he.net domain gone from nameservers

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$ host -t ns he.net
Host he.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

No longer delegated from .net nameservers.

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  • mikewazarmikewazar OG

    amazing news

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  • DataRecoveryDataRecovery OG

    he.net domain gone

    Like A Hurricane - Chris Hillman

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny OG
    edited July 4

    WHOIS he.net

    Domain Name: HE.NET
Registry Domain ID: 486609_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Registrar URL: http://networksolutions.com
Updated Date: 2024-07-04T15:07:09Z
Creation Date: 1995-07-31T04:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2033-07-30T04:00:00Z
Registrar: Network Solutions, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 2
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientHold https://icann.org/epp#clientHold
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited

    clientHold

    This status code tells your domain's registry to not activate your domain in the DNS and as a consequence, it will not resolve. It is an uncommon status that is usually enacted during legal disputes, non-payment, or when your domain is subject to deletion.

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  • JDMcPeaJDMcPea

    He had it coming?

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  • treesmokahtreesmokah

    owned. Fuck around and find out, outplayed in their own game.
    https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-July/225901.html

    Network Solutions has decided to put our domain name on Client Hold due to
    a single phishing complaint about a web page, which happens to just be a
    page of information about another domain from bgp.he.net. Network Solutions
    has been contacted, and refuses to handle this issue in ANY expedited
    manner. Executives from Hurricane have been calling and emailing Network
    Solutions for HOURS trying to have this addressed. If anyone has an
    escalation contact at Network Solutions, please email it to me at
    redhead at lightning.net, or rfishler at he.net. Thanks.

    Reid Fishler
    Sr Director
    Hurricane Electric

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  • skhronskhron Hosting Provider

    @treesmokah said: outplayed in their own game

    What do you mean? Is it something KF related?

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  • treesmokahtreesmokah
    edited July 4

    @skhron said:

    @treesmokah said: outplayed in their own game

    What do you mean? Is it something KF related?

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/internet-not-facebook-why-infrastructure-providers-should-stay-out-content
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/isps-should-not-police-online-speech-no-matter-how-awful-it
    Many such cases. I hope they enjoy 4th of July and maybe read the constitution.

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    @treesmokah said: Many such cases

    Am I blind or the entire article is about that attitude in general, and the only "real-life" case is KF?

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  • treesmokahtreesmokah

    @skhron said:

    @treesmokah said: Many such cases

    Am I blind or the entire article is about that attitude in general, and the only "real-life" case is KF?

    KF is for sure not the only one who had to face de-peering etc.
    These articles don't mention other cases.

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  • skhronskhron Hosting Provider
    edited July 4

    @treesmokah said: KF is for sure not the only one who had to face de-peering etc.
    These articles don't mention other cases.

    I would like to know more about HE and their depeering cases not related to KF, if you would find them feel free to reach me via DM here or using email serhii.timofieiev at skhron.com.ua

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny OG

    Just as I'm about to move the authoritative nameserver for an internal domain, HE.NET is no longer in clientHold status.
    All is good now, I hope?

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  • TheDPTheDP OG

    @yoursunny said:
    Just as I'm about to move the authoritative nameserver for an internal domain, HE.NET is no longer in clientHold status.
    All is good now, I hope?

    Should be, yeah.

    They were out for about 4 hours I heard.

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  • AmadexAmadex Hosting Provider

    Time to transfer out the domain

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  • LowEndLowEnd

    Their IANA ID is literally 2.

    You'd think they would know what they are doing by now.

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  • AuroraZeroAuroraZero ModeratorHosting Provider

    @LowEnd said: You'd think they would know what they are doing by now.

    One might think that of the U.S. DOD as well, but apparently they don't!

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  • bdlbdl OG

    hehe

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    Looks like they were able to get ahold of someone and get it unsuspended https://community.nanog.org/t/he-net-problem/59634/15

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  • rcy026rcy026

    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

  • JosephJoseph

    @LowEnd said:
    Their IANA ID is literally 2.

    You'd think they would know what they are doing by now.

    Network Solutions is the original, monopoly, registrar.

  • JosephJoseph

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

  • JanevskiJanevski OG
    edited July 5

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  • NyrNyr OG

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    Providing NS records under different registries is becoming an industry standard. But it really wasn't when they started, plus the service is provided at no cost for everyone, so it is difficult to complain.

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  • DataRecoveryDataRecovery OG

    @Nyr said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    Providing NS records under different registries is becoming an industry standard. But it really wasn't when they started, plus the service is provided at no cost for everyone, so it is difficult to complain.

    He.net also owns lightning.net domain:
    lightning.net: he.net domain
    It uses its subdomains as nameservers and registered with other registrar.

    However I don't think there's any way for the clients to use it.

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  • JosephJoseph

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Nyr said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    Providing NS records under different registries is becoming an industry standard. But it really wasn't when they started, plus the service is provided at no cost for everyone, so it is difficult to complain.

    He.net also owns lightning.net domain:
    lightning.net: he.net domain
    It uses its subdomains as nameservers and registered with other registrar.

    However I don't think there's any way for the clients to use it.

    Where does HE use the lightning.net domain for NS?

  • DataRecoveryDataRecovery OG

    @Joseph said:

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Nyr said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    Providing NS records under different registries is becoming an industry standard. But it really wasn't when they started, plus the service is provided at no cost for everyone, so it is difficult to complain.

    He.net also owns lightning.net domain:
    lightning.net: he.net domain
    It uses its subdomains as nameservers and registered with other registrar.

    However I don't think there's any way for the clients to use it.

    Where does HE use the lightning.net domain for NS?

    Whois screenshot above −> second and third rows from the bottom −> Name Server

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  • JosephJoseph

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Joseph said:

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Nyr said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    Providing NS records under different registries is becoming an industry standard. But it really wasn't when they started, plus the service is provided at no cost for everyone, so it is difficult to complain.

    He.net also owns lightning.net domain:
    lightning.net: he.net domain
    It uses its subdomains as nameservers and registered with other registrar.

    However I don't think there's any way for the clients to use it.

    Where does HE use the lightning.net domain for NS?

    Whois screenshot above −> second and third rows from the bottom −> Name Server

    I meant where does HE use the lightning.net NS, other than on the lightning.net domain itself.

  • rcy026rcy026

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    I literally explained it in the post you quoted.

  • JosephJoseph

    @rcy026 said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    I literally explained it in the post you quoted.

    I've read that additional authoritative NS adds some latency. I'm not certain of the veracity of that claim.

  • BrueggusBrueggus OG

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    I literally explained it in the post you quoted.

    I've read that additional authoritative NS adds some latency. I'm not certain of the veracity of that claim.

    Why are you not certain?

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  • JosephJoseph

    @Brueggus said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @Joseph said:

    @rcy026 said:
    I really like he.net, but it does bother me that they are not more resilient.
    I mean, my personal domains that are absolutely non-critical have 6 authoritative servers under 3 different tld's. It costs absolute peanuts and is so easy to setup.

    How would you suggest HE be more resilient?

    I literally explained it in the post you quoted.

    I've read that additional authoritative NS adds some latency. I'm not certain of the veracity of that claim.

    Why are you not certain?

    I'm not up to speed with the technical aspects regarding latency. Does it, in fact, introduce additional latency?

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