LES v2 - last update before it goes live

mikho · July 20

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

AnthonySmith · July 20

@mikho said:
Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Damn it, why do I remember that name?

havoc · July 20

@AnthonySmith said: 70% is north america based, so I am thinking the best option is to look for East Side USA

I vote Santa Cruz das Flores.

MikeA · July 20

@havoc said:

@AnthonySmith said: 70% is north america based, so I am thinking the best option is to look for East Side USA

I vote Santa Cruz das Flores.

Bermuda is a better option!

AnthonySmith · July 20

@havoc said:

@AnthonySmith said: 70% is north america based, so I am thinking the best option is to look for East Side USA

I vote Santa Cruz das Flores.

Haha I think the yes theory guys went there, looks cool. Agreed.

yoursunny · July 20

@AnthonySmith said:
Dartnode looked like a good option, but I can't see where the "USA East" region covers and when I am being offered not 1 but 2 EOL Debian distributions and no stable ones during checkout, I back out. Nothing personal again, just a line I have.

Welcome to Daniel fan club.
For the US EAST region, Daniel will setup your machines at Orlando FL, home of the E.T. Adventure.
If you choose a VPS, we are sure you'll enjoy 5 IOPS.
If you choose a dedicated server, you'll experience weeks-long ticket reply time when Daniel escorts E.T. to the Green Planet.

stupidgenius · July 20

@AnthonySmith said: Dartnode looked like a good option, but I can't see where the "USA East" region covers and when I am being offered not 1 but 2 EOL Debian distributions and no stable ones during checkout, I back out. Nothing personal again, just a line I have.

US East = Orlando, FL.
Not defending them, because it seems like their support is lacking judging by the thread on the other site. I asked them about adding Debian 13 and they said they put a ticket in for their engineering to look at it. (over a month ago) However, they do support custom ISO mounting in their panel

AnthonySmith · July 20

@stupidgenius said:

@AnthonySmith said: Dartnode looked like a good option, but I can't see where the "USA East" region covers and when I am being offered not 1 but 2 EOL Debian distributions and no stable ones during checkout, I back out. Nothing personal again, just a line I have.

US East = Orlando, FL.
Not defending them, because it seems like their support is lacking judging by the thread on the other site. I asked them about adding Debian 13 and they said they put a ticket in for their engineering to look at it. (over a month ago) However, they do support custom ISO mounting in their panel

Thanks, probably wouldn't have worked out.

To be honest one of the things I am looking forward too is full end to end provider reviews, the thing that built lowendtalk to begin with before the corruption and rot took over.

It's things like this that will be captured and covered

I have been reaching out to a lot of hosts recently and to be honest if they can't reply within 24 hours Monday to Friday, I am just not interested.

TierHive can, and we don't even do that full time, and we outright say it's hobby grade and not enterprise, there is no excuse for a small independent host to take more than a day to answer anything, maybe a very few exceptions, certainly not as standard, I just can't take you seriously as a business.

Not aimed at anyone in particular, it just seems that standards have seriously dropped in recent years while prices have gone up ... I don't understand.

MikeA · 1:04AM

@AnthonySmith said: Not aimed at anyone in particular, it just seems that standards have seriously dropped in recent years while prices have gone up ... I don't understand.

Yep...

somik · 1:08AM

Not sure why no one mentioned it but @AnthonySmith, have you considered CC? I hear they are pretty good

jaden · 1:21AM

GreenCloud has some lowend options in Ashburn, although they're not in stock at the moment. Support often responds to tickets in less than a minute. For North America I've had good experiences with HostBilby, Onidel, ServaRica and PureVoltage. It's hard to beat the prices of ServaRica but performance is a little weak. The others sometimes have deals that make a big difference in cost. I would imagine they'd be willing to make a deal for LES.

skorous · 1:41AM

@jaden said:
For North America I've had good experiences with HostBilby, Onidel, ServaRica and PureVoltage.

I can second HostBilby. I've also been very happy with them so far.

Fritz · 2:49AM

Is it based on Vanilla?

Wonder_Woman · 3:33AM

@skorous said:

@jaden said:
For North America I've had good experiences with HostBilby, Onidel, ServaRica and PureVoltage.

I can second HostBilby. I've also been very happy with them so far.

Third for @bingobangobongo

imok · 4:18AM

@Wonder_Woman said:

@skorous said:

@jaden said:
For North America I've had good experiences with HostBilby, Onidel, ServaRica and PureVoltage.

I can second HostBilby. I've also been very happy with them so far.

Third for @bingobangobongo

Where are the deals?

daman · 4:58AM

VPSDime from @serverian ?

stupidgenius · 5:08AM

@jaden said: GreenCloud has some lowend options in Ashburn

They also have some options in NYC https://greencloudvps.com/billing/store/budget-kvm-sale

bikegremlin · 6:34AM

Heard nothing but praise about Knownhost.

Using and swearing by MDDHosting. Their shared hosting is superfast/powerful - worth considering too, besides VPS.

AnthonySmith · 7:28AM

Some good suggestions and reminders of names I had forgotten, thanks all.

AnthonySmith · 7:30AM

@Fritz said:
Is it based on Vanilla?

Yep, codebase updated for PHP 8.4

somik · 8:02AM

@AnthonySmith said:

@Fritz said:
Is it based on Vanilla?

Yep, codebase updated for PHP 8.4

Updated with AI?

Amadex · 8:16AM

If you like Italy, you can co-exist with root.hr on our dedicated server for free.

Otherwise https://www.ionos.com/servers/vps

quicksilver03 · 8:19AM

I've found Clouvider in Ashburn to provide a good service, the network was faster and more stable than other providers in that area.

AnthonySmith · 8:23AM

@somik said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Fritz said:
Is it based on Vanilla?

Yep, codebase updated for PHP 8.4

Updated with AI?

No, as per my previous updates, the amount of updates needed to make vanilla php 8.4 compatible is next to nothing.

I commented that I expected that to be the hard part, I budgeted a few weeks, it took a few hours, if that, its crazy to me that they have not made compatibility updates for the latest open source version, they are letting the platform die in the open source space in favour of commercial hosting, and I think they shot themselves in the foot. they built a narrative that vanilla is dead, and it just needed a mild painkiller.

Many of the plugins are done with AI to functional standards, then passed for code review to a human with a Dev who laughs a bit, and corrects, secures, patches stuff up, then it's back to me to redo functional testing.

Since fable released though... There has been less laughing...

That's why it's taking a while but at least I am confident in it when it goes live.

david3 · 10:46AM

@stupidgenius said:

@jaden said: GreenCloud has some lowend options in Ashburn

They also have some options in NYC https://greencloudvps.com/billing/store/budget-kvm-sale

It looks like GreenCloud has some VDS available in New York, also.

Wolveix · 11:38AM

@AnthonySmith said:
Looking for strong recommendations, I was going to put it on quickpacket, but they only do dedicated servers and it feels like LES should really be running on a VPS.

FWIW, QuickPacket have ZenSix for VPS options: https://zensix.com/

AnthonySmith · 12:14PM

@Wolveix said:

@AnthonySmith said:
Looking for strong recommendations, I was going to put it on quickpacket, but they only do dedicated servers and it feels like LES should really be running on a VPS.

FWIW, QuickPacket have ZenSix for VPS options: https://zensix.com/

Oh, i did not realise... why they not advertising?

I dont think 1 core or half a core would really do well for LES, but I am actually doing the server optimisations now as it happens ready to take les v2.

Probably for the short term I will use OVH because it was quick and available (there is a lesson in there for hosts, I guess) but I will move it around as required when the dust settles; the chances of me doing this migration without issues is probably close to 0

somik · 12:28PM

I thought the new LES would be released in a few hours from the time of this thread for some reason...

WSS · 1:10PM

> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

AnthonySmith · 1:30PM

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

LES v2 - last update before it goes live

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