make it more than just a VPS?
It would be somewhere around 1/4th of a dual E5, with either 88GB~ portion of RAID10 SSD or dedicated 180GB SSD if possible, 8 CPU threads split off to you exclusively as best as possible, a dedicated 1Gbps NIC if possible, 8TB* monthly data, 8GB RAM segmented off as best as possible, IPv4 NAT (or purchase an IPv4 optionally), IPv6**
And it’d cost about 1/4th the dedicated server, let’s say $8 a month or $88 a year sale price or wait maybe that’s every 2 years I don’t remember, yeah probably every 2 years.
Later on maybe other cool things or bad ideas such as making a system where the four people sharing the dedicated server can chat with each other and also vote to give someone access to IPMI and/or KVM during emergencies. Or being able to migrate onto a dedicated server with friends/leave bad neighbors. Or being able to purchase two for auto failover, and/or being able to also do that with a backup VPS on one of our VPS nodes.
*1/4th of 1/10th 1Gbps (324GB/10/4~)
**And before you focus on making fun of me for this…
8gb ram with dedicated cpu resource - feel like abit low/less for me.
MY/SG & Worldwide Latency Test V3 : http://www.mywebping.com (27 February 2021 Updated)
MY-Unifi Home SmokePing: http://smokeping.mywebping.com/smokeping/
For a VDS, I expect at least 32GB RAM
for $8 I would like 1000gb raid10 with 99.99% uptime
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
in Europe. Yes.
Seems like my server in LAXA019 is down per my uptime service.
You probably saw me somewhere...
Confirmed, hands request put in. Server is not responding at all.
Heads up, some cable changes, the KVM switch and power controls are going down soon. Not sure how they’ll react to it. This is just for controls, actual servers unaffected by this portion.
@Wonder_Woman tagging you specifically since you might be mid setup.
@imok @taizi might swap out your power cables afterward since you’re not actively using it, to get it out the way.
@localhost I’ll wait for a general confirmation from you but this needs a cable swap too. I guess need is a strong word it’s just bothering me from being too long and it’s a PITA to cable tie them I have to precision aim it and miss like 15 times each since I can’t get my fat fingers in the required area.
@Wonder_Woman oh yours as well you still have my long different colored cable from when I was pulling it out constantly I’ll wait for confirmation on yours and @localhost
Everyone else is safe. For now. Maybe.
@VirMach - Thanks for the heads up, you can take mine down whenever you're ready
I'm watching the Terminator saga, but I skipped the fourth one to remind myself it's okay not to be so strict and that it's all just for fun.
Am I doing it right?
In the same way I don't really have to install Enhance and migrate everything, I just need to find why Cloudpanel eats all the RAM and move the VMs instead.
Fuck this shit I'm also skipping the fifth movie.
Edit: why the fuck the Terminator is Mexican in the last one
2x that VDS sounds usable to me. I use my VDSes for video encoding at high settings, I need somewhere around 12-14GB of RAM and 120+GB space (input files run up to ~100GB).
It can even be 64GB or the entire dedicated server, it just can't be the same price then. I don't know how I feel about doing one where it's half a server I feel like that'd be an even more awkward sell.
Okay new idea, how about instead of splitting the dedicated server, we double it. You have to buy two instead of one, and it's double the price and two servers. Let me know if that's better.
For some reason I never really got into that. Or star wars.
I'm not into Star Wars... or The Lord of the Rings either. Or Harry Potter.
@virmach is the SSD32G a thing yet?
Like the idea but needs to be Europe.
Don't like the idea of NAT (this is a VDS).
Bootable NVME and then larger HDD would be ideal.
Like Price (for two years).
That was many soons ago, I don't know what we're doing anymore.
In Europe I can do it for $720. That's the actual power cost difference. Plus like $100 setup fee.
EDIT-- okay technically power isn't the only thing and bandwidth/space is about the same. But power is the main thing for these servers. So probably closer to $500 instead of $88.
Why give multiple IPs for BF VPS deals but NAT for VDS?
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
wait,how can I "use" my power cables "actively"? can I go to datecenter and this the cable to charge my phone?🧐
I feel like atleast 12gb ram for VDS is better,8g ram with dedicated 8c or 8t feel like no enough ram for modern usage.
MY/SG & Worldwide Latency Test V3 : http://www.mywebping.com (27 February 2021 Updated)
MY-Unifi Home SmokePing: http://smokeping.mywebping.com/smokeping/
Wow - That is ludicrous, I am sure our energy is not ~ 6 x more expensive. Even so, I appreciate the offer and understand why the answer is NO to Europe
Each country probably does their own thing, as well as facility, and there are also probably different margins. I will say that in Europe, consumer electricity prices, are in more than one instance that I'm aware of, subsidized, and there is a surcharge for certain business uses. In Oklahoma, consumer electricity prices cost 2-3x industrial.
Last I checked, industrial electricity prices were $0.06/kWh here. I'm sure in Europe there are severe fluctuations, and they've probably calmed down by now, but the last surge made some datacenters raise prices in general to cover the uncertainty and when they raise it they don't typically drop it back down, somewhere around $0.35 to $0.40/kWh. What I can safely say though is there is no datacenter in Europe that I've seen over the last 5 years that is not at least 2-3x the cost of Oklahoma, best case scenario.
We definitely do need to do something about Europe though, I don't think I really got to focus much on the Amsterdam location on my last visit, it was mostly about moving everything over from Frankfurt. Maybe another visit and then it could be feasible to do some low power dedicated servers there.
Power supply failure. And unfortunately, after we were forced to move away from QuadraNet on short notice, we had to consolidate into one cabinet, which meant less room at the bottom of one for storing extra parts, and no replacement PSU immediately available.
I did want to spend more time on Los Angeles to tidy things up, the facility we're at right now is kind of in limbo since it was the first available one. There could potentially be another scheduled physical migration, and the facility also would not allow me to spend time there without charging datacenter hands rates so I had to cut things short. I'll try to prioritize making sure this location stays more reliable, as in we have spare parts/additional servers that are just available as drop-in replacements.
Emails are being sent out, ETA around Wednesday. I really tried sending it out today, I was at the datacenter for around 30 hours yesterday after being awake since Saturday morning, and I fell asleep before I heard back on how the shipment should be addressed so it doesn't get lost. That means it'll be overnighted tomorrow morning (or tonight, it's just past the cutoff time for next day air), and arrive Wednesday afternoon.
It's just a 1/4th exact split of an existing configuration to try to hit a target price. We can likely do 16GB memory. I don't remember if it'll cost more, maybe a bit more.
Extra IPv4 not possible by default for everyone due to limited quantities available in the specific block used for dedicated servers. This is a block we have on a 3-5 year lease with transit. Other blocks are month to month. I wanted to avoid lots of renumberings so dedicated servers are specifically going to use this block. We could add another block for these specifically, but then I'd still have to charge for it so it does increase the cost by around 10% still. Right now an extra IP would be optional. Well actually right now this is just an idea and based on the feedback I received, I probably won't do it.