I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.
However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded
Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.
Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?
DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?
Update:
I managed to break into the iPXE shell via VNC using Ctrl+B and manually configured the network settings using my NAT details, but I am still getting a timeout.
Here is exactly what I entered:
Plaintext
set net0/ip 10.6.178.2
set net0/netmask 255.255.255.0
set net0/gateway 10.6.178.1
set dns 1.1.1.1
chain --autofree http://boot.netboot.xyz
Even when switching from https:// to http:// to avoid any SSL verification issues, it still ends up with a timeout error. It seems like the iPXE environment on this NAT network simply cannot route outside to the WAN.
I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.
However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded
Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.
Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?
DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?
No
That's the problem then
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I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.
However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded
Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.
Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?
DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?
I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.
However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded
Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.
Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?
DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?
No
That's the problem then
it still doesn't work
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@skorous said:
Can you even netboot.xyz on 128mb of RAM?
yeah but its obviously limited, not everything will work.
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I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.
However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded
Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.
Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?
DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?
@Radi said:
How's the API ongoing? I have a project idea in mind that could make use of it .
API is fine, but it wont be public until we move to beta, probably early 2027 its looking like right now, to many things changing to often to produce reliable documentation right now.
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@AnthonySmith said:
3. I move you to a node that supports slow storage, haproxy will work anyway on the mesh on the existing IP.
4. Pop a ticket in and we will come up with something else
Not a big deal. I don't really need any more 'fast' space, I could probably even downgrade to 5GB there; I was just considering future and paring down one of my 3 VPS eventually. I might just queue up the local backup which would handle most of my concern anyway. I just have a few GB of data that I still hold onto- for now.
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@AnthonySmith said:
3. I move you to a node that supports slow storage, haproxy will work anyway on the mesh on the existing IP.
4. Pop a ticket in and we will come up with something else
Not a big deal. I don't really need any more 'fast' space, I could probably even downgrade to 5GB there; I was just considering future and paring down one of my 3 VPS eventually. I might just queue up the local backup which would handle most of my concern anyway. I just have a few GB of data that I still hold onto- for now.
Well if it gets to be a pain just open a ticket I will sort something.
I guess it's technically possible to just backup, delete, create with HDD using the same ip, then restore.
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@xms said: will there be a metadata endpoint support? it will really help with some recipes.
Yes at some point, but honestly not soon.
@xms said: also will there be IPv6 subnet support? at least /80 similar to AWS. Assigning 1 IP is a IPv4 thing.
We will likely never blindly route a full subnet to a single VPS, due to the many attack vectors that, because of the operating model, we cannot mitigate, it also makes the longer-term plan of having elastic IPv6 near impossible, so we do have a /64 per location per customer and you will need to whitelist the IPs you want to use.
If you have a widely used and practical use for an entire routed subnet to a small VPS I am not considering, I will discuss it with the guys, we dont get everything right and ignoring customers is not helpful
The experience so far is that <2% of customers want IPv6, and about 50% of those literally have no idea how to even configure it.
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@AnthonySmith said: If you have a widely used and practical use for an entire routed subnet to a small VPS I am not considering, I will discuss it with the guys, we dont get everything right and ignoring customers is not helpful
My use case is for docker containers.
No worries though, in current state I can use 1 vm for 1 container in host mode for now.
@AnthonySmith said: If you have a widely used and practical use for an entire routed subnet to a small VPS I am not considering, I will discuss it with the guys, we dont get everything right and ignoring customers is not helpful
My use case is for docker containers.
No worries though, in current state I can use 1 vm for 1 container in host mode for now.
I avoid docker like a rash, so maybe I am missing something, why does a routed subnet help?
I guess so you can have externally routed individual containers and assign locally instead of having to worry about manually issuing an IPv6 address?
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@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).
I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.
I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.
I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics
Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!
@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).
I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.
I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.
I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics
Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!
I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.
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@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).
I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.
I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.
I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics
Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!
I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.
😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!
@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).
I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.
I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.
I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics
Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!
I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.
😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!
He is pretty quiet and antisocial, likes to walk in back lanes, happy in his own silence, you know, a nerd.
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Hopefully, the first version of this launches tomorrow.
It has truly pushed the limits of my patience.
Free tier for life to anyone who has ever made a payment. I will find some way to grandfather that in. Right now, there are only 2 plans: free and paid. Paid is $0.000040 /hr per 100mb, up to 10,000 files, 1GB data, 100 domains, 100 zones.
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@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).
I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.
I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.
I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics
Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!
I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.
😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!
Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.
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Update:
I managed to break into the iPXE shell via VNC using Ctrl+B and manually configured the network settings using my NAT details, but I am still getting a timeout.
Here is exactly what I entered:
Plaintext
set net0/ip 10.6.178.2
set net0/netmask 255.255.255.0
set net0/gateway 10.6.178.1
set dns 1.1.1.1
chain --autofree http://boot.netboot.xyz
Even when switching from https:// to http:// to avoid any SSL verification issues, it still ends up with a timeout error. It seems like the iPXE environment on this NAT network simply cannot route outside to the WAN.
That's the problem then
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it still doesn't work
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Can you even netboot.xyz on 128mb of RAM?
yeah but its obviously limited, not everything will work.
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Thank you
How's the API ongoing? I have a project idea in mind that could make use of it
.
Get some hosting at https://drserver.net .
API is fine, but it wont be public until we move to beta, probably early 2027 its looking like right now, to many things changing to often to produce reliable documentation right now.
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Devuan works fine, but the limited RAM installer is really buggy. It doesn't like to load most filesystems. Probably hasn't been tested in years.
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Additional capacity added in Kansas, thanks again to @Advin for making this possible.
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Kansas network speed has been boosted (upgrade then downgrade or the other way around network to take advantage).
Hillsboro Oregon (West coast) will release in a few hours
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Do I need to spin up a new instance to alter Vint Hill? I wanted to add some HDD for a backup cron and it isn't showing that option.
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When South West?
Free NAT KVM | Free NAT LXC
Couple of options.
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Not a big deal. I don't really need any more 'fast' space, I could probably even downgrade to 5GB there; I was just considering future and paring down one of my 3 VPS eventually. I might just queue up the local backup which would handle most of my concern anyway. I just have a few GB of data that I still hold onto- for now.
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Well if it gets to be a pain just open a ticket I will sort something.
I guess it's technically possible to just backup, delete, create with HDD using the same ip, then restore.
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Mexico?
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Phoenix, please. 😃
will there be a metadata endpoint support? it will really help with some recipes.
also will there be IPv6 subnet support? at least /80 similar to AWS. Assigning 1 IP is a IPv4 thing.
Yes at some point, but honestly not soon.
We will likely never blindly route a full subnet to a single VPS, due to the many attack vectors that, because of the operating model, we cannot mitigate, it also makes the longer-term plan of having elastic IPv6 near impossible, so we do have a /64 per location per customer and you will need to whitelist the IPs you want to use.
If you have a widely used and practical use for an entire routed subnet to a small VPS I am not considering, I will discuss it with the guys, we dont get everything right and ignoring customers is not helpful
The experience so far is that <2% of customers want IPv6, and about 50% of those literally have no idea how to even configure it.
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My use case is for docker containers.
No worries though, in current state I can use 1 vm for 1 container in host mode for now.
I avoid docker like a rash, so maybe I am missing something, why does a routed subnet help?
I guess so you can have externally routed individual containers and assign locally instead of having to worry about manually issuing an IPv6 address?
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"It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington
Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!
I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.
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😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!
He is pretty quiet and antisocial, likes to walk in back lanes, happy in his own silence, you know, a nerd.
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Hopefully, the first version of this launches tomorrow.
It has truly pushed the limits of my patience.
Free tier for life to anyone who has ever made a payment. I will find some way to grandfather that in. Right now, there are only 2 plans: free and paid. Paid is $0.000040 /hr per 100mb, up to 10,000 files, 1GB data, 100 domains, 100 zones.
Free is limited to 3 locations per Zone and 25MB
Will be fun to see how people break it.
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Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.
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