ZAP-Hosting Lifetime Servers - Discussion, Updates

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  • @zgato said:
    Just received this, check your emails people

    I have also received it. As in my previous updates, 2+ years in, the lifetime root server has been the perfect self-hosting lab machine for me.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai
    edited July 20

    @sgheghele said:

    @zgato said:
    Just received this, check your emails people

    I have also received it. As in my previous updates, 2+ years in, the lifetime root server has been the perfect self-hosting lab machine for me.

    Unfortunately, didn't receive an upgrade notice (yet) for my rootserver, but I guess it's only the German LXC servers that get upgraded as they had no fixed cpu when ordering. My lxc is in Finland though :S

    But happy for you guys @zgato @sgheghele :) The lifetime vps have been great value for me so far, too :D

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  • I got the same email this morning about my lifetime LXC VPS in the US!

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  • @zgato said:
    Just received this, check your emails people

    Yep mee too.
    One of the reasons for getting vServer instead of root server was that vServer is not tied to particular hardware. Over lifetime provider needs to updgrade the hardware and vServer will ride on it.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai

    @mee2 said:

    @zgato said:
    Just received this, check your emails people

    Yep mee too.
    One of the reasons for getting vServer instead of root server was that vServer is not tied to particular hardware. Over lifetime provider needs to updgrade the hardware and vServer will ride on it.

    Yup, that was also one of my reasons for LXC. But also got a KVM. New vps I buy will be lxc (or the equivalent with no fixed cpu, since all vps now will be kvm apparently).

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  • @zgato said:
    Just received this, check your emails people

    Got the same email this morning! Looks like my Finland LXC will be getting a nice boost.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai
    edited July 20

    Maybe I'll add another vps on Black Friday Sale to the collection :D
    After two years, my lxc now is at like 1,45€ish/mo (70€/48) and my KVM/Rootserver at 3,10€ish/mo (150€/48). Gets cheaper by the month. ROI is good on these vps :tongue:

  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai
    edited July 21

    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

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  • @Ympker said:
    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

    Reinstalling LXC converts it to KVM?

    Ballooning basically shares your VM RAM with the host node, and thus, can be used by other VMs too. I can see a good intention (considering KVM usually has a big overhead over the max RAM you assign the VM) but can be used for mass overselling, and they could very well be using swap for very high load situations where they really oversold a lot while they balance between nodes.
    I don't know, up to you to trust them or not. I personally fought to have that option and well, they seem to have added it, so I personally kept ballooning enabled since I don't mind my idlers giving some RAM to other VMs :joy:

  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai
    edited July 21

    @zgato said:

    @Ympker said:
    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

    Reinstalling LXC converts it to KVM?

    Apparently so (when reinstalling it showed "migrating to KVM" in the progress bar):

    Still waiting though:

    Ballooning basically shares your VM RAM with the host node, and thus, can be used by other VMs too. I can see a good intention (considering KVM usually has a big overhead over the max RAM you assign the VM) but can be used for mass overselling, and they could very well be using swap for very high load situations where they really oversold a lot while they balance between nodes.
    I don't know, up to you to trust them or not. I personally fought to have that option and well, they seem to have added it, so I personally kept ballooning enabled since I don't mind my idlers giving some RAM to other VMs :joy:

    Ah, thanks for the info :D Will enable it, too. Got some idlers :D

    FYI: Seems like locations now also have different DDoS Protection:

  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai

    Sooo, my (former) lxc vps got stuck during the migration/reinstall process to Ubuntu 24. Tried reinstalling various times before popping a ticket. That said, the support installed the VPS for me within a couple of hours, so props again to the quick and helpful support team, who are really fast and always happy to help. For a lifetime product that's awesome to see :)

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  • edited July 22

    @Ympker said:
    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

    I think they did some housekeeping changes to prepare for the migration, even though their webpage still lists v2 Xeons as vCPU for selection.

    Regarding the DDoS protection, it has indeed changed to a different provider. They've been doing tests in the last few weeks.

    In my case, it has proven to be problematic with Wireguard and Geneve tunnels. They had to whitelist the endpoint IP for me. In any case, support has always been helpful and professional, so props for that.

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  • @rubenmdh said:

    @Ympker said:
    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

    I think they did some housekeeping changes to prepare for the migration, even though their webpage still lists v2 Xeons as vCPU for selection.

    Regarding the DDoS protection, it has indeed changed to a different provider. They've been doing tests in the last few weeks.

    In my case, it has proven to be problematic with Wireguard and Geneve tunnels. They had to whitelist the endpoint IP for me. In any case, support has always been helpful and professional, so props for that.

    --

    As a side note, I just spinned up a new LXC instance and it was deployed on KVM, but still rocking a E5-2680 v4. Guess I am not lucky :(

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai

    @rubenmdh said:

    @rubenmdh said:

    @Ympker said:
    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

    I think they did some housekeeping changes to prepare for the migration, even though their webpage still lists v2 Xeons as vCPU for selection.

    Regarding the DDoS protection, it has indeed changed to a different provider. They've been doing tests in the last few weeks.

    In my case, it has proven to be problematic with Wireguard and Geneve tunnels. They had to whitelist the endpoint IP for me. In any case, support has always been helpful and professional, so props for that.

    --

    As a side note, I just spinned up a new LXC instance and it was deployed on KVM, but still rocking a E5-2680 v4. Guess I am not lucky :(

    But it has the chance to get a newer cpu model, because unlike the the kvm products it hasn't a specific cpu in the description that is assigned to it.

  • @rubenmdh said:

    @rubenmdh said:

    @Ympker said:
    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

    I think they did some housekeeping changes to prepare for the migration, even though their webpage still lists v2 Xeons as vCPU for selection.

    Regarding the DDoS protection, it has indeed changed to a different provider. They've been doing tests in the last few weeks.

    In my case, it has proven to be problematic with Wireguard and Geneve tunnels. They had to whitelist the endpoint IP for me. In any case, support has always been helpful and professional, so props for that.

    --

    As a side note, I just spinned up a new LXC instance and it was deployed on KVM, but still rocking a E5-2680 v4. Guess I am not lucky :(

    Same here. Still on xeon. Though I got email specifically saying that vps will be upgraded to epyc. So will happen sometime I expect.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai

    @mee2 said:

    @rubenmdh said:

    @rubenmdh said:

    @Ympker said:
    Lol, just when I wanted to reinstall my LXC vps to get KVM.
    Did you guys enable Ballooning? What is it again?

    I think they did some housekeeping changes to prepare for the migration, even though their webpage still lists v2 Xeons as vCPU for selection.

    Regarding the DDoS protection, it has indeed changed to a different provider. They've been doing tests in the last few weeks.

    In my case, it has proven to be problematic with Wireguard and Geneve tunnels. They had to whitelist the endpoint IP for me. In any case, support has always been helpful and professional, so props for that.

    --

    As a side note, I just spinned up a new LXC instance and it was deployed on KVM, but still rocking a E5-2680 v4. Guess I am not lucky :(

    Same here. Still on xeon. Though I got email specifically saying that vps will be upgraded to epyc. So will happen sometime I expect.

    To be honest it's pretty awesome that our lifetime vps will get new hw (eventually) free of charge. I can wait a bit :P

  • I know am late to the discussion, but thought I'll join the party anyways.

    My lifetime VPS was moved to the AMD one on 15th July. And couple of days later it was moved to KVM. Disk performance is still the same, nothing impressive. But pretty happy with the free upgrade. It was idling for all these years... I may now put it to some use. 🙂

    My US rootserver is still on the older intel xeon stack.

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  • Got an email that my vps will be migrated to epyc today. Still waiting to happen ...

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  • edited July 29

    @mee2 said:
    Got an email that my vps will be migrated to epyc today. Still waiting to happen ...

    I got it a few days ago and still not a single VM migrated :(

    Will ticket to ask I guess.

    Nevermind, a random box I had with zap credits got the upgrade, i'm so sad :(
    AMD EPYC 7763

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  • edited July 29

    YABS of the VM (forgot to post)

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    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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    Tue Jul 29 11:02:02 AM EDT 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 2449.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 4.8 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 24.5 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-37-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : ZAP-Hosting GmbH
    ASN        : AS206996 ZAP-Hosting GmbH
    Host       : Dezaphosting003
    Location   : Münster, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 33.16 MB/s    (8.2k) | 308.45 MB/s   (4.8k)
    Write      | 33.22 MB/s    (8.3k) | 310.08 MB/s   (4.8k)
    Total      | 66.39 MB/s   (16.5k) | 618.53 MB/s   (9.6k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 296.45 MB/s    (579) | 292.06 MB/s    (285)
    Write      | 312.20 MB/s    (609) | 311.51 MB/s    (304)
    Total      | 608.66 MB/s   (1.1k) | 603.58 MB/s    (589)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | 470 Mbits/sec   | 14.1 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 521 Mbits/sec   | busy            | --
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 377 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 95.3 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 252 Mbits/sec   | 396 Mbits/sec   | 162 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | busy            | 405 Mbits/sec   | 148 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 349 Mbits/sec   | 449 Mbits/sec   | 79.4 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 142 Mbits/sec   | 400 Mbits/sec   | 223 ms
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 967
    Multi Core      | 1776
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/23696576
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1248
    Multi Core      | 2200
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/13080360
    
    YABS completed in 15 min 16 sec
    
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  • @mee2 said:
    Got an email that my vps will be migrated to epyc today. Still waiting to happen ...

    Have got it upgraded now.

    model name : AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core

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  • Brief outage due to switch malfunction.
    You can redeem a 10€ voucher for the next 48 hours:
    sorry-for-that-egh

  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai

    @rubenmdh said:
    Brief outage due to switch malfunction.
    You can redeem a 10€ voucher for the next 48 hours:
    sorry-for-that-egh

    Thanks! Redeemed it :)

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  • Moar money, 10€ voucher for the next 48 hours:

    NETWORK0725

    I don't know if they invalidated the previous one. This one was sent within the explanation email.

  • edited August 20

    According to zap discord there was a screenshot posted about about rental and lifetime dedicated server getting amd options.

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  • I'm still waiting for mine to be upgraded to EPYC...

    I must still be "in the coming days" almost a month later ;)

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I'm still waiting for mine to be upgraded to EPYC...

    I must still be "in the coming days" almost a month later ;)

    Same here :S

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  • I thought I had bought one of these two years ago ...I guess not. I am looking now at the baseline Helsinki offer at 86.90euros currently. Does anyone know if they would care if one shared private Linux ISOs (or at least reverse-proxied that traffic through that VPS)?

  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent WriterSenpai

    @hornet said:
    I thought I had bought one of these two years ago ...I guess not. I am looking now at the baseline Helsinki offer at 86.90euros currently. Does anyone know if they would care if one shared private Linux ISOs (or at least reverse-proxied that traffic through that VPS)?

    A German Provider might not be the best choice for private linux isos. That said, if they are encrypted and remain on your server, I guess they might be your private backups.

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