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  • feeedfeeed

    @Wonder_Woman said:

    @feeed said:
    Could it be a playfair cypher? https://www.boxentriq.com/code-breaking/playfair-cipher

    The key I'm guessing is related to the italicised words in the original message:

    see one position three five ring a two

    The first something, at the thirty fifth position, something ring a two (interesting they're all spelled out)

    Could be forum post related? Or something hidden on the vps.blackfriday website?

    The italicized words are:
    see one position to three five ring a two

    You're missing the "to", not sure if that's important yet.

    Could be a sequence of shifts, like

    1. "see one position": This might mean to look at the first position.
    2. "to three": This could mean to move to the third position.
    3. "five ring": This might mean to move to the fifth position and then wrap around (ring) back to the start.
    4. "a two": This could mean to move to the second position.

    That definitely changes the message, hmmm

    I on the other hand have been ringing the vps.blackfriday test alert button over and over and getting just lots of dading dadings

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  • emengwebemengweb
    edited December 3 
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    Wow, need some secret code for it...

    Never mind, its gone.

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  • FrankZFrankZ Moderator

    And he is gone again. That was even faster than I expected.

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  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider
    edited December 3

    A few people have noticed very important things about the puzzle, others are way off and would end up wasting an insane amount of time. One of them noticed something that really impressed me that would put you guys a big step ahead if combined with another comment. Of course I won't tell you which comment.

    @FrankZ said: You have the best AI ticket system I've ever seen.

    It's really really cool. I can't wait to enable the feature where the AI can actually take (some) actions. Feels like magic. A lot of times when it says it's going to be doing something, that means it has that ability in the backend but it's just being rejected by default. There's a whole action queueing system.

    "Hey I want to upgrade my service"

    "Did you mean you want to DELETE your account? I've gone ahead and processed this for you. Goodbye."

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  • Wonder_WomanWonder_Woman

    @VirMach said:
    A few people have noticed very important things about the puzzle, others are way off and would end up wasting an insane amount of time. One of them noticed something that really impressed me that would put you guys a big step ahead if combined with another comment. Of course I won't tell you which comment.

    Oh no

  • Wonder_WomanWonder_Woman
    edited December 3

    I'm gambling on the step ahead being the playfair cipher, as I'm starting to think the 5 character "words" in the instructions should be used in a grid

    EDIT: And, as we've previous seen, I'm a glutton for wasting a ton of time on things when it's much simpler than I anticipated.

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  • localhostlocalhost OG

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I'm gambling on the step ahead being the playfair cipher, as I'm starting to think the 5 character "words" in the instructions should be used in a grid

    EDIT: And, as we've previous seen, I'm a glutton for wasting a ton of time on things when it's much simpler than I anticipated.

    but you are our only hope...

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  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I'm gambling on the step ahead being the playfair cipher, as I'm starting to think the 5 character "words" in the instructions should be used in a grid

    EDIT: And, as we've previous seen, I'm a glutton for wasting a ton of time on things when it's much simpler than I anticipated.

    Okay I'm going to step in here because you're probably going to play a pivotal role in this actually being solved if it is solved, and we're already three hours in (and it's not looking good.) It's not the playfair cipher. There are some indirect connections, similarities in purpose. There's a reason for the grouping for both. Both the playfair and the other were used during an important time period.

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  • Wonder_WomanWonder_Woman

    Well that was short lived for @Flying_Chinaman

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  • skorousskorous OG

    Enigma?

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  • user123user123

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    Well that was short lived for @Flying_Chinaman

    :lol:

  • vyasvyas OG

    @localhost said:

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I'm gambling on the step ahead being the playfair cipher, as I'm starting to think the 5 character "words" in the instructions should be used in a grid

    EDIT: And, as we've previous seen, I'm a glutton for wasting a ton of time on things when it's much simpler than I anticipated.

    but you are our only hope...

    Wonder Woman is (also) Obi Won ??

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    i didn't sign up for da vinci code

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  • supermansuperman

    @VirMach said:

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I'm gambling on the step ahead being the playfair cipher, as I'm starting to think the 5 character "words" in the instructions should be used in a grid

    EDIT: And, as we've previous seen, I'm a glutton for wasting a ton of time on things when it's much simpler than I anticipated.

    Okay I'm going to step in here because you're probably going to play a pivotal role in this actually being solved if it is solved, and we're already three hours in (and it's not looking good.) It's not the playfair cipher. There are some indirect connections, similarities in purpose. There's a reason for the grouping for both. Both the playfair and the other were used during an important time period.

    Vigenère cipher?

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  • Wonder_WomanWonder_Woman

    @VirMach said:

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I'm gambling on the step ahead being the playfair cipher, as I'm starting to think the 5 character "words" in the instructions should be used in a grid

    EDIT: And, as we've previous seen, I'm a glutton for wasting a ton of time on things when it's much simpler than I anticipated.

    Okay I'm going to step in here because you're probably going to play a pivotal role in this actually being solved if it is solved, and we're already three hours in (and it's not looking good.) It's not the playfair cipher. There are some indirect connections, similarities in purpose. There's a reason for the grouping for both. Both the playfair and the other were used during an important time period.

    Oh no x2

  • Wonder_WomanWonder_Woman

    @superman said:

    @VirMach said:

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    I'm gambling on the step ahead being the playfair cipher, as I'm starting to think the 5 character "words" in the instructions should be used in a grid

    EDIT: And, as we've previous seen, I'm a glutton for wasting a ton of time on things when it's much simpler than I anticipated.

    Okay I'm going to step in here because you're probably going to play a pivotal role in this actually being solved if it is solved, and we're already three hours in (and it's not looking good.) It's not the playfair cipher. There are some indirect connections, similarities in purpose. There's a reason for the grouping for both. Both the playfair and the other were used during an important time period.

    Vigenère cipher?

    That's what I was thinking previously, but I thought I was the one who wasn't on the right track. Maybe I'm still not...

  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider

    @skorous said:
    Enigma?

    Rare photo of @Wonder_Woman

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  • user123user123

    @skorous said:
    Enigma?

    I'm still playing around with it, but seems the most promising based on nothing but @VirMach's clues lol xD

  • Wonder_WomanWonder_Woman

    @user123 said:

    @skorous said:
    Enigma?

    I'm still playing around with it, but seems the most promising based on nothing but @VirMach's clues lol xD

    Yeah, the "Instructions" do look like output from Enigma Machine, and the emphasized words might line up with rotor and ring settings

  • user123user123

    @Wonder_Woman said:

    @user123 said:

    @skorous said:
    Enigma?

    I'm still playing around with it, but seems the most promising based on nothing but @VirMach's clues lol xD

    Yeah, the "Instructions" do look like output from Enigma Machine, and the emphasized words might line up with rotor and ring settings

    Yeah, it's just that there's a lot of missing information about what lines up where :P

  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider

    Thinking about the differences between a VirMach deal thread and what's going on in the other OGF thread made me chuckle a little bit. "We've doubled your bandwidth!" versus "here's a cipher, you have 10 hours. This WW2 museum photo will help."

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  • vyasvyas OG

    @VirMach said:
    Thinking about the differences between a VirMach deal thread and what's going on in the other OGF thread made me chuckle a little bit. "We've doubled your bandwidth!" versus "here's a cipher, you have 10 hours. This WW2 museum photo will help."

    You can double the timeline to break the cipher

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  • user123user123

    @vyas said:

    @VirMach said:
    Thinking about the differences between a VirMach deal thread and what's going on in the other OGF thread made me chuckle a little bit. "We've doubled your bandwidth!" versus "here's a cipher, you have 10 hours. This WW2 museum photo will help."

    You can double the timeline to break the cipher

    And double the discount and double the clues to break the cipher :P

  • vyasvyas OG

    @user123 said:

    @vyas said:

    @VirMach said:
    Thinking about the differences between a VirMach deal thread and what's going on in the other OGF thread made me chuckle a little bit. "We've doubled your bandwidth!" versus "here's a cipher, you have 10 hours. This WW2 museum photo will help."

    You can double the timeline to break the cipher

    And double the discount and double the clues to break the cipher :P

    Virmach can also double the complexity of the cipher

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  • supermansuperman

    @VirMach said:

    @skorous said:
    Enigma?

    Rare photo of @Wonder_Woman

    https://www.soler7.com/IFAQ/Enigma.htm

    The picture may come from here

  • tuctuc

    The only thing I found is the encryption was done using substitution cipher. However, combination of two different algorithms of this approach makes super hard decrypting.

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  • tuctuc

    It's much harder than reverse engineering a flutter app which was obfuscated :(

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  • FrankZFrankZ Moderator

    @superman said:

    @VirMach said:

    @skorous said:
    Enigma?

    Rare photo of @Wonder_Woman

    https://www.soler7.com/IFAQ/Enigma.htm

    The picture may come from here

    The repetition of the message key was a weakness of the Enigma system and was the starting point of Rejewski's attack. Specifically, there was a relationship between the first and fourth letters of the initial six-letter message, as well as between the 2nd and 5th, and the 3rd and 6th. If he got enough intercepted messages Rejewski could compile a table of correspondences between the first and fourth letters under the current day key, eg the letters abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz would be turned into qaweszxdrtfcvgyuhbnjiokmlp. He would compile similar tables using the 2nd and 5th positions, and the 3rd and 6th. Rejewski looked for patterns in these tables and focused on cycle length. Thus B might be encrypted as G, G as F, F as R and then R as B, completing a cycle of length 5.

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  • feeedfeeed

    Looking at enigma:

    There are some configuration options for the decoder:

    Rotors ⚙ (from left to right) (Walzenlage)
    Reflector ⇄ (UmKehrWalze)
    Positions of rings ∘ (Ringstellung)
    Positions of rotors ⌖ (Grundstellung)
    Connections pairs (Steckerverbindungen)

    Trying various combinations, and guessing stuff, but it's really a stretch

    see one position to three five ring a two

    Rotors: "see" = C?
    Positions of rotors: "position to" = 5, 5, 5? 2, 3, 5?
    Position of rings: "ring a" = A?

  • FrankZFrankZ Moderator
    edited December 3

    So I am thinking the comment

    You'll see that one of you might not be in the position to figure it out, but maybe three or five might ring a bell or two

    has to do with the rotor position ring on the enigma machine.

    The instructions

    qlorm calwe aiyvf tdcqm ofvqf ieiqm ydoek phmbx poquf cgwgy fbibm lvgps cbpqa ooshf vimrk awpti qwfmn oddyk xaywg >gunjo niwdm sqaem mhgaq isnwz xqabu xuxmg sbmqt uapyf tfrpu yzlqv mffkd zqyvg eksnb tvyih bglzv pjyvt zdmjo kletq rgnal >wgmdl axwfd gcyfp lucye vfsjz

    look like the ciphertext expected for input to enigma. But I am getting nothing but garbage so far.

    EDIT: Ok, Wonder_Woman said this better a hour ago. So I am well behind the leader.

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