I bought Divi years ago, didn't regret it so far. I haven't used it in a while either. Divi was getting slower with the feature load added, but Divi 5 is supposed to be a re-work of it being more snappy. Can't really go wrong with getting it if you might have a use case for it at all imho. There are ups and downs, but I've been happy overall.
If Generatepress lifetime were still available, I would say buy that (I bought it) without a second thought.
Now since GP is supscription only, I'm not 100% sure.
Divi, last time I checked, leaves a bunch of ugly Divi shortcodes when you disable it (if you ever decide to switch to a different theme or page builder). That's a downside IMO.
Edit:
Hope someone will correct me if Divi too has switched to Gutenberg blocks (like Generatepress).
@bikegremlin said:
If Generatepress lifetime were still available, I would say buy that (I bought it) without a second thought.
Now since GP is supscription only, I'm not 100% sure.
If I could recommend another lifetime (on sale) it would be LiveCanvas for some snappy bootstrap based WP website that can be exported as plain html: https://livecanvas.com/
Divi, last time I checked, leaves a bunch of ugly Divi shortcodes when you disable it (if you ever decide to switch to a different theme or page builder). That's a downside IMO.
I could be wrong, but iirc Divi 5 supposedly does away with the Divi shortcodes.
Edit:
Hope someone will correct me if Divi too has switched to Gutenberg blocks (like Generatepress).
@bikegremlin said:
If Generatepress lifetime were still available, I would say buy that (I bought it) without a second thought.
Now since GP is supscription only, I'm not 100% sure.
If I could recommend another lifetime (on sale) it would be LiveCanvas for some snappy bootstrap based WP website that can be exported as plain html: https://livecanvas.com/
That looks very interesting.
I just sent an email asking if they'd be willing to donate a lifetime subscription in return for testing and publishing articles of the installation, workflow, metrics etc.
Doesn't hurt to ask - and considering the amount of time and effort it would take, I think it's more than fair
Divi, last time I checked, leaves a bunch of ugly Divi shortcodes when you disable it (if you ever decide to switch to a different theme or page builder). That's a downside IMO.
I could be wrong, but iirc Divi 5 supposedly does away with the Divi shortcodes.
Edit:
Hope someone will correct me if Divi too has switched to Gutenberg blocks (like Generatepress).
I should get down to testing the latest Divi now in that case - unless you have a site running it already to confirm.
@bikegremlin said:
If Generatepress lifetime were still available, I would say buy that (I bought it) without a second thought.
Now since GP is supscription only, I'm not 100% sure.
If I could recommend another lifetime (on sale) it would be LiveCanvas for some snappy bootstrap based WP website that can be exported as plain html: https://livecanvas.com/
That looks very interesting.
I just sent an email asking if they'd be willing to donate a lifetime subscription in return for testing and publishing articles of the installation, workflow, metrics etc.
Doesn't hurt to ask - and considering the amount of time and effort it would take, I think it's more than fair
If you write an article, tag me
It's awesome.
Divi, last time I checked, leaves a bunch of ugly Divi shortcodes when you disable it (if you ever decide to switch to a different theme or page builder). That's a downside IMO.
I could be wrong, but iirc Divi 5 supposedly does away with the Divi shortcodes.
Edit:
Hope someone will correct me if Divi too has switched to Gutenberg blocks (like Generatepress).
I should get down to testing the latest Divi now in that case - unless you have a site running it already to confirm.
@bikegremlin said:
If Generatepress lifetime were still available, I would say buy that (I bought it) without a second thought.
Now since GP is supscription only, I'm not 100% sure.
If I could recommend another lifetime (on sale) it would be LiveCanvas for some snappy bootstrap based WP website that can be exported as plain html: https://livecanvas.com/
That looks very interesting.
I just sent an email asking if they'd be willing to donate a lifetime subscription in return for testing and publishing articles of the installation, workflow, metrics etc.
Doesn't hurt to ask - and considering the amount of time and effort it would take, I think it's more than fair
If you write an article, tag me
It's awesome.
I think emails like mine probably end up in spam anyway. LOL.
Divi, last time I checked, leaves a bunch of ugly Divi shortcodes when you disable it (if you ever decide to switch to a different theme or page builder). That's a downside IMO.
I could be wrong, but iirc Divi 5 supposedly does away with the Divi shortcodes.
Edit:
Hope someone will correct me if Divi too has switched to Gutenberg blocks (like Generatepress).
I should get down to testing the latest Divi now in that case - unless you have a site running it already to confirm.
OK, just gave it a look to download: Divi 5 is still in beta.
So, one might risk a lifetime on a promise that 5 will be good, and work nicely with blocks (i.e. no vendor lock-in).
No final conclusion since it's still in beta - and the same goes for the 1.0 version before proper patching (that's become the norm with every software).
Got the lifetime licence for testing. Thanks again to @Ympker for pointing me towards it.
I'll share notes once I've tested it properly (my I/O site RSS feed for those who like that ).
Do we need Divis of the world still?
( answer, yes, but maybe no more for everyone!)
I spent three hours between three LLMs, asking each to replicate selected features of some good themes I have used in the past…
I wanted no Block theme , no gutenburg…
Not for going cheap, but for the joy of discovering
Used base twenty twenty (borked) / twenty seventeen (works well). Testing it out thoroughly…
On that note if anyone is looking for elementor essential addons or brizy pagebuilder… dm
@bikegremlin said:
Got the lifetime licence for testing. Thanks again to @Ympker for pointing me towards it.
I'll share notes once I've tested it properly (my I/O site RSS feed for those who like that ).
Are you referring to LiveCanvas? Lmk once you publish your test
I've also imported some Bootstrap templates into it a while back. Worked great. Now, Tailwindcss (which I prefer) apparently is also supported. So maybe check out MerakiUI (https://merakiui.com/), DaisyUI, or other free Tailwind kits
@bikegremlin said:
Got the lifetime licence for testing. Thanks again to @Ympker for pointing me towards it.
I'll share notes once I've tested it properly (my I/O site RSS feed for those who like that ).
Are you referring to LiveCanvas? Lmk once you publish your test
I've also imported some Bootstrap templates into it a while back. Worked great. Now, Tailwindcss (which I prefer) apparently is also supported. So maybe check out MerakiUI (https://merakiui.com/), DaisyUI, or other free Tailwind kits
Yes, Livecanvas.
I've already started testing and writing notes - not much time, but it is a start.
I'll check out the MerakiUI (ask @Amadex to explain what "merak" means LOL ).
Still considering whether I should publish stuff on the forum as-I-go, or only publish article(s) (and maybe even some videos, will see).
I respect privacy, but I'm also happy to publish full attributions for any help or tips (I wouldn't have tested if you hadn't mentioned it) - so let me know if you want a no-pants pic. on the Gremlin website.
@bikegremlin said:
Got the lifetime licence for testing. Thanks again to @Ympker for pointing me towards it.
I'll share notes once I've tested it properly (my I/O site RSS feed for those who like that ).
Are you referring to LiveCanvas? Lmk once you publish your test
I've also imported some Bootstrap templates into it a while back. Worked great. Now, Tailwindcss (which I prefer) apparently is also supported. So maybe check out MerakiUI (https://merakiui.com/), DaisyUI, or other free Tailwind kits
Yes, Livecanvas.
I've already started testing and writing notes - not much time, but it is a start.
I'll check out the MerakiUI (ask @Amadex to explain what "merak" means LOL ).
Still considering whether I should publish stuff on the forum as-I-go, or only publish article(s) (and maybe even some videos, will see).
I respect privacy, but I'm also happy to publish full attributions for any help or tips (I wouldn't have tested if you hadn't mentioned it) - so let me know if you want a no-pants pic. on the Gremlin website.
@bikegremlin said:
Got the lifetime licence for testing. Thanks again to @Ympker for pointing me towards it.
I'll share notes once I've tested it properly (my I/O site RSS feed for those who like that ).
Are you referring to LiveCanvas? Lmk once you publish your test
I've also imported some Bootstrap templates into it a while back. Worked great. Now, Tailwindcss (which I prefer) apparently is also supported. So maybe check out MerakiUI (https://merakiui.com/), DaisyUI, or other free Tailwind kits
Yes, Livecanvas.
I've already started testing and writing notes - not much time, but it is a start.
I'll check out the MerakiUI (ask @Amadex to explain what "merak" means LOL ).
Still considering whether I should publish stuff on the forum as-I-go, or only publish article(s) (and maybe even some videos, will see).
I respect privacy, but I'm also happy to publish full attributions for any help or tips (I wouldn't have tested if you hadn't mentioned it) - so let me know if you want a no-pants pic. on the Gremlin website.
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I bought Divi years ago, didn't regret it so far. I haven't used it in a while either. Divi was getting slower with the feature load added, but Divi 5 is supposed to be a re-work of it being more snappy. Can't really go wrong with getting it if you might have a use case for it at all imho. There are ups and downs, but I've been happy overall.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
If Generatepress lifetime were still available, I would say buy that (I bought it) without a second thought.
Now since GP is supscription only, I'm not 100% sure.
Divi, last time I checked, leaves a bunch of ugly Divi shortcodes when you disable it (if you ever decide to switch to a different theme or page builder). That's a downside IMO.
Edit:
Hope someone will correct me if Divi too has switched to Gutenberg blocks (like Generatepress).
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If I could recommend another lifetime (on sale) it would be LiveCanvas for some snappy bootstrap based WP website that can be exported as plain html:
https://livecanvas.com/
I could be wrong, but iirc Divi 5 supposedly does away with the Divi shortcodes.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
That looks very interesting.
I just sent an email asking if they'd be willing to donate a lifetime subscription in return for testing and publishing articles of the installation, workflow, metrics etc.
Doesn't hurt to ask - and considering the amount of time and effort it would take, I think it's more than fair
I should get down to testing the latest Divi now in that case - unless you have a site running it already to confirm.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
If you write an article, tag me
It's awesome.
Don't have a site running Divi anymore atm
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
I think emails like mine probably end up in spam anyway. LOL.
Will check on Divi next week - if I don't forget.
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OK, just gave it a look to download: Divi 5 is still in beta.
So, one might risk a lifetime on a promise that 5 will be good, and work nicely with blocks (i.e. no vendor lock-in).
No final conclusion since it's still in beta - and the same goes for the 1.0 version before proper patching (that's become the norm with every software).
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Got the lifetime licence for testing. Thanks again to @Ympker for pointing me towards it.
).
I'll share notes once I've tested it properly (my I/O site RSS feed for those who like that
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Do we need Divis of the world still?
( answer, yes, but maybe no more for everyone!)
I spent three hours between three LLMs, asking each to replicate selected features of some good themes I have used in the past…
I wanted no Block theme , no gutenburg…
Not for going cheap, but for the joy of discovering
Used base twenty twenty (borked) / twenty seventeen (works well). Testing it out thoroughly…
On that note if anyone is looking for elementor essential addons or brizy pagebuilder… dm
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Are you referring to LiveCanvas? Lmk once you publish your test

I've also imported some Bootstrap templates into it a while back. Worked great. Now, Tailwindcss (which I prefer) apparently is also supported. So maybe check out MerakiUI (https://merakiui.com/), DaisyUI, or other free Tailwind kits
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Yes, Livecanvas.
I've already started testing and writing notes - not much time, but it is a start.
I'll check out the MerakiUI (ask @Amadex to explain what "merak" means LOL
).
Still considering whether I should publish stuff on the forum as-I-go, or only publish article(s) (and maybe even some videos, will see).
I respect privacy, but I'm also happy to publish full attributions for any help or tips (I wouldn't have tested if you hadn't mentioned it) - so let me know if you want a no-pants pic. on the Gremlin website.
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