@Not_Oles said: Maybe it might be nice if the informative Reinstall page could be integrated into the Create New VPS process, replacing the drop down? Thanks for considering!
yeah I was thinking about that, I have some notes, currently when you select an OS it auto sets you to the minimum resources for that OS, what I really need to do though, well not me but TierHive needs to do, is provide some sort of live update on which location can create based on what you select rather than just stopping you after, because thats annoying.
During testing, obviously, we did not have high contention on resources, so that issue never came up.
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First unplanned significant outage today took a UK node but impacted 2 and IPv6 and control panel functions on the entire platform.
Fun way to start a Sunday.
This is why we are in Alpha , and it highlighted some points of fragility with the system, as always, due to scale not matching testing.
The good news is that after the impacted node was power cycled, the mesh rebuilt itself, the firewall rebuilt itself, the TierHive specific services rebuilt themselves, and the hypervisor automatically put itself into 0 priority mode, which for us means you can't create anything on it while it's fixing its own issues.
What failed was that the NAT rebuild hit a race condition due to scale, and so although virtual servers were up they were not reachable, and this also stopped the IPv6 routers from self-configuring fully, which in turn took out all of UK IPv6 on the mesh/tunnels instead of routing through France as intended for the UK if that happens.
So we need to add some timers and lock files to force things to happen in the right order. I am fairly confident that had that been the case, we would have had a full self-repair.
But the worst issue is that we have a bug in the workers' system (We don't use Laravel because urgh.. Laravel, but borrowed some principles) if a hypervisor is down for long enough, it can cause a block abd cascade failure so all workers fully time out and even our heartbeat cron cant bring them back to life, the net result is that every function just about in the whole panel does nothing when you click it as an end user, luckily this was only the case for about 30 minutes we think, but thats todays priority instead of sunday things.
But, I am afraid if you clicked reboot 200 times... your VPS is now going to reboot 200 times an hour later.
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@nameserver said: IPv6 has been working, but I couldn't manage to get ports other than 22 to open.
Edit: all ports except 53 is working. Somehow port 53 is blocked.
Update, there is some serious issue with networking. It wasn't port being blocked, it was the VPS unable to reach the ipv6 gateway. Then I tried reinstalling all my VPS, but all of them failed to get an ip, even the internal ipv4 it seems, that I cannot connect to them. The issue is same in all 8 locations, no ipv6 issue in AU since it doesn't have ipv6. Tried opening ticket but support says they cannot reproduce the issue.
@nameserver said: IPv6 has been working, but I couldn't manage to get ports other than 22 to open.
Edit: all ports except 53 is working. Somehow port 53 is blocked.
Update, there is some serious issue with networking. It wasn't port being blocked, it was the VPS unable to reach the ipv6 gateway. Then I tried reinstalling all my VPS, but all of them failed to get an ip, even the internal ipv4 it seems, that I cannot connect to them. The issue is same in all 8 locations, no ipv6 issue in AU since it doesn't have ipv6. Tried opening ticket but support says they cannot reproduce the issue.
In the ticket you opened you showed a screenshot showing your VPS had a 169.254 address so whatever you are doing in your config is what is breaking the network stack. as per my answer in the ticket.
Sorry if you have updated it since there is a backlog with todays outage, there have been no other reports of similar issues and looking at my colleguues admin notes when he first replied, he setup a test VPS on your subnet, checked IPv4, checking IPv6, concluded it was a local user config issue and rmoved it and give you that reply.
I am up to my neck right now but as soon as I am finished I will do the same to validate.
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Last update as it is believed everything is restored 100% now.
The issue that was causing VPS creation to fail or fail to issue an IP correctly was on us. As a result of the outage, we found the reason for the cascade failure and fixed it.
IPv6 worker was impacted in this, so IPs were not being whitelisted, you will need to remove and re-add them from the panel if this is still impacting you.
The UK VPS on the impacted nodes last state was unknown after the forced reboot of the UK node so VPS are all just left in a stopped, you can start them whenever you want.
back to business as usual.
Any more problems please open a ticket.
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I was trying to reinstall using the control panel. Nothing else. Before that I was trying to config IPv6 using the guide provided. Only external software I installed is iptables, so would this be the case?
I was trying to reinstall using the control panel. Nothing else. Before that I was trying to config IPv6 using the guide provided. Only external software I installed is iptables, so would this be the case?
I'll update more details in the ticket.
Thanks for the reply.
probably worth reading my last update here first.
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I was trying to reinstall using the control panel. Nothing else. Before that I was trying to config IPv6 using the guide provided. Only external software I installed is iptables, so would this be the case?
I'll update more details in the ticket.
Thanks for the reply.
probably worth reading my last update here first.
Sorry, didn't see the message as I was sending my reply. Thanks for the help.
My Vint Hill IPv6 also was out. It came back after removing and re-adding the instance's IPv6 address in the Control Panel as advised in the notice seen in the Control Panel[1] for UK instances.
friendly:~# date
Sun May 17 18:03:55 UTC 2026
friendly:~# ping6 -c 2 ipv6.google.com
PING ipv6.google.com (2607:f8b0:4023:1006::66): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4023:1006::66: seq=0 ttl=103 time=546.922 ms
64 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4023:1006::66: seq=1 ttl=103 time=33.393 ms
--- ipv6.google.com ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 33.393/290.157/546.922 ms
friendly:~#
[1] UK Partial Outage
We are aware of the partial outage in the UK. We hope to have this resolved today. Sorry for the inconvenience. - - Update: All issues should not [now?] be 100% resolved, if you created a VPS that is acting strange in the last 6 hours you may need to recreate it, if IPv6 is not working, please remove and re-add the individual address in the panel to re-whitelist them.
Wow! I got a Tierhive instance in KC! Thanks @AnthonySmith!
kc:~# date
Sun May 17 18:44:57 UTC 2026
kc:~# uptime
18:45:00 up 2 min, 0 users, load average: 2.54, 2.00, 0.83
kc:~# uname -a
Linux kc.tommiller.net 6.18.31-0-virt #1-Alpine SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC 2026-05-16 07:00:20 x86_64 Linux
kc:~#
Both IPv4 and IPv6 seem to work. While connected via ssh over IPv4:
kc:~# ping6 -c 2 ipv6.google.com
PING ipv6.google.com (2607:f8b0:4009:80c::200e): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4009:80c::200e: seq=0 ttl=116 time=114.246 ms
64 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4009:80c::200e: seq=1 ttl=116 time=25.106 ms
--- ipv6.google.com ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 25.106/69.676/114.246 ms
kc:~#
We built the ipv6 mesh to be a bit to interdependent so the framework for elastic IPs would be there.
However it does depend on some traffic being active not to make bad decisions with all the noise Ipv6 generates, it's actually now down to 1.3% use and less than 1% of all traffic.
It's at the point I am artificially generating traffic between ipv6 routers to keep the automation from making bad choices.
Starting to feel like I wasted a month of 2 people's time, it's the NetBSD of internet protocols.
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I have been struggling for the past few hours trying to get iptables with ipv6 to work. Setup the same rule to forward ipv6 traffic for port 80, 443 TCP, 53 TCP and UDP, but port 53 never works. I change the port number to something like 5353, works, same setup.
Below are Kansas City TierHive node nench results from running a local copy of nench.sh after apk update, upgrade to Alpine 3.23.4, and with locally installed bash, coreutils, ioping, openssl, and util-linux. The CPU Priority, IOPS Tier, and Network Tier all were set to Medium. A 64 MB swap file also was added.
@Not_Oles said: Is there a good benchmark script which might run on TierHive's Alpine 3.23 256 MB RAM, 1 GB disk VPS?
I would recommend low expectations and human intuition; it takes up no disk space.
@nameserver said: Is port 53 blocked on the network by any chance?
Yes, sorry, I just dont want to deal with amplification attacks, you might know what you are doing, the other 100 people that copy and paste something do not.
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Adding extra capacity to Vint Hill, I will get in touch with @Advin this week to increase capacity in Kansas, as it's running like shit now; he replied to my last request, and I missed his reply.
Vint Hill is also getting HDD capacity so cheap HDD will be available in the USA as well as a backup target becoming available outside of london, I plan to do the same in Singapore.
No one uses Australia... someone in Australia please tell me why
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@nameserver said: Is port 53 blocked on the network by any chance?
Yes, sorry, I just dont want to deal with amplification attacks, you might know what you are doing, the other 100 people that copy and paste something do not.
Ahh. Spent the whole weekend trying to figure out why my port forwarding was not working. Also just to let you know that in FR port 53 is not blocked.
with all the noise Ipv6 generates, it's actually now down to 1.3% use and less than 1% of all traffic.
It's at the point I am artificially generating traffic between ipv6 routers to keep the automation from making bad choices.
Starting to feel like I wasted a month of 2 people's time, it's the NetBSD of internet protocols.
Thanks for mentioning NetBSD! I'm still confused about how best to install NetBSD on TierHive. Meanwhile, IPv6 is working on tiny TierHive Alpine VPSes, and, maybe, their small use of IPv6 will help TierHive's IPv6 automation keep out of trouble.
IPv6 should be a lot more stable now. We also added a consistency cron for ipv6 just in case, its been running a few hours now since we put the fixes in place, and no more issues have been detected or fixes required.
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I've just found this out, really awesome project! Definitely giving it a try.
Am I being thick or is there no way to add slow (HDD) storage when creating a VPS?
@luis said:
I've just found this out, really awesome project! Definitely giving it a try.
Am I being thick or is there no way to add slow (HDD) storage when creating a VPS?
No sorry it was disabled, try again, pick London (only location with HDD capacity right now)
Should be adding USA storage later today or tomorrow.
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@luis said:
I've just found this out, really awesome project! Definitely giving it a try.
Am I being thick or is there no way to add slow (HDD) storage when creating a VPS?
No sorry it was disabled, try again, pick London (only location with HDD capacity right now)
Should be adding USA storage later today or tomorrow.
I'm just checking out prices at the moment, are you planning to bump these in the future?
2.05$ a month for 2GB RAM / 10GB SSD / 200GB HDD seems quite attractive!
@luis said:
I've just found this out, really awesome project! Definitely giving it a try.
Am I being thick or is there no way to add slow (HDD) storage when creating a VPS?
No sorry it was disabled, try again, pick London (only location with HDD capacity right now)
Should be adding USA storage later today or tomorrow.
I'm just checking out prices at the moment, are you planning to bump these in the future?
2.05$ a month for 2GB RAM / 10GB SSD / 200GB HDD seems quite attractive!
not planning on it no, but you know, the world is a crazy place right now, if our costs increased significantly, we would not have any choice, but the goal is to actually reduce pricing if anything.
The only thing I would add to that is that we are in Alpha, we pretty much guessed at pricing on some things not being able to predict use, so if we have to change prices, we will, if we can reduce them, we will, in the sandpit version, we already charge 50% less for powered-off virtual servers. That will make it into live fairly soon and the only changes we have made so far have been price reductions.
Also some regions are going to be expensive, we may have to add a multiplier for specific locations.
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yeah I was thinking about that, I have some notes, currently when you select an OS it auto sets you to the minimum resources for that OS, what I really need to do though, well not me but TierHive needs to do, is provide some sort of live update on which location can create based on what you select rather than just stopping you after, because thats annoying.
During testing, obviously, we did not have high contention on resources, so that issue never came up.
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First unplanned significant outage today took a UK node but impacted 2 and IPv6 and control panel functions on the entire platform.
Fun way to start a Sunday.
This is why we are in Alpha , and it highlighted some points of fragility with the system, as always, due to scale not matching testing.
The good news is that after the impacted node was power cycled, the mesh rebuilt itself, the firewall rebuilt itself, the TierHive specific services rebuilt themselves, and the hypervisor automatically put itself into 0 priority mode, which for us means you can't create anything on it while it's fixing its own issues.
What failed was that the NAT rebuild hit a race condition due to scale, and so although virtual servers were up they were not reachable, and this also stopped the IPv6 routers from self-configuring fully, which in turn took out all of UK IPv6 on the mesh/tunnels instead of routing through France as intended for the UK if that happens.
So we need to add some timers and lock files to force things to happen in the right order. I am fairly confident that had that been the case, we would have had a full self-repair.
But the worst issue is that we have a bug in the workers' system (We don't use Laravel because urgh.. Laravel, but borrowed some principles) if a hypervisor is down for long enough, it can cause a block abd cascade failure so all workers fully time out and even our heartbeat cron cant bring them back to life, the net result is that every function just about in the whole panel does nothing when you click it as an end user, luckily this was only the case for about 30 minutes we think, but thats todays priority instead of sunday things.
But, I am afraid if you clicked reboot 200 times... your VPS is now going to reboot 200 times an hour later.
Normal service will be resumed asap.
Remember... ALPHA
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Update, there is some serious issue with networking. It wasn't port being blocked, it was the VPS unable to reach the ipv6 gateway. Then I tried reinstalling all my VPS, but all of them failed to get an ip, even the internal ipv4 it seems, that I cannot connect to them. The issue is same in all 8 locations, no ipv6 issue in AU since it doesn't have ipv6. Tried opening ticket but support says they cannot reproduce the issue.
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In the ticket you opened you showed a screenshot showing your VPS had a 169.254 address so whatever you are doing in your config is what is breaking the network stack. as per my answer in the ticket.
Sorry if you have updated it since there is a backlog with todays outage, there have been no other reports of similar issues and looking at my colleguues admin notes when he first replied, he setup a test VPS on your subnet, checked IPv4, checking IPv6, concluded it was a local user config issue and rmoved it and give you that reply.
I am up to my neck right now but as soon as I am finished I will do the same to validate.
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Last update as it is believed everything is restored 100% now.
The issue that was causing VPS creation to fail or fail to issue an IP correctly was on us. As a result of the outage, we found the reason for the cascade failure and fixed it.
IPv6 worker was impacted in this, so IPs were not being whitelisted, you will need to remove and re-add them from the panel if this is still impacting you.
The UK VPS on the impacted nodes last state was unknown after the forced reboot of the UK node so VPS are all just left in a stopped, you can start them whenever you want.
back to business as usual.
Any more problems please open a ticket.
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I was trying to reinstall using the control panel. Nothing else. Before that I was trying to config IPv6 using the guide provided. Only external software I installed is iptables, so would this be the case?
I'll update more details in the ticket.
Thanks for the reply.
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probably worth reading my last update here first.
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Sorry, didn't see the message as I was sending my reply. Thanks for the help.
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My IPv6 isn't working in Vint Hill.
$ ping 2a11:6c7:2300:9508::1
PING 2a11:6c7:2300:9508::1 (2a11:6c7:2300:9508::1) 56 data bytes
--- 2a11:6c7:2300:9508::1 ping statistics ---
68 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 68615ms
For whatever reason I had to give it a hard reboot. It just would not talk to the gateway anymore.
"It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington
My Vint Hill IPv6 also was out. It came back after removing and re-adding the instance's IPv6 address in the Control Panel as advised in the notice seen in the Control Panel[1] for UK instances.
[1] UK Partial Outage
We are aware of the partial outage in the UK. We hope to have this resolved today. Sorry for the inconvenience. - - Update: All issues should not [now?] be 100% resolved, if you created a VPS that is acting strange in the last 6 hours you may need to recreate it, if IPv6 is not working, please remove and re-add the individual address in the panel to re-whitelist them.
Wow! I got a Tierhive instance in KC! Thanks @AnthonySmith!
Both IPv4 and IPv6 seem to work. While connected via ssh over IPv4:
We built the ipv6 mesh to be a bit to interdependent so the framework for elastic IPs would be there.
However it does depend on some traffic being active not to make bad decisions with all the noise Ipv6 generates, it's actually now down to 1.3% use and less than 1% of all traffic.
It's at the point I am artificially generating traffic between ipv6 routers to keep the automation from making bad choices.
Starting to feel like I wasted a month of 2 people's time, it's the NetBSD of internet protocols.
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Bruh.
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BRB. Gonna pingflood the gateway to keep it open.
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I have been struggling for the past few hours trying to get iptables with ipv6 to work. Setup the same rule to forward ipv6 traffic for port 80, 443 TCP, 53 TCP and UDP, but port 53 never works. I change the port number to something like 5353, works, same setup.
Is port 53 blocked on the network by any chance?
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Is there a good benchmark script which might run on TierHive's Alpine 3.23 256 MB RAM, 1 GB disk VPS?
Perhaps nench ("new bench")?
Below are Kansas City TierHive node nench results from running a local copy of nench.sh after apk update, upgrade to Alpine 3.23.4, and with locally installed bash, coreutils, ioping, openssl, and util-linux. The CPU Priority, IOPS Tier, and Network Tier all were set to Medium. A 64 MB swap file also was added.
I would recommend low expectations and human intuition; it takes up no disk space.
Yes, sorry, I just dont want to deal with amplification attacks, you might know what you are doing, the other 100 people that copy and paste something do not.
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Adding extra capacity to Vint Hill, I will get in touch with @Advin this week to increase capacity in Kansas, as it's running like shit now; he replied to my last request, and I missed his reply.
Vint Hill is also getting HDD capacity so cheap HDD will be available in the USA as well as a backup target becoming available outside of london, I plan to do the same in Singapore.
No one uses Australia... someone in Australia please tell me why
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IPv6 bug found, it should be more stable (and self-healing) within the next day or so, testing is ongoing in the sandpit now
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Ahh. Spent the whole weekend trying to figure out why my port forwarding was not working. Also just to let you know that in FR port 53 is not blocked.
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Thanks @AnthonySmith! I replaced[1] nench.sh's no-longer available Softlayer 4 and 6 speed tests with Hetzner in Ashburn.
Here is another run:
[1]
Thanks for mentioning NetBSD! I'm still confused about how best to install NetBSD on TierHive. Meanwhile, IPv6 is working on tiny TierHive Alpine VPSes, and, maybe, their small use of IPv6 will help TierHive's IPv6 automation keep out of trouble.
Always best wishes! And Thanks!
Basically
vesa 0x101) and boot into NetBSD (boot netbsd)No idea why that vesa mode setting is needed on TierHive (never seen this issue on other VPSes)
IPv6 should be a lot more stable now. We also added a consistency cron for ipv6 just in case, its been running a few hours now since we put the fixes in place, and no more issues have been detected or fixes required.
Thanks for the patience and reports.
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I've just found this out, really awesome project! Definitely giving it a try.
Am I being thick or is there no way to add slow (HDD) storage when creating a VPS?
No sorry it was disabled, try again, pick London (only location with HDD capacity right now)
Should be adding USA storage later today or tomorrow.
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I'm just checking out prices at the moment, are you planning to bump these in the future?
2.05$ a month for 2GB RAM / 10GB SSD / 200GB HDD seems quite attractive!
not planning on it no, but you know, the world is a crazy place right now, if our costs increased significantly, we would not have any choice, but the goal is to actually reduce pricing if anything.
The only thing I would add to that is that we are in Alpha, we pretty much guessed at pricing on some things not being able to predict use, so if we have to change prices, we will, if we can reduce them, we will, in the sandpit version, we already charge 50% less for powered-off virtual servers. That will make it into live fairly soon and the only changes we have made so far have been price reductions.
Also some regions are going to be expensive, we may have to add a multiplier for specific locations.
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Friendly greetings!
Here's the netboot.xyz rescue system loaded at TierHIve:
Here is what is shown after clicking BSD installs . . . some BSDs might seem to be missing? Where is NetBSD? Thanks!
https://github.com/netbootxyz/netboot.xyz/issues/1437