Just noticed that a VPS I bought on Friday to replace my InceptionHosting VPSes also has this weird CPU configuration that makes NetBSD crash (interestingly, it's based on Virtualizor)
Updated NetBSD-current and also added /usr/xsrc, the X Window System sources. After compiling and rebooting, X "just worked" with no configuration other than the built-in default, which displayed a small xterm, but here's a screenshot as displayed on the Linveo VNC viewer seen on my Chromebook:
By "built-in default" I mean just what's in /usr/xsrc -- without any of the numerous additional goodies from usr/pkgsrc/x11 and without any additional X configuration. /etc/X11 exists but has empty subdirectories. There is no .Xauthority and no .xinitrc in either /root or /home/tom.
So far, 22 GB disk space has been used. That includes all the sources and all the build objects.
linveo# df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail %Cap Mounted on
/dev/dk2 48G 22G 24G 47% /
linveo#
I would like to learn more, any recommendations? I have been Ubuntu my entire life after I found it just naturally easier to use compared to Centos.
I think all the Linux distributions are great! I think all three of the best known BSDs also are equally great!
For me, I occasionally find that some little thing or another doesn't quite work when I use one of the Linux distributions. But, when I use BSD, everything usually works. More important, if something doesn't work with BSD, they seem to fix it promptly.
OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and NetBSD all are slightly different from each other. Each one has its vaunted advantage, Open = security, Free = performance, and Net = runs everywhere. Under the hood, the way each BSD handles its sources a little differently. The communities are a little different too. Free is the biggest community, and, seems to me the most friendly. Open is a smaller commuity than Free, and, to me, seems intensely focussed. Net is the smallest community. Net attracts qualified developers who want to use BSD for commercial projects where the GPL can't be used. Net seems to me like low drama, quiet, and high quality.
For all the BSDs, maybe you might be interested in the UnitedBSD Forum.
I recommend that you try all three of the major BSDs. Invest a few weeks with each one. Read the sites, read the Wikipedia articles, check the mailing list archives, and take a look at the sources. Install each one. Have fun!
@huntercop I'd definitely start with FreeBSD. It is the easiest to get into in my opinion due to the size of the community and amount of good information available online. Once you have been able to get your feet wet a bit, you should definitely try them all out like @Not_Oles mentioned. He summarized the differences between the flavors pretty nicely above, so the selection depends on what your ultimate goals are. What comes to FreeBSD, the handbook is a good way to get in which you can find at https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/.
Good luck for your adventures and keep us posted with the progress of your journey!
If someone would like to donate yet another free bare metal Community server to run BSD VMs for LESbians, that might be, as far as I know, rare or even unique.
Yesterday i upgraded two of my recently acquired vps (I have nothing but a base configuration at the moment on these vps.) and my laptop (I had just installed 14.1 two days ago). i did not encounter any problems so far.
Today i upgraded my vps which runs tailscale and a jail with uptimekuma.
The only problem I had was with tailscale but I think it was not due to the upgrade, but to the typical problems with tailscale and the dns servers in resolv.conf.
i solved the problem by just stopping tailscale, adding a dns server in the resolv.conf (apart from the one tailscale uses) and starting tailscale again.
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Just noticed that a VPS I bought on Friday to replace my InceptionHosting VPSes also has this weird CPU configuration that makes NetBSD crash (interestingly, it's based on Virtualizor)
Updated NetBSD-current and also added
/usr/xsrc
, the X Window System sources. After compiling and rebooting, X "just worked" with no configuration other than the built-in default, which displayed a small xterm, but here's a screenshot as displayed on the Linveo VNC viewer seen on my Chromebook:I hope everyone gets the servers they want!
By "built-in default" I mean just what's in
/usr/xsrc
-- without any of the numerous additional goodies fromusr/pkgsrc/x11
and without any additional X configuration./etc/X11
exists but has empty subdirectories. There is no.Xauthority
and no.xinitrc
in either/root
or/home/tom
.So far, 22 GB disk space has been used. That includes all the sources and all the build objects.
I hope everyone gets the servers they want!
FreeBSD 14.2-RELEASE Now Available
I hope everyone gets the servers they want!
You beat me to it! I was thinking earlier today that it would be a perfect thing to make a post out of that, but dinner time got me distracted
I would like to learn more, any recommendations? I have been Ubuntu my entire life after I found it just naturally easier to use compared to Centos.
I know @FrankZ wanted to do something LES exclusive. Maybe we can do something around this - just ideas.
I think all the Linux distributions are great! I think all three of the best known BSDs also are equally great!
For me, I occasionally find that some little thing or another doesn't quite work when I use one of the Linux distributions. But, when I use BSD, everything usually works. More important, if something doesn't work with BSD, they seem to fix it promptly.
OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and NetBSD all are slightly different from each other. Each one has its vaunted advantage, Open = security, Free = performance, and Net = runs everywhere. Under the hood, the way each BSD handles its sources a little differently. The communities are a little different too. Free is the biggest community, and, seems to me the most friendly. Open is a smaller commuity than Free, and, to me, seems intensely focussed. Net is the smallest community. Net attracts qualified developers who want to use BSD for commercial projects where the GPL can't be used. Net seems to me like low drama, quiet, and high quality.
For FreeBSD, maybe take a look at some of this Netflix video: Why We Run FreeBSD current at Netflix – Drew Gallatin. That video explains why Netflix's 15% of total global internet traffic runs on FreeBSD current.
For all the BSDs, maybe you might be interested in the UnitedBSD Forum.
I recommend that you try all three of the major BSDs. Invest a few weeks with each one. Read the sites, read the Wikipedia articles, check the mailing list archives, and take a look at the sources. Install each one. Have fun!
I hope everyone gets the servers they want!
I'm looking for a free bare metal server to share with the LES community. Like Crunchy.
I hope everyone gets the servers they want!
@huntercop I'd definitely start with FreeBSD. It is the easiest to get into in my opinion due to the size of the community and amount of good information available online. Once you have been able to get your feet wet a bit, you should definitely try them all out like @Not_Oles mentioned. He summarized the differences between the flavors pretty nicely above, so the selection depends on what your ultimate goals are. What comes to FreeBSD, the handbook is a good way to get in which you can find at https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/.
Good luck for your adventures and keep us posted with the progress of your journey!
Thanks to @Hosteroid for donating a nice server which is running Debian 12.
Please see https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/8725/community-bare-metal-server for all the details.
If someone would like to donate yet another free bare metal Community server to run BSD VMs for LESbians, that might be, as far as I know, rare or even unique.
Thanks!
I hope everyone gets the servers they want!
Yesterday i upgraded two of my recently acquired vps (I have nothing but a base configuration at the moment on these vps.) and my laptop (I had just installed 14.1 two days ago). i did not encounter any problems so far.
Today i upgraded my vps which runs tailscale and a jail with uptimekuma.
The only problem I had was with tailscale but I think it was not due to the upgrade, but to the typical problems with tailscale and the dns servers in resolv.conf.
i solved the problem by just stopping tailscale, adding a dns server in the resolv.conf (apart from the one tailscale uses) and starting tailscale again.
I also updated the jail, no problems so far.
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