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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider

    Ok, official info was sent to remaining affected customers, please check your e-mails.

    Here is a time-lined description of the event of the fuckup:

    July 27, 2025 – Afternoon (GMT+3):

    Multiple Seagate ST18000NM019J drives (firmware KM02) across two nodes suddenly powered down due to a firmware-related failure. Drives began reporting critical SMART alerts (Data channel impending failure), causing the RAID-6/60 array to become unavailable.

    Result:
    Addon storage volumes became inaccessible, and VPS services depending on those volumes were disrupted. Some NVMe-based systems also experienced write issues due to OS-level I/O buffering.

    July 28, 2025 – Morning:
    Our team accessed the datacenter, identified the fault, and began recovery efforts. All NVMe-only VPS services were successfully migrated to healthy nodes.

    July 28–29, 2025:
    RAID array access was restored in degraded mode, enabling partial access to addon volumes at limited transfer speeds.

    🧪 Root Cause

    Firmware fault affecting multiple ST18000NM019J (KM02) drives simultaneously

    RAID controller entered fault mode due to concurrent SMART failures

    No physical disk damage, no reallocated sectors or ECC errors — this was purely firmware-triggered

    🛡️ Mitigation Going Forward

    We are conducting a full infrastructure audit to identify any remaining ST18000NM019J drives with KM02 firmware

    Affected drives will be proactively replaced or updated, where supported

    RAID monitoring thresholds and firmware validation processes are being tightened to catch these failures earlier

    This was an unprecedented firmware-level failure that bypassed typical RAID fault tolerance. We appreciate your understanding as we finalize recovery efforts for impacted systems.

    Here is an output of one of the drives, maybe it can help others to check theirs if they have the same model used, all 6 reported exactly the same error, have the same powered on hours ( ~266 days ) and were brand new.

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Vendor:               SEAGATE
    Product:              ST18000NM019J
    Revision:             KM02
    Compliance:           SPC-5
    User Capacity:        18,000,207,937,536 bytes [18.0 TB]
    Logical block size:   4096 bytes
    LU is fully provisioned
    Rotation Rate:        7200 rpm
    Form Factor:          3.5 inches
    Logical Unit id:      0x5000c500d8a51a07
    Serial number:        ZR57B8800000G20806CV
    Device type:          disk
    Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-4)
    Local Time is:        Mon Jul 28 17:36:48 2025 UTC
    SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is:     Enabled
    Temperature Warning:  Enabled
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    

    SMART Health Status: Data channel impending failure general hard drive failure [asc=5d, ascq=30]

    Grown defects during certification <not available>
    Total blocks reassigned during format <not available>
    Total new blocks reassigned <not available>
    Power on minutes since format <not available>
    Current Drive Temperature:     31 C
    Drive Trip Temperature:        60 C
    
    Accumulated power on time, hours:minutes 6367:42
    Manufactured in week 01 of year 2022
    Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
    Accumulated start-stop cycles:  34
    Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  600000
    Accumulated load-unload cycles:  291
    Elements in grown defect list: 1
    
    Vendor (Seagate Cache) information
      Blocks sent to initiator = 3828
      Blocks received from initiator = 1650689
      Blocks read from cache and sent to initiator = 9094
      Number of read and write commands whose size <= segment size = 29
      Number of read and write commands whose size > segment size = 0
    
    Vendor (Seagate/Hitachi) factory information
      number of hours powered up = 6367.70
      number of minutes until next internal SMART test = 53
    
    Seagate FARM log supported [try: -l farm]
    
    Error counter log:
               Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
                   ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
               fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
    read:          0        0         0         0          0          0.016           0
    write:         0        0         0         0          0          6.889           0
    
    Non-medium error count:        0
    
    Pending defect count:0 Pending Defects
    

    The error in bold triggered the detach of the drives from the raid array.

    Here is a screen shot from the log of one of the dells servers ( R740 ) showing 2 drives leaving the " chat" at the precise same time, DST was not set on the server so that is why the time shows only 12:00

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  • FreekFreek Senpai

    Hope all is well with @host_c (Last Active: September 17). Just renewed my awesome 5TB VPS for another quarter :)

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  • bingobangobongobingobangobongo Hosting Provider

    Surely those euro summer vacations are over by now?!? 😬🤷‍♂️

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  • @bingobangobongo said:
    Surely those euro summer vacations are over by now?!? 😬🤷‍♂️

    I hope so

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  • AuroraZeroAuroraZero Hosting ProviderRetired

    They are busy upgrading and fixing things. The team is working on it and I am sure they will be ready for the next few months soon.

  • Upgraded my 5TB VPS from Debian 12 to 13 and the networking died. Make sure you know your root password in advance, the control panel can't change it, at least on debian 13, and you need it for VNC. Thankfully I found it lying around.

    To fix networking, put this in /etc/netplan/99-static.yaml (and chmod 600):

    network:
      version: 2
      renderer: networkd
      ethernets:
        eth0:
          match:
            macaddress: "YOURMAC"
          set-name: eth0
          dhcp4: false
          dhcp6: false
          accept-ra: true
          addresses:
            - YOURV4/32
            - YOURV6/128
          routes:
            - to: 0.0.0.0/0
              via: YOURGATEWAY
              on-link: true
          nameservers:
            addresses:
              - 1.1.1.1
              - 1.0.0.1
    

    I think doing this after upgrade but before the post-upgrade reboot should prevent death of networking. Get addresses/gateway from control panel. Don't set v6 gateway, it'll break IPv6. After upgrade my server was set to use DHCP for some reason, which didn't get any addresses.

    I don't actually know why it broke but this is working across reboots. nameservers might be unnecessary but when networking first died it also wiped DNS server setup, it didn't have any set at all.

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  • AmadexAmadex Hosting Provider

    This is my fav backup server, ever!

    root@vserver2:~# curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu Oct 30 13:06:59 CET 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 1 minutes
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6240 CPU @ 2.60GHz
    CPU cores  : 6 @ 2593.904 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 7.8 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 116.2 GiB
    Distro     : Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS
    Kernel     : 6.8.0-86-generic
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Andrei Tiberiu Holt
    ASN        : AS211462 Andrei Tiberiu Holt
    Host       : Andrei Tiberiu Holt
    Location   : Oradea, Bihor County (BH)
    Country    : Romania
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 324.66 MB/s  (81.1k) | 1.66 GB/s    (26.0k)
    Write      | 325.51 MB/s  (81.3k) | 1.67 GB/s    (26.1k)
    Total      | 650.17 MB/s (162.5k) | 3.33 GB/s    (52.1k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 2.41 GB/s     (4.7k) | 2.43 GB/s     (2.3k)
    Write      | 2.54 GB/s     (4.9k) | 2.59 GB/s     (2.5k)
    Total      | 4.95 GB/s     (9.6k) | 5.03 GB/s     (4.9k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 677 Mbits/sec   | 979 Mbits/sec   | 35.7 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 646 Mbits/sec   | 966 Mbits/sec   | 33.1 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 344 Mbits/sec   | 888 Mbits/sec   | 115 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 284 Mbits/sec   | 681 Mbits/sec   | 181 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 291 Mbits/sec   | 334 Mbits/sec   | 172 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 431 Mbits/sec   | 822 Mbits/sec   | 104 ms         
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 219 Mbits/sec   | 845 Mbits/sec   | 231 ms         
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 672 Mbits/sec   | 973 Mbits/sec   | 35.8 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 604 Mbits/sec   | 974 Mbits/sec   | 33.1 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 408 Mbits/sec   | 857 Mbits/sec   | 115 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 250 Mbits/sec   | 866 Mbits/sec   | 181 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 310 Mbits/sec   | 691 Mbits/sec   | 172 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 403 Mbits/sec   | 906 Mbits/sec   | 104 ms         
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 213 Mbits/sec   | 819 Mbits/sec   | 231 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1056                          
    Multi Core      | 4340                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/14749923
    
    YABS completed in 14 min 1 sec
    
  • AmadexAmadex Hosting Provider

    @dartagnan said:
    @Amadex how much per year?

    0€, @host_c likes me

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  • AuroraZeroAuroraZero Hosting ProviderRetired

    @dartagnan said:

    @Amadex said:

    @dartagnan said:
    @Amadex how much per year?

    0€, @host_c likes me

    I'm jealous

    NO reason to be jealous man . His penis is still smaller than yours.

  • @AuroraZero said:
    NO reason to be jealous man . His penis is still smaller thæn yours.

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  • AmadexAmadex Hosting Provider

    @somik said:

    @AuroraZero said:
    NO reason to be jealous man . His penis is still smaller thæn yours.

    I used to write songs for him

  • AuroraZeroAuroraZero Hosting ProviderRetired

    @somik said:

    @AuroraZero said:
    NO reason to be jealous man . His penis is still smaller thæn yours.

    Cause I knows everything man and I do mean everything. I am Yeti Claws after all

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  • edited November 26

    Oh noes, tomorrow 27.11 there's a maitenance. Machines pwoered off. Billions lost. Deadpool is at the corner.

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  • AuroraZeroAuroraZero Hosting ProviderRetired

    @Shot² said:
    Oh noes, tomorrow 27.11 there's a maitenance. Machines pwoered off. Billions lost. Deadpool is at the corner.

    Yeape Stu is getting drunk and they know what happens then.

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  • Kudos @host_c for the long, insightful email :3 . All the best for 2026. B)

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  • @Shot² said:
    Kudos @host_c for the long, insightful email :3 . All the best for 2026. B)

    Right? Sounds like they are making good decisions and we keep informed.

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited December 4

    @Shot² said:
    Kudos @host_c for the long, insightful email :3 . All the best for 2026. B)

    THX, I appreciate it.

    Those that got the mail now know why we were kinda off this year and absent in the Deal Threads.

    And Yes, I did use AI to correct my typing, you should have seen the draft, not even I understood it =)

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider

    @imok said: Right? Sounds like they are making good decisions and we keep informed.

    Most will actually benefit from these decisions in the mid-long run, some will not. It is what it is.

    Just be sure to have some Pop-Corn on idle, I do expect some fallout in Late December / beginning of January titled:

    Shit HOT-C deleted my VPS and I lost my P**N Collection - The tragedy =) =)

    Witch is espected as he/she/it's fake e-mail did not forward the info.

    Either-way, I am looking forward for next year.

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • Looking at the CPU, we are safe for now.
    We don't have a P**N Collection — we search YouTube for "buff dudes" or "pamela reif" whenever we feel like it.
    Our name and email and telephone are all real, but address is office mailing address — residential address can be provided in exchange for a hoodie.

    sunny@box7:~$ curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash -s -- -fig
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fri Dec  5 01:50:03 UTC 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 7 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6248 CPU @ 2.50GHz
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 2494.140 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 3.8 GiB
    Swap       : 512.0 MiB
    Disk       : 2.0 TiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-41-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : HOST-C Oradea
    ASN        : AS211462 Andrei Tiberiu Holt
    Location   : Oradea, Bihor County (BH)
    Country    : Romania
    
    YABS completed in 1 sec
    
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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited 12:02PM

    @yoursunny said:
    Looking at the CPU, we are safe for now.
    We don't have a P**N Collection — we search YouTube for "buff dudes" or "pamela reif" whenever we feel like it.
    Our name and email and telephone are all real, but address is office mailing address — residential address can be provided in exchange for a hoodie.

    sunny@box7:~$ curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash -s -- -fig
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fri Dec  5 01:50:03 UTC 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 7 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6248 CPU @ 2.50GHz
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 2494.140 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 3.8 GiB
    Swap       : 512.0 MiB
    Disk       : 2.0 TiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-41-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : HOST-C Oradea
    ASN        : AS211462 Andrei Tiberiu Holt
    Location   : Oradea, Bihor County (BH)
    Country    : Romania
    
    YABS completed in 1 sec
    

    Interesting fact, we actually had close to 0 problems like the ones described in the mail with the vast majority of the "active" users from here and OGF.

    And I am proud of that!

    PS:

    @yoursunny said: We don't have a P**N Collection

    Anyone should have one sincerely. =) =) :p

    Cheers!

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider

    that is pretty cool actually.

    Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462

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  • skorousskorous OGSenpai

    @host_c said: Interesting fact, we actually had close to 0 problems like the ones described in the mail with the vast majority of the "active" users from here and OGF.

    Is there a reason you wouldn't talk about it here? I haven't seen the email so I don't understand what problem we're referring to.

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited 5:24PM

    Well, I think it is time we do not use forums for support tiket , tho this falls under announcements, here it is:


    A Look Back at 2025 and the Road Ahead

    Dear customers,

    As many of you know, we entered 2025 with an ambitious list of improvements we wanted to deliver. Unfortunately, many of these plans did not materialize. Over the past few days, I took the time to analyze why.

    The conclusion was straightforward: too much of our time was consumed by daily abuse cases, fake accounts, and operational distractions, leaving little room for the larger and more complicated projects we committed to.
    And let’s be honest — 2025’s geopolitical and economic chaos did not help either. 🙂

    For 2026, this will change.

    Zero tolerance for fake accounts

    We have repeatedly asked customers to update their profiles with real information. Some complied, many ignored the request.

    To protect our platform and eliminate wasted time, we will enforce a 0-tolerance policy for fake accounts starting immediately.

    Additionally:

    → We will tighten our fraud-protection rules.

    After more than 12 months of operating our automated fraud-detection system, we can confirm its accuracy:

    9 out of 10 flagged orders were indeed abusive
    Orders manually approved just 1% above the fraud threshold turned abusive 9 out of 10 times

    Therefore:

    → Borderline and suspicious orders will no longer be manually approved.

    → Fraud screening will be stricter and strictly enforced.

    The TOS will be updated shortly.

    Product naming issues & the $6 upgrade situation

    We acknowledge that some product naming and upgrade communications in 2024–2025 caused confusion — some of it chaotic:

    The Pioneer 5TB LET/LES editions created ambiguity (now corrected).
    The upgrade from E5-V4 → Scale Gen1 is still misunderstood by some customers as an upgrade to Gen2.

    In practice:

    Scale Gen1 severely underperformed
    It was retired quickly
    Impacted customers were temporarily moved to Scale Gen2

    This created a fairness issue:

    Some customers paid $6 for an upgrade that did not provide long-term value, ending up on Scale Gen2, while others paid higher prices for native E5-V4 → Scale Gen2 plans.

    To restore fairness and consistency:

    → All affected customers who paid the upgrade from E5-V4 to Scale Gen1 will receive a full $6 refund as account credit.

    → Services will be migrated back to their initial E5-V4 platform until final decommissioning.

    → This is mostly the case for the Pioneer 5TB and Nimitz 10TB plans.

    This takes effect immediately as of 04-12-2025.

    This corrects the imbalance, and no one loses anything.
    This was one of the largest operational mistakes of 2024–2025, and we have learned from it.

    Abuse of promotional products & transfer restrictions

    A large portion of platform abuse occurred on promotional products — often transferred repeatedly between users.
    Some services changed owners five or more times in just a few months, and nearly every time ended up abused.

    As it turns out, our initial wish to be flexible in this area came back to bite us.
    Sometimes it is better to be more rigid, and flexibility should not be present in all parts of the service.

    This is also why we did not participate in this year’s LET and LES Black Friday sales.

    Until we develop a reliable anti-abuse formula, participating is a waste of resources and creates discomfort for existing customers.

    Starting today, 04-12-2025:

    → Promotional products will no longer be transferable.

    For list-priced (non-promo) services:

    → Transfers remain allowed but must be requested via support ticket.

    There will be no other exceptions.

    The TOS will be updated accordingly.

    End-of-life for E5-V4 services

    As previously announced, all E5-V4 services will be decommissioned by the end of 2025, with two exceptions:

    Pioneer 5TB
    Nimitz 10TB
    

    There will be no other exceptions.

    The E5-V4 platform is outdated, unstable, difficult to debug, and performs poorly on the 2025 hypervisor stack. It is no longer viable to maintain.

    Looking ahead to 2026

    2026 is just around the corner and, while I could say much more, I will keep it simple:

    → More attention to detail

    → Improved stability

    → Increased performance

    We will roll out additional storage options using Hardware RAID10, correct mistakes of past years, bring new features, and focus on quality over all other aspects.

    For those who stay with us: thank you, and a big hug.

    Your support and patience mean a lot to us. :3

    Happy holidays, and best wishes from our entire team. <3

    HOST-C

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  • edited 6:27PM

    Really appreciate the update! I have a quick clarification question about the 5TB storage plans -- if my plan is labeled now as "Pioneer XNova - Storage 5TB - I185 - G2" does that mean I'm on Gen 2, and should be good to go to keep using it indefinitely? Or are all the Pioneer plans regardless of generation going to eventually go away, I swear I remember reading something about 2027 in the email?

    (edit: I checked the email, says nothing about that)

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider

    @SocksAreComfortable said: if my plan is labeled now as "Pioneer XNova - Storage 5TB - I185 - G2" does that mean I'm on Gen 2, and should be good to go to keep using it indefinitely?

    yappp.

    well, I will not say indefinitely, as in 10 years from now i highly doubt we will run Scale Gen 2. =) , but the G2 will not be scheduled for decommission anytime soon.

    Once I will redo all the TOS from ground UP, it will be sent out to all active customers.

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