AWS Down

AlwaysSkint · October 20

Hurrah! That's about 20% of the World's hackers/crackers/scanners/spammers out of action.
To the legit businesses that use AWS, it serves them right for effectively sponsoring the nefarious activities that abound on AWS. It hammers home that providers don't enforce terms and conditions, when it comes to network activity.
Long may it last!

Now, can the same happen for Hetzner et al - one can only hope?

/rant

somik · October 20

Didn't realize AWS was down... Don't use any sites or any service that uses AWS apparently....

havoc · October 20

Signal zoom and docker affected. Plus probably billion other things

AlwaysSkint · October 20

The so-called professionals that decided to outsource banking apps onto the same platform/infrastructure as frivolous crap, should be held to account, if nothing else. The perils of cost cutting etc.

BBC curated list

Snapchat
Zoom
Roblox
Clash Royale
My Fitness Pal
Life360
Clash of Clans
Fortnite
Canva
Wordle
Signal
Coinbase
Duolingo
Slack
Smartsheet
PokemonGo
Epic Games
PlayStation Network
Peloton
Rocket League… the list goes on and on

Along with a few banks and the UK's HMRC, FFS!

vyas · October 20

Is Netflix and amazon Prime also down ? :-)

Musk Man happily promoting X chat as “alternative to Signal”

somik · October 20

@vyas said:
Is Netflix and amazon Prime also down ? :-)

Musk Man happily promoting X chat as “alternative to Signal”

Kids, dont be like those crazy people!

bikegremlin · October 20

@AlwaysSkint said:
Now, can the same happen for Hetzner et al - one can only hope?

/rant

You wish to destroy the entire Balkan?!?!

MannDude · October 20

My roomba wouldn't clean, and my smart thermostat was stuck on "NWO mode" (whatever that is) and kept my house at 80f. Even worse, my smart car was stuck and wouldn't drive because it couldn't sync to the update server.

/s

bozolover99 · October 20

who would use such an expensive and slow service?

MikeA · October 20

@bozolover99 said:
who would use such an expensive and slow service?

Usually companies that have blog posts like "We've just secured $50 million in VC funding!"

MikeA · October 20

@MannDude said:
My roomba wouldn't clean, and my smart thermostat was stuck on "NWO mode" (whatever that is) and kept my house at 80f. Even worse, my smart car was stuck and wouldn't drive because it couldn't sync to the update server.

/s

My camera-assisted bidet couldn't spray my ass because it couldn't use the cloud to confirm it had an accurate target lock.

AlwaysSkint · October 20

I'm noticing spam from firebaseapp, so looks like these guys (Google Cloud?) need to be nuked too. Grr.
(MXRoute doesn't automatically flag 'em as spam but does with my cron task notifications - go figure.)

vyas · October 20

( @MikeA summed it up well ! )

@bozolover99 said:
who would use such an expensive and slow service?

bozolover99 · October 21

I'm glad I'm still old school and no IOT devices, I don't need AI watching me even though I swear the wifes alexa in the kitchen is keeping an eye on me, I just say "alexa shut up" when it randomly starts talking...

somik · October 21

@bozolover99 said:
I'm glad I'm still old school and no IOT devices, I don't need AI watching me even though I swear the wifes alexa in the kitchen is keeping an eye on me, I just say "alexa shut up" when it randomly starts talking...

So you keep a AWS IoT device that records all you conversations and sends it to third party vendors for quality audit and still call yourself "old school"? And calling it "wife's" isn't gonna help your case here.

vyas · October 23

(Pc magazine)

Ps:
Apparently not just beds… some special toys too got stuck

WSS · October 23

lol

AuroraZero · October 23

God damn people are stupid. The amount of IOT crap is insane and so are the people that use it.

vish · October 23

@bozolover99 said:
I'm glad I'm still old school and no IOT devices, I don't need AI watching me even though I swear the wifes alexa in the kitchen is keeping an eye on me, I just say "alexa shut up" when it randomly starts talking...

somik · October 24

@AuroraZero said:
God damn people are stupid. The amount of IOT crap is insane and so are the people that use it.

I don’t really have an issue with IoT devices as long as they work fully locally and have a failsafe mode to run completely offline.

Both my LG dishwasher and Samsung washing machine do exactly that. They’re "smart" enough to let me set washing profiles, get notifications when a cycle’s done, or when something needs attention (like high load, empty detergent, or drum cleaning reminders). But if the internet goes down, everything still works perfectly. The profiles are stored locally, the dials still let you choose them, and the messages show right on the display. That’s the kind of IoT I actually like. Smart, but not needy.

Now, if a device stops working just because some random server on the other side of the planet goes offline or the company decides it’s "end-of-life"? That’s not smart tech — that’s tech made for dumb people.

AuroraZero · October 24

@somik said:

@AuroraZero said:
God damn people are stupid. The amount of IOT crap is insane and so are the people that use it.

I don’t really have an issue with IoT devices as long as they work fully locally and have a failsafe mode to run completely offline.

Both my LG dishwasher and Samsung washing machine do exactly that. They’re "smart" enough to let me set washing profiles, get notifications when a cycle’s done, or when something needs attention (like high load, empty detergent, or drum cleaning reminders). But if the internet goes down, everything still works perfectly. The profiles are stored locally, the dials still let you choose them, and the messages show right on the display. That’s the kind of IoT I actually like. Smart, but not needy.

Now, if a device stops working just because some random server on the other side of the planet goes offline or the company decides it’s "end-of-life"? That’s not smart tech — that’s tech made for dumb people.

If they have an offline mode its IOT anymore. They are made for people that think that craps cool until it breaks and believe me they WILL break.

somik · October 24

@AuroraZero said:

@somik said:

@AuroraZero said:
God damn people are stupid. The amount of IOT crap is insane and so are the people that use it.

I don’t really have an issue with IoT devices as long as they work fully locally and have a failsafe mode to run completely offline.

Both my LG dishwasher and Samsung washing machine do exactly that. They’re "smart" enough to let me set washing profiles, get notifications when a cycle’s done, or when something needs attention (like high load, empty detergent, or drum cleaning reminders). But if the internet goes down, everything still works perfectly. The profiles are stored locally, the dials still let you choose them, and the messages show right on the display. That’s the kind of IoT I actually like. Smart, but not needy.

Now, if a device stops working just because some random server on the other side of the planet goes offline or the company decides it’s "end-of-life"? That’s not smart tech — that’s tech made for dumb people.

If they have an offline mode its IOT anymore. They are made for people that think that craps cool until it breaks and believe me they WILL break.

If it’s a fully online device, it’s only as good as the server it depends on. The moment the company goes bankrupt or decides it’s “no longer supported,” your fancy smart gadget becomes a very expensive paperweight.

Most of these companies love throwing everything onto AWS because, you know, “CLOUD!” Management loves the buzzword. You know what they don’t love? The bill. And when that bill gets too high, guess what goes first? Yep, the server your device relies on. If it’s not making money, it’s getting shut down.

And since many IoT companies don’t bother adding a proper subscription model, the whole thing is basically guaranteed to die in a few years (if not the first year).

That’s why I avoid any "cloud-connected" or "always-online" junk. If it can’t function without the internet, it’s not smart. It’s just waiting for its funeral.

AuroraZero · October 24

@somik said:

@AuroraZero said:

@somik said:

@AuroraZero said:
God damn people are stupid. The amount of IOT crap is insane and so are the people that use it.

I don’t really have an issue with IoT devices as long as they work fully locally and have a failsafe mode to run completely offline.

Both my LG dishwasher and Samsung washing machine do exactly that. They’re "smart" enough to let me set washing profiles, get notifications when a cycle’s done, or when something needs attention (like high load, empty detergent, or drum cleaning reminders). But if the internet goes down, everything still works perfectly. The profiles are stored locally, the dials still let you choose them, and the messages show right on the display. That’s the kind of IoT I actually like. Smart, but not needy.

Now, if a device stops working just because some random server on the other side of the planet goes offline or the company decides it’s "end-of-life"? That’s not smart tech — that’s tech made for dumb people.

If they have an offline mode its IOT anymore. They are made for people that think that craps cool until it breaks and believe me they WILL break.

If it’s a fully online device, it’s only as good as the server it depends on. The moment the company goes bankrupt or decides it’s “no longer supported,” your fancy smart gadget becomes a very expensive paperweight.

Most of these companies love throwing everything onto AWS because, you know, “CLOUD!” Management loves the buzzword. You know what they don’t love? The bill. And when that bill gets too high, guess what goes first? Yep, the server your device relies on. If it’s not making money, it’s getting shut down.

And since many IoT companies don’t bother adding a proper subscription model, the whole thing is basically guaranteed to die in a few years (if not the first year).

That’s why I avoid any "cloud-connected" or "always-online" junk. If it can’t function without the internet, it’s not smart. It’s just waiting for its funeral.

Exactly and I hate Alexa and Google and what the hell ever controlled crap. Waiting for the day something big goes wrong and entire apartment complex burns down cause Alexa thought the oven at 500 degrees for six hours was a good idea.

AlwaysSkint · October 24

@somik said: If it’s a fully online device, it’s only as good as the server it depends on. The moment the company goes bankrupt or decides it’s “no longer supported,” your fancy smart gadget becomes a very expensive paperweight.

Logitech Harmony remote controls!
The b'stards haven't even made the device database open source.

vyas · October 24

My robotic mop a a la roomba…
Has an app apparently to map out my apartment/ then run in auto mode. But the app sends data to Chinese servers. I haven’t used it in the past ~3 years of using the robotic cleaner…

Don’t understand logic of relying on Internet for mopping. Where the data goes is secondary

somik · October 24

@AuroraZero said:
Exactly and I hate Alexa and Google and what the hell ever controlled crap. Waiting for the day something big goes wrong and entire apartment complex burns down cause Alexa thought the oven at 500 degrees for six hours was a good idea.

Alexa never "thinks". AI do not "think", they take input, processes it through their neural network and outputs whatever makes logical sense to it based on it's training data. And just like programs, if it encounters a case it cant make sense of, it'll output garbage...

@AlwaysSkint said:

@somik said: If it’s a fully online device, it’s only as good as the server it depends on. The moment the company goes bankrupt or decides it’s “no longer supported,” your fancy smart gadget becomes a very expensive paperweight.

Logitech Harmony remote controls!
The b'stards haven't even made the device database open source.

I am just waiting for the new logitech subscription mouse that logitech CEO spoke about. Then I can finally abandon all my logitech peripherals and move to DIY solutions...

@vyas said:
My robotic mop a a la roomba…
Has an app apparently to map out my apartment/ then run in auto mode. But the app sends data to Chinese servers. I haven’t used it in the past ~3 years of using the robotic cleaner…

Don’t understand logic of relying on Internet for mopping. Where the data goes is secondary

They use their servers to process and optimize the routing. Cheaper then doing it locally as they can shove cheapest controllers in the robotic vacuum/mop. It works fine unoptimized so ignore it.

AlwaysSkint · October 24

@somik said: Cheaper then THAN doing it ..

FFS!

somik · October 24

@AlwaysSkint said:

@somik said: Cheaper then THAN doing it ..

FFS!

@AlwaysSkint's face when reading my posts:

AlwaysSkint · October 24

^ Correct. That is why my hair is 90% grey.

WSS · October 24

There's a difference between someone who is a technology enthusiast, and someone who realizes just how hokey the entire damn thing is since it's farmed out to the cheapest (and often worst) coders.

I wouldn't have Internet at home anymore, but you can only watch so many DVDs when snowed in. I broke down and got Based AI Raped Will Stancil service because it was offered at roughly what I was paying for 4G service.

Weird to be able to stream high quality videos- since the last time I actually cared, everything has ads- Prime, Hulu, etc. So I can do without. At least my system updates don't take hours aymore.

AuroraZero · October 24

@somik said: Alexa never "thinks". AI do not "think", they take input, processes it through their neural network and outputs whatever makes logical sense to it based on it's training data. And just like programs, if it encounters a case it cant make sense of, it'll output garbage...

I knwo it does not think meant to have quotes around. They are dumber than shit because on the general note people are dumb as shit.

@WSS said: There's a difference between someone who is a technology enthusiast, and someone who realizes just how hokey the entire damn thing is since it's farmed out to the cheapest (and often worst) coders.

I wouldn't have Internet at home anymore, but you can only watch so many DVDs when snowed in. I broke down and got Based AI Raped Will Stancil service because it was offered at roughly what I was paying for 4G service.

Weird to be able to stream high quality videos- since the last time I actually cared, everything has ads- Prime, Hulu, etc. So I can do without. At least my system updates don't take hours aymore.

Agreed if I did not do things online or could get more channels other than news ones I would not even have internet either. None of what they are doing is "new" it is all rehashed from things we did as kids. I call the new "AI" a glorified AIM chatbot and it is not far off.

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