ChatControl and VPS in the EU

I just heard that unfortunately ChatControl is moving forward in the EU. I've also heard about some recent shenanigans by the French government trying to compel GrapheneOS to create a backdoor.

I bought some VPS in the current Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales which are in one of the member states that supported ChatControl.

Will we have to worry about backdoors or loss of privacy in EU VPS in the future?

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  • Time to deploy https://chatmail.at/ to escape ChatControl

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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer

    For well over a decade (at least) the writing's been on the wall.

    • More control and surveilance.
    • Less personal liberties.
    • More power to the state (increased penalties for whatever they can push and similar).

    In most major cities (and soon after even in the countryside) everything we do will be 100% recorded.

    Expect to go to prison before you commit any crime based on algorithm's 99.9999% prediction (with the "if one child can be saved" and similar rhetoric that no one can really oppose without sounding as paranoid as I'm sounding now LOL).

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  • edited December 3

    @lowendmeow said: Will we have to worry about backdoors or loss of privacy in EU VPS in the future?

    Without getting in to politics, the answer is: Yes, to both.

    @risturiz said:
    Time to deploy https://chatmail.at/ to escape ChatControl

    I would avoid Email entirely, if privacy is a huge concern.
    Lots of metadata, even if body of the message is encrypted.

  • havochavoc OGContent WriterSenpai

    Possibly the first real brexit benefit lol

    No that the uk is doing any better on crap laws

  • @treesmokah said:

    @risturiz said:
    Time to deploy https://chatmail.at/ to escape ChatControl

    I would avoid Email entirely, if privacy is a huge concern.
    Lots of metadata, even if body of the message is encrypted.

    Chatmail is the server for Deltachat[1] = end-to-end encryption (E2EE) by default for all messages ( metadata too )

    [1] https://blog.feld.me/posts/2025/03/deltachat-is-actually-good-though/

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  • AlyxAlyx Hosting Provider

    All legislation in this context targets platform operators, not hosting providers. There's no immediate need to migrate your EU infrastructure.

    That said, given the current political climate, both in the EU and globally, it may be worth considering alternative locations as part of a long-term strategy (3-5 years out). The challenge is that few countries maintain both a strong pro-privacy stance and a stable political outlook for the foreseeable future.
    Iceland would come to my mind, but as an EEA member, it's unclear how insulated it would be from EU regulatory changes.
    Not to mention that it probably would get under a lot of political pressure if it becomes the location to evade international regulations.

    The best way to go is probably to ensure that your services implement proper E2EE. So you don't need to worry too much regardless of how regional legislation evolves.

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