What billing system are using and are you ready to pay for development of new one ?

Vlad75 · August 2023

Hi,

I am working at Bulgarian hosting company and we are using Hostbill for last couple of years for billing system, but it has a lot of bugs that we have to fight. Before that we have tried with Blesta and WHMCS, but with the same result. Could you please share what type you are using and if you think is reasonable to try to develop billing system on your own ? Thanks in advance for suggestions and advices !

webcraft · August 2023

If every billing system you've tried has bugs, what makes you think that a new billing system you're developing won't have bugs?

I'm using Blesta and WHMCS, both are good and they're quick at fixing bugs. Also, both have many 3rd party integrations which is a bonus compared to other solutions.

Chievo · August 2023

@Vlad75 said:
Hi,

I am working at Bulgarian hosting company and we are using Hostbill for last couple of years for billing system, but it has a lot of bugs that we have to fight. Before that we have tried with Blesta and WHMCS, but with the same result. Could you please share what type you are using and if you think is reasonable to try to develop billing system on your own ? Thanks in advance for suggestions and advices !

Go for it. Finish the project and offer it as open source without bugs

FrankZ · August 2023

@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Chievo · August 2023

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Jord · August 2023

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

crunchbits · August 2023

@Jord said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

You have a billing software solution?

Chievo · August 2023

@Jord said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

For 12 euros monthly . 24 bulgarian leva not cost the work to develop once again the wheel

Jord · August 2023

@crunchbits said:

@Jord said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

You have a billing software solution?

Yes, and it's not for you. You are too prem and need that WHMCS FIX, oh wait

Jord · August 2023

@Chievo said:

@Jord said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

For 12 euros monthly . 24 bulgarian leva not cost the work to develop once again the wheel

Hey now, redeveloping the wheel is fun

Chievo · August 2023

@Jord said:

@Chievo said:

@Jord said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

For 12 euros monthly . 24 bulgarian leva not cost the work to develop once again the wheel

Hey now, redeveloping the wheel is fun

Hahahaha for 12 euros monthly meh. Go for your service Better living without creating another solution. By the way which is harder hipaa or pci compliance???

Jord · August 2023

@Chievo said:

@Jord said:

@Chievo said:

@Jord said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

For 12 euros monthly . 24 bulgarian leva not cost the work to develop once again the wheel

Hey now, redeveloping the wheel is fun

Hahahaha for 12 euros monthly meh. Go for your service Better living without creating another solution. By the way which is harder hipaa or pci compliance???

Both equally shit, I do love a good SAQ questionnaire though, got to love those 450+ questions, hmmmmm.

FrankZ · August 2023

@Chievo said: For 12 euros monthly . 24 bulgarian leva not cost the work to develop once again the wheel

Radi · August 2023

Hi,

Out of curiosity which host do you work for in Bulgaria?

Chievo · August 2023

@Jord said:

@Chievo said:

@Jord said:

@Chievo said:

@Jord said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

Thank you for the mention

@Chievo said:

@FrankZ said:
@Jord has https://www.billingserv.com/

It is prem

Why thank you sir

Nothing is bug free; there will always be something that decides to break 4 years after you've built it; it's the nature of the beast. Billing is no joke when it comes to building a solution, it takes years to get right, and it's very complex sometimes if you need a lot of custom features. Then taxes are another headache, get that wrong and well might as well throw in the towel then all the APIs needed, PCI Compliance and so on.

I hope I haven't put you off building your own solution

For 12 euros monthly . 24 bulgarian leva not cost the work to develop once again the wheel

Hey now, redeveloping the wheel is fun

Hahahaha for 12 euros monthly meh. Go for your service Better living without creating another solution. By the way which is harder hipaa or pci compliance???

Both equally shit, I do love a good SAQ questionnaire though, got to love those 450+ questions, hmmmmm.

450 questions and old lady over you . Asking you the next question meanwhile a monkey is doing some acrobatic work in front of you

Chievo · August 2023

@Radi said:
Hi,

Out of curiosity which host do you work for in Bulgaria?

cociu????

Radi · August 2023

@Chievo said:

@Radi said:
Hi,

Out of curiosity which host do you work for in Bulgaria?

cociu????

Doesn't seem like it, but there aren't much providers in Bulgaria using HostBill. I am genuinely curious.

Chievo · August 2023

@Radi said:

@Chievo said:

@Radi said:
Hi,

Out of curiosity which host do you work for in Bulgaria?

cociu????

Doesn't seem like it, but there aren't much providers in Bulgaria using HostBill. I am genuinely curious.

Fastcomet?

Chievo · August 2023

@Radi said:

@Chievo said:

@Radi said:
Hi,

Out of curiosity which host do you work for in Bulgaria?

cociu????

Doesn't seem like it, but there aren't much providers in Bulgaria using HostBill. I am genuinely curious.

Byteopt . com it seems . Sofia

Kian · August 2023

@Vlad75 said:
Hi,

I am working at Bulgarian hosting company and we are using Hostbill for last couple of years for billing system, but it has a lot of bugs that we have to fight. Before that we have tried with Blesta and WHMCS, but with the same result. Could you please share what type you are using and if you think is reasonable to try to develop billing system on your own ? Thanks in advance for suggestions and advices !

Currently using Upmind but thinking to switch to WHMCS. And also we are developing our own billing system but it will take much time because we don't have a big team. I suggest that its fine TO devlop own if you have huge customers or your needs are bigger otherwise its fine to stick with whmcs or any another.

Neoon · August 2023

Every software has bugs, end of story.
If you are unhappy, then go develop your own.

bikegremlin · August 2023

@Vlad75 said:
Hi,

I am working at Bulgarian hosting company and we are using Hostbill for last couple of years for billing system, but it has a lot of bugs that we have to fight. Before that we have tried with Blesta and WHMCS, but with the same result. Could you please share what type you are using and if you think is reasonable to try to develop billing system on your own ? Thanks in advance for suggestions and advices !

What kinds of problems were you having with Blesta?
As far as I can tell, unlike WHMCS, Blesta folks do listen to customers and solve reported problems every now and then.

HostShark · August 2023

I am still using WHMCS for over 10 years now. Can't switch. I am so used to it. If WHMAutoPilot were still around I would be using it. Unfortunately, times have changed. Boy do I miss the old days.

AuroraZero · August 2023

My next one will be Clientexec and most probably will be live in the next two weeks.

Blesta just too much for my needs and the same for WHMCS. I just need it to create invoices and make small servers nothing more or less.

covent · August 2023

@Neoon said:
Every software has bugs, end of story.
If you are unhappy, then go develop your own.

Agree. Design, software or any form of creativity, all is relative and details are flawed from someone's perspective

yokowasis · August 2023

I develop my own billing system.

@Neoon said:
Every software has bugs, end of story.
If you are unhappy, then go develop your own.

This is the reason. Even tough bug do appear, at least you know how to fix it.

yoursunny · August 2023

I delete the billing system and make everything free.
No more bugs, no more headaches, no more chargebacks.

bikegremlin · August 2023

Edit - the source (a good article):
https://katamaze.com/blog/54/avoid-whmcs-blesta-hostbill-clientexec-ubersmith-hosting

Mawtsi · August 2023

Ive been using hostbill for 3 years now and any bugs I've found have been fixed rather quickly after opening a ticket and reporting them. Admittedly reporting to their issue tracker form I didn't get a reply but after opening a ticket it was fixed in the next update and my ticket got refunded.

chris · August 2023

I use Blesta and whmcs. Blesta is by far my favourite and I have less headaches with it

What billing system are using and are you ready to pay for development of new one ?

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