ChatControl and VPS in the EU

lowendmeow

I just heard that unfortunately ChatControl is moving forward in the EU. I've also heard about some recent shenanigans by the French government trying to compel GrapheneOS to create a backdoor.

I bought some VPS in the current Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales which are in one of the member states that supported ChatControl.

Will we have to worry about backdoors or loss of privacy in EU VPS in the future?

risturiz

Time to deploy https://chatmail.at/ to escape ChatControl

bikegremlin

For well over a decade (at least) the writing's been on the wall.

• More control and surveilance.
• Less personal liberties.
• More power to the state (increased penalties for whatever they can push and similar).

In most major cities (and soon after even in the countryside) everything we do will be 100% recorded.

Expect to go to prison before you commit any crime based on algorithm's 99.9999% prediction (with the "if one child can be saved" and similar rhetoric that no one can really oppose without sounding as paranoid as I'm sounding now LOL).

treesmokah

@lowendmeow said: Will we have to worry about backdoors or loss of privacy in EU VPS in the future?

Without getting in to politics, the answer is: Yes, to both.

@risturiz said:
Time to deploy https://chatmail.at/ to escape ChatControl

I would avoid Email entirely, if privacy is a huge concern.
Lots of metadata, even if body of the message is encrypted.

havoc

Possibly the first real brexit benefit lol

No that the uk is doing any better on crap laws

risturiz

@treesmokah said:

@risturiz said:
Time to deploy https://chatmail.at/ to escape ChatControl

I would avoid Email entirely, if privacy is a huge concern.
Lots of metadata, even if body of the message is encrypted.

Chatmail is the server for Deltachat[1] = end-to-end encryption (E2EE) by default for all messages ( metadata too )

[1] https://blog.feld.me/posts/2025/03/deltachat-is-actually-good-though/