@angstrom said:
Around a month ago, mainly because I was curious, I signed up for a free 2GB Nextcloud account at The Good Cloud ( https://thegood.cloud/ ), who are an "official preferred partner" of Nextcloud. One signs up for this free account via the page https://nextcloud.com/sign-up/#the_good_cloud at the Nextcloud site. My impression after a month is very positive: the synchronization is always very quick and I haven't yet noticed any downtime. The Good Cloud claim to be privacy-centric ( https://thegood.cloud/about-us/ ). Not surprisingly, their pricing ( https://buy.thegood.cloud/en/individuals ) is much higher than Hetzner's managed Nextcloud pricing, but I think that I'd be more inclined to choose The Good Cloud over Hetzner for managed Nextcloud
After some problems with eM Client contacts sync, I've concluded that Nextcloud is probably the safest bet for contacts after all. But, properly managed one, ideally not the latest & greatest version.
[...]
I also decided to give The Good Cloud a try. Works fine, but the free account is no longer really free:
I didn't know about this change because I don't look at their website often. As far as I can tell, they haven't yet sent an email about this change to users (like me) that have a "legacy" free account (that wasn't time-limited)
For my personal use, the personal plan price of 3.5 € per month would still be cheaper than Hetzner, though if more than one person wanted to use it, I can see Hetzner becoming cheaper very quickly (1 TB, unlimited users for under 4.5 € per month):
I must say that my free account at The Good Cloud has worked very well. I see that they've introduced a new entry-level account of 10GB for €1,99 / month -- I say "new" because this account wasn't available the last time that I looked. I would consider getting this account
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@angstrom said:
Around a month ago, mainly because I was curious, I signed up for a free 2GB Nextcloud account at The Good Cloud ( https://thegood.cloud/ ), who are an "official preferred partner" of Nextcloud. One signs up for this free account via the page https://nextcloud.com/sign-up/#the_good_cloud at the Nextcloud site. My impression after a month is very positive: the synchronization is always very quick and I haven't yet noticed any downtime. The Good Cloud claim to be privacy-centric ( https://thegood.cloud/about-us/ ). Not surprisingly, their pricing ( https://buy.thegood.cloud/en/individuals ) is much higher than Hetzner's managed Nextcloud pricing, but I think that I'd be more inclined to choose The Good Cloud over Hetzner for managed Nextcloud
After some problems with eM Client contacts sync, I've concluded that Nextcloud is probably the safest bet for contacts after all. But, properly managed one, ideally not the latest & greatest version.
[...]
I also decided to give The Good Cloud a try. Works fine, but the free account is no longer really free:
I didn't know about this change because I don't look at their website often. As far as I can tell, they haven't yet sent an email about this change to users (like me) that have a "legacy" free account (that wasn't time-limited)
For my personal use, the personal plan price of 3.5 € per month would still be cheaper than Hetzner, though if more than one person wanted to use it, I can see Hetzner becoming cheaper very quickly (1 TB, unlimited users for under 4.5 € per month):
I must say that my free account at The Good Cloud has worked very well. I see that they've introduced a new entry-level account of 10GB for €1,99 / month -- I say "new" because this account wasn't available the last time that I looked. I would consider getting this account
Yup, that's €2 if you pay for a year in advance, and €3.5 if you pay monthly.
That should work for me.
Worth keeping in mind.
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
@angstrom said:
Around a month ago, mainly because I was curious, I signed up for a free 2GB Nextcloud account at The Good Cloud ( https://thegood.cloud/ ), who are an "official preferred partner" of Nextcloud. One signs up for this free account via the page https://nextcloud.com/sign-up/#the_good_cloud at the Nextcloud site. My impression after a month is very positive: the synchronization is always very quick and I haven't yet noticed any downtime. The Good Cloud claim to be privacy-centric ( https://thegood.cloud/about-us/ ). Not surprisingly, their pricing ( https://buy.thegood.cloud/en/individuals ) is much higher than Hetzner's managed Nextcloud pricing, but I think that I'd be more inclined to choose The Good Cloud over Hetzner for managed Nextcloud
After some problems with eM Client contacts sync, I've concluded that Nextcloud is probably the safest bet for contacts after all. But, properly managed one, ideally not the latest & greatest version.
[...]
I also decided to give The Good Cloud a try. Works fine, but the free account is no longer really free:
I didn't know about this change because I don't look at their website often. As far as I can tell, they haven't yet sent an email about this change to users (like me) that have a "legacy" free account (that wasn't time-limited)
I now see that that blog post is from 03 July of last year, which would mean that my free account, which is from 27 September, is also time-limited (or should be, according to the blog post). But what puzzles me is that I've never been told that my free account is free for at most six months. If I enter my Nextcloud account, the only message that I see (since having first received the account) is:
Users that have not logged in for 180 days are automatically and permanently deleted, this can not be reversed. The data can not be recovered if that happens. That said, any desktop and mobile app that is connected is registered as a log in. So basically: use the service, its sync, share, collaborate and have fun!
This is merely the condition that one needs to use the free account (which I do)
So I wonder whether my free account is time-limited or not ...
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@bikegremlin said:
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
Do you think that it's well-maintained?
I recall reading that someone said (either here or on OGF) that they use an old (outdated?) version of Nextcloud
How much space do they provide?
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@bikegremlin said:
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
Do you think that it's well-maintained?
I recall reading that someone said (either here or on OGF) that they use an old (outdated?) version of Nextcloud
How much space do they provide?
Yeah - I put a link to a Reddit discussion about that.
And to my own ordeal with latest Nextcloud version.
So, based on that - it's helped me sort my contacts out and make them work with Em Client too.
It seems like it's running just fine (at least for the CardDAV/CalDAV stuff).
If that ever changes, I will see about the Good Cloud or Hetzner (the latter will be cheaper if even one friend/relative/client decides to host their contacts there - though I suppose Good Cloud support should be better).
@angstrom said:
Around a month ago, mainly because I was curious, I signed up for a free 2GB Nextcloud account at The Good Cloud ( https://thegood.cloud/ ), who are an "official preferred partner" of Nextcloud. One signs up for this free account via the page https://nextcloud.com/sign-up/#the_good_cloud at the Nextcloud site. My impression after a month is very positive: the synchronization is always very quick and I haven't yet noticed any downtime. The Good Cloud claim to be privacy-centric ( https://thegood.cloud/about-us/ ). Not surprisingly, their pricing ( https://buy.thegood.cloud/en/individuals ) is much higher than Hetzner's managed Nextcloud pricing, but I think that I'd be more inclined to choose The Good Cloud over Hetzner for managed Nextcloud
After some problems with eM Client contacts sync, I've concluded that Nextcloud is probably the safest bet for contacts after all. But, properly managed one, ideally not the latest & greatest version.
[...]
I also decided to give The Good Cloud a try. Works fine, but the free account is no longer really free:
I didn't know about this change because I don't look at their website often. As far as I can tell, they haven't yet sent an email about this change to users (like me) that have a "legacy" free account (that wasn't time-limited)
For my personal use, the personal plan price of 3.5 € per month would still be cheaper than Hetzner, though if more than one person wanted to use it, I can see Hetzner becoming cheaper very quickly (1 TB, unlimited users for under 4.5 € per month):
I must say that my free account at The Good Cloud has worked very well. I see that they've introduced a new entry-level account of 10GB for €1,99 / month -- I say "new" because this account wasn't available the last time that I looked. I would consider getting this account
Yup, that's €2 if you pay for a year in advance, and €3.5 if you pay monthly.
That should work for me.
Worth keeping in mind.
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
@angstrom said:
Around a month ago, mainly because I was curious, I signed up for a free 2GB Nextcloud account at The Good Cloud ( https://thegood.cloud/ ), who are an "official preferred partner" of Nextcloud. One signs up for this free account via the page https://nextcloud.com/sign-up/#the_good_cloud at the Nextcloud site. My impression after a month is very positive: the synchronization is always very quick and I haven't yet noticed any downtime. The Good Cloud claim to be privacy-centric ( https://thegood.cloud/about-us/ ). Not surprisingly, their pricing ( https://buy.thegood.cloud/en/individuals ) is much higher than Hetzner's managed Nextcloud pricing, but I think that I'd be more inclined to choose The Good Cloud over Hetzner for managed Nextcloud
After some problems with eM Client contacts sync, I've concluded that Nextcloud is probably the safest bet for contacts after all. But, properly managed one, ideally not the latest & greatest version.
[...]
I also decided to give The Good Cloud a try. Works fine, but the free account is no longer really free:
I didn't know about this change because I don't look at their website often. As far as I can tell, they haven't yet sent an email about this change to users (like me) that have a "legacy" free account (that wasn't time-limited)
For my personal use, the personal plan price of 3.5 € per month would still be cheaper than Hetzner, though if more than one person wanted to use it, I can see Hetzner becoming cheaper very quickly (1 TB, unlimited users for under 4.5 € per month):
I must say that my free account at The Good Cloud has worked very well. I see that they've introduced a new entry-level account of 10GB for €1,99 / month -- I say "new" because this account wasn't available the last time that I looked. I would consider getting this account
Yup, that's €2 if you pay for a year in advance, and €3.5 if you pay monthly.
That should work for me.
Worth keeping in mind.
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
What if jar dies
Plan stays the same regardless: we first attack Bulgaria, to gain access to the sea!
@bikegremlin said:
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
Do you think that it's well-maintained?
I recall reading that someone said (either here or on OGF) that they use an old (outdated?) version of Nextcloud
How much space do they provide?
Yeah - I put a link to a Reddit discussion about that.
Right, sorry, you did indeed:
MXroute offers Nextcloud via Crossbox and that's working great for now (I'm using only CardDAV and CalDAV) - even though it's "only" version 24 Nextcloud (discussed on Reddit).
If it works for you, then great, but at the same time, Nextcloud 24 has been EOL since 2023
(Personally, I wouldn't want to rely on CrossBox for Nextcloud)
And to my own ordeal with latest Nextcloud version.
I see: so using Nextcloud 24 offers a solution to the ordeal
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
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@bikegremlin said:
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
Do you think that it's well-maintained?
I recall reading that someone said (either here or on OGF) that they use an old (outdated?) version of Nextcloud
How much space do they provide?
Yeah - I put a link to a Reddit discussion about that.
Right, sorry, you did indeed:
MXroute offers Nextcloud via Crossbox and that's working great for now (I'm using only CardDAV and CalDAV) - even though it's "only" version 24 Nextcloud (discussed on Reddit).
If it works for you, then great, but at the same time, Nextcloud 24 has been EOL since 2023
(Personally, I wouldn't want to rely on CrossBox for Nextcloud)
And to my own ordeal with latest Nextcloud version.
I see: so using Nextcloud 24 offers a solution to the ordeal
I think the main point is that it's a stable version - if a bit old.
Having said that, The Good Cloud also seems to work very well - though I'm not 100% sure which Nextcloud version they are running (I expect it is one that is stable, maybe one or two versions behind, but not EOL - though the free tier doesn't clearly show the version info).
Edit: also fair to note that I'm using only what I believe are very light and basic Nextcloud functions - otherwise I would probably be looking for a more up-to-date version.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@bikegremlin said:
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
Do you think that it's well-maintained?
I recall reading that someone said (either here or on OGF) that they use an old (outdated?) version of Nextcloud
How much space do they provide?
Yeah - I put a link to a Reddit discussion about that.
Right, sorry, you did indeed:
MXroute offers Nextcloud via Crossbox and that's working great for now (I'm using only CardDAV and CalDAV) - even though it's "only" version 24 Nextcloud (discussed on Reddit).
If it works for you, then great, but at the same time, Nextcloud 24 has been EOL since 2023
(Personally, I wouldn't want to rely on CrossBox for Nextcloud)
And to my own ordeal with latest Nextcloud version.
I see: so using Nextcloud 24 offers a solution to the ordeal
I think the main point is that it's a stable version - if a bit old.
Having said that, The Good Cloud also seems to work very well - though I'm not 100% sure which Nextcloud version they are running (I expect it is one that is stable, maybe one or two versions behind, but not EOL - though the free tier doesn't clearly show the version info).
The Nextcloud server of The Good Cloud that my free account is on is version 30, which is EOL since the end of October
Still much more recent than Nextcloud 24, which is EOL since the end of April 2023
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@bikegremlin said:
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
Do you think that it's well-maintained?
I recall reading that someone said (either here or on OGF) that they use an old (outdated?) version of Nextcloud
How much space do they provide?
Yeah - I put a link to a Reddit discussion about that.
Right, sorry, you did indeed:
MXroute offers Nextcloud via Crossbox and that's working great for now (I'm using only CardDAV and CalDAV) - even though it's "only" version 24 Nextcloud (discussed on Reddit).
If it works for you, then great, but at the same time, Nextcloud 24 has been EOL since 2023
(Personally, I wouldn't want to rely on CrossBox for Nextcloud)
And to my own ordeal with latest Nextcloud version.
I see: so using Nextcloud 24 offers a solution to the ordeal
I think the main point is that it's a stable version - if a bit old.
Having said that, The Good Cloud also seems to work very well - though I'm not 100% sure which Nextcloud version they are running (I expect it is one that is stable, maybe one or two versions behind, but not EOL - though the free tier doesn't clearly show the version info).
The Nextcloud server of The Good Cloud that my free account is on is version 30, which is EOL since the end of October
Still much more recent than Nextcloud 24, which is EOL since the end of April 2023
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
But the new versions 31 and 32 are (technically) stable!
Maybe it was just me - but from what I can see, many (most?) Nextcloud providers don't rush the updates.
I did not have luck with a patch update (which should generally not be a problematic thing - and yes, no Nextcloud expert so my setup may have not been very good from the start).
But the new versions 31 and 32 are (technically) stable!
Maybe it was just me - but from what I can see, many (most?) Nextcloud providers don't rush the updates.
I did not have luck with a patch update (which should generally not be a problematic thing - and yes, no Nextcloud expert so my setup may have not been very good from the start).
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
But the new versions 31 and 32 are (technically) stable!
Maybe it was just me - but from what I can see, many (most?) Nextcloud providers don't rush the updates.
I did not have luck with a patch update (which should generally not be a problematic thing - and yes, no Nextcloud expert so my setup may have not been very good from the start).
On the two Nextcloud servers that manage, I aim to stay one major version (currently: 31) behind the latest major version (currently: 32)
I wouldn't want to run an EOL version -- especially an EOL version from a couple of years ago -- for very long
Makes sense.
Here is what I've noticed (only one man, one CardDAV, so not a statistically valid finding):
In terms of performance, when uploading and especially updating and deleting contacts:
MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud 24 performs very well.
TAB.DIGIAL is second, with lower performance but no getting stuck.
The Good Cloud would get stuck as if it is not working - then after several minutes continue deleting (as if the server is underpowered) - leaving some contacts undeleted at the end still.
Uploads (imports) work well with all the three providers.
I understand that The Good Cloud free tier is run on shared, cheaper hardware, but I can't say this looks promising (The Good Cloud and TAB.DIGITAL are a lot more expensive than Hetzner - which I haven't tested yet for having no free tier... and MXroute working perfectly fine).
Another thing I noticed when I tried to re-check the prices was this on TAB.DIGITAL site - that does not look promising:
(reported as unsafe - I haven't found any malicious stuff - may be some trolling, but not looking ideal either way)
In my experience over the years (and I have no ilusions that this is the right way to look at things, just my 2c as the Americans say), companies that don't fix the first impression (website, pre-sales communication, even user control panel) are companies I end up not being happy with even for the service (again - that's me, your preferences may differ). It should not matter as that's a separate thing from running a service, but it still often ends up that way (I'm not perfect either, there are different providers for different customers, of course).
But of course that testing the service is the most accurate way of finding out if it fits.
So far, despite the old NC, MXroute seems like a clear winner for my use case.
That is not the result I expected.
I understand that the dedicated Nextcloud providers would not put high-end infrastructure on the free tier, but it would probably have been better for them to remove the free tier completely - this just gives a bad impression that I would have to "step over" if I wanted to give them any money - and then see for real if the service is any good.
Does this make sense?
Import/export peculiarities
Export from Nextcloud version 24 doesn't work perfectly 100% when imported to say 30 or 31 (at least for my testing with the noted Nextcloud providers).
Also, Nextcloud 24 has some problems with re-formatting contacts upon importing its own previous export (export contacts, delete all on Nextcloud, import them again).
So, old versions aren't perfect either after all. Sigh.
This is still not article-ready (I have a lot more questions than answers), but I'm writing it down on my Q&A platform (helps me think, figure things out, write articles once it's sorted out, and it may help others even as it is).
Possible problem cause for my initial contacts mess:
But the new versions 31 and 32 are (technically) stable!
Maybe it was just me - but from what I can see, many (most?) Nextcloud providers don't rush the updates.
I did not have luck with a patch update (which should generally not be a problematic thing - and yes, no Nextcloud expert so my setup may have not been very good from the start).
On the two Nextcloud servers that manage, I aim to stay one major version (currently: 31) behind the latest major version (currently: 32)
I wouldn't want to run an EOL version -- especially an EOL version from a couple of years ago -- for very long
Makes sense.
Here is what I've noticed (only one man, one CardDAV, so not a statistically valid finding):
In terms of performance, when uploading and especially updating and deleting contacts:
MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud 24 performs very well.
TAB.DIGIAL is second, with lower performance but no getting stuck.
The Good Cloud would get stuck as if it is not working - then after several minutes continue deleting (as if the server is underpowered) - leaving some contacts undeleted at the end still.
Uploads (imports) work well with all the three providers.
I understand that The Good Cloud free tier is run on shared, cheaper hardware, but I can't say this looks promising (The Good Cloud and TAB.DIGITAL are a lot more expensive than Hetzner - which I haven't tested yet for having no free tier... and MXroute working perfectly fine).
A couple of reactions:
Yes, there's little doubt that the free accounts on The Good Cloud are placed on heavily shared hardware -- The Good Cloud virtually admit this themselves -- and this is probably true for the free accounts on TAB.DIGITAL as well, which is understandable. As I've said, I find the performance of my free account on The Good Cloud to be fine, and by "performance" I mean (i) general reachability/uptime of the Nextcloud server and (ii) synchronization of files without noticeable delays. (I can't speak about TAB.DIGITAL, because I don't have an account there)
This is just a guess, but I could imagine that Nextcloud 24 at CrossBox/MXroute is relatively underused. I suspect that relatively few MXroute users use the Nextcloud provided by CrossBox -- even if they use CrossBox -- and if they use the Nextcloud provided by CrossBox, they're probably not heavy users of this Nextcloud. If true, then we would expect that the performance of Nextcloud 24 at CrossBox/MXroute would be pretty good
[...]
Export from Nextcloud version 24 doesn't work perfectly 100% when imported to say 30 or 31 (at least for my testing with the noted Nextcloud providers).
Also, Nextcloud 24 has some problems with re-formatting contacts upon importing its own previous export (export contacts, delete all on Nextcloud, import them again).
So, old versions aren't perfect either after all. Sigh.
Indeed
Again, for me at least, given that CrossBox are still using/offering Nextcloud 24, I simply don't have much confidence in their managing of Nextcloud. For CrossBox, Nextcloud is a free add-on -- it's not their main product or focus
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
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I didn't know about this change because I don't look at their website often. As far as I can tell, they haven't yet sent an email about this change to users (like me) that have a "legacy" free account (that wasn't time-limited)
I must say that my free account at The Good Cloud has worked very well. I see that they've introduced a new entry-level account of 10GB for €1,99 / month -- I say "new" because this account wasn't available the last time that I looked. I would consider getting this account
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Yup, that's €2 if you pay for a year in advance, and €3.5 if you pay monthly.
That should work for me.
Worth keeping in mind.
Sticking with MXroute's Crossbox Nextcloud platform for the time being - it works perfectly fine for what I need.
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I now see that that blog post is from 03 July of last year, which would mean that my free account, which is from 27 September, is also time-limited (or should be, according to the blog post). But what puzzles me is that I've never been told that my free account is free for at most six months. If I enter my Nextcloud account, the only message that I see (since having first received the account) is:
This is merely the condition that one needs to use the free account (which I do)
So I wonder whether my free account is time-limited or not ...
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Do you think that it's well-maintained?
I recall reading that someone said (either here or on OGF) that they use an old (outdated?) version of Nextcloud
How much space do they provide?
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Yeah - I put a link to a Reddit discussion about that.
And to my own ordeal with latest Nextcloud version.
So, based on that - it's helped me sort my contacts out and make them work with Em Client too.
It seems like it's running just fine (at least for the CardDAV/CalDAV stuff).
If that ever changes, I will see about the Good Cloud or Hetzner (the latter will be cheaper if even one friend/relative/client decides to host their contacts there - though I suppose Good Cloud support should be better).
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Right, sorry, you did indeed:
If it works for you, then great, but at the same time, Nextcloud 24 has been EOL since 2023
(Personally, I wouldn't want to rely on CrossBox for Nextcloud)
I see: so using Nextcloud 24 offers a solution to the ordeal
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
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I think the main point is that it's a stable version - if a bit old.
Having said that, The Good Cloud also seems to work very well - though I'm not 100% sure which Nextcloud version they are running (I expect it is one that is stable, maybe one or two versions behind, but not EOL - though the free tier doesn't clearly show the version info).
Edit: also fair to note that I'm using only what I believe are very light and basic Nextcloud functions - otherwise I would probably be looking for a more up-to-date version.
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By the way, just to say that TAB.DIGITAL offer free 8GB Nextcloud accounts:
https://tab.digital/en/nextcloud-one
I haven't tried them. They say that the free accounts have ads, which doesn't really tempt me
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
The Nextcloud server of The Good Cloud that my free account is on is version 30, which is EOL since the end of October
Still much more recent than Nextcloud 24, which is EOL since the end of April 2023
(See https://github.com/nextcloud/server/wiki/Maintenance-and-Release-Schedule )
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Rat race - like PHP versions.
IMO - stable beats new.
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But the new versions 31 and 32 are (technically) stable!
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Maybe it was just me - but from what I can see, many (most?) Nextcloud providers don't rush the updates.
I did not have luck with a patch update (which should generally not be a problematic thing - and yes, no Nextcloud expert so my setup may have not been very good from the start).
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Indeed, updating Nextcloud isn't always straightforward!
On the two Nextcloud servers that manage, I aim to stay one major version (currently: 31) behind the latest major version (currently: 32)
I wouldn't want to run an EOL version -- especially an EOL version from a couple of years ago -- for very long
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Makes sense.
Here is what I've noticed (only one man, one CardDAV, so not a statistically valid finding):
In terms of performance, when uploading and especially updating and deleting contacts:
Uploads (imports) work well with all the three providers.
I understand that The Good Cloud free tier is run on shared, cheaper hardware, but I can't say this looks promising (The Good Cloud and TAB.DIGITAL are a lot more expensive than Hetzner - which I haven't tested yet for having no free tier... and MXroute working perfectly fine).
Another thing I noticed when I tried to re-check the prices was this on TAB.DIGITAL site - that does not look promising:
(reported as unsafe - I haven't found any malicious stuff - may be some trolling, but not looking ideal either way)
In my experience over the years (and I have no ilusions that this is the right way to look at things, just my 2c as the Americans say), companies that don't fix the first impression (website, pre-sales communication, even user control panel) are companies I end up not being happy with even for the service (again - that's me, your preferences may differ). It should not matter as that's a separate thing from running a service, but it still often ends up that way (I'm not perfect either, there are different providers for different customers, of course).
But of course that testing the service is the most accurate way of finding out if it fits.
So far, despite the old NC, MXroute seems like a clear winner for my use case.
That is not the result I expected.
I understand that the dedicated Nextcloud providers would not put high-end infrastructure on the free tier, but it would probably have been better for them to remove the free tier completely - this just gives a bad impression that I would have to "step over" if I wanted to give them any money - and then see for real if the service is any good.
Does this make sense?
Import/export peculiarities
Export from Nextcloud version 24 doesn't work perfectly 100% when imported to say 30 or 31 (at least for my testing with the noted Nextcloud providers).
Also, Nextcloud 24 has some problems with re-formatting contacts upon importing its own previous export (export contacts, delete all on Nextcloud, import them again).
So, old versions aren't perfect either after all. Sigh.
Relja
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This is still not article-ready (I have a lot more questions than answers), but I'm writing it down on my Q&A platform (helps me think, figure things out, write articles once it's sorted out, and it may help others even as it is).
Possible problem cause for my initial contacts mess:
https://www.bikegremlin.net/threads/em-client-deduplication-carddav-bug.660/#post-2804
Managed Nextcloud provider peculiarities and prices compared (what I've tested so far):
https://www.bikegremlin.net/threads/nextcloud-providers-compared.663/
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A couple of reactions:
Indeed
Again, for me at least, given that CrossBox are still using/offering Nextcloud 24, I simply don't have much confidence in their managing of Nextcloud. For CrossBox, Nextcloud is a free add-on -- it's not their main product or focus
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)