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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider

    @itsdeadjim said:
    @host_c is great. IIRC you started host-c as a side project, right?

    Not quite a side project, this is something I wanted to do since I was a teenager, but did not have the funds to do it, let me detail.

    @Not_Oles I will tag you, as you asked to present myself more :)

    Main Business in Romania does Network and Server setups for Private Customers. We also have a bunch of maintenance contracts.
    and also have some network equipment sales and server parts.

    These today partially sustain the hosting stuff.

    We wanted to enter the HOSTING business long time ago, but this is a pretty saturated market, with a ton of great established names that have over 10 years of presence, so trying to compete with them is like shooting a coin 3 mile away on a moving train with an AK47 ( not a very precise weapon might I say ), also blind-folded. =)

    So I was searching on the net for ideas, what others sell, how they sell, mostly looking at automation they use, you know, spend a few hundred (or more ) bucks and do some research before you knock your head on the door.

    All the fancy sites have cpanel, and a ton of software that for a start up is overkill $ wise, you spend at least a few $K ( with hardware ), colocation, just to look like them, while lacking the experience to solve the issues that arise. So that looked a little too risky for us, as we have near to 0 coding or other PHP/JSON/etc related skills. ( we grew to 1 over the past 2 years =) )

    Started reading thru forums and I said to my self, hey, there is substance here, perfect for start if you play your cards right and gives time to learn the problem solving for me and the 2 jack asses back at the office. I will underline this part as hosting has nothing to do with Small to Mid Business Network Setups. This is a totally different breed of animal, an untamed one =)

    This is how I found OGF. By that time, cociu made the exit and I said to my self and to the guys, there is no way on this universe, that another team, from the same city as him can enter that place ( or other place he was active ), so we took the decision to delay with 1 year, while testing installing and preparing the go-live ( that went like shit by the way, with all the testing we did =) ).

    We had option 1 to rent out hardware, but as I said before, I am not comfortable not owning the stuff, so I choose option B Invest my own $ and wait the Hosting Company to get on it's feet. This way I am more then motivated not to go under =)

    So here we are ~2 years later, kicking and aiming for new territories, "where no man has gone before" =)

    Did this answer your question?

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  • So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

    i just got a crunchbits before so i replicated the steps it's basically same logic, but i think host-c has already formatted the block storage in advance because it was instant (im really not sure here).

    just mount the UUID on the desired folder in /etc/fstab and reboot to confirm it's good to go.

    reminds me of letbox years ago when they were more active

    local block storage mount is much easier than remote SSHFS lol.

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @cybertech said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

    i just got a crunchbits before so i replicated the steps it's basically same logic, but i think host-c has already formatted the block storage in advance because it was instant (im really not sure here).

    just mount the UUID on the desired folder in /etc/fstab and reboot to confirm it's good to go.

    reminds me of letbox years ago when they were more active

    local block storage mount is much easier than remote SSHFS lol.

    Do you have a system for the directories you use? In the past I've just mounted to /storage but trying to get other ideas.

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    @SocksAreComfortable said:

    @cybertech said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

    i just got a crunchbits before so i replicated the steps it's basically same logic, but i think host-c has already formatted the block storage in advance because it was instant (im really not sure here).

    just mount the UUID on the desired folder in /etc/fstab and reboot to confirm it's good to go.

    reminds me of letbox years ago when they were more active

    local block storage mount is much easier than remote SSHFS lol.

    Do you have a system for the directories you use? In the past I've just mounted to /storage but trying to get other ideas.

    im not sure what "system" means; i simply mount it on the specific directory as needed.

    say you have a file storage with an account /var/www/username/blabla

    thats where i mount it, so data gets written to block storage and everything else is on the NVMe/OS

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    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @cybertech said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:

    @cybertech said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

    i just got a crunchbits before so i replicated the steps it's basically same logic, but i think host-c has already formatted the block storage in advance because it was instant (im really not sure here).

    just mount the UUID on the desired folder in /etc/fstab and reboot to confirm it's good to go.

    reminds me of letbox years ago when they were more active

    local block storage mount is much easier than remote SSHFS lol.

    Do you have a system for the directories you use? In the past I've just mounted to /storage but trying to get other ideas.

    im not sure what "system" means; i simply mount it on the specific directory as needed.

    say you have a file storage with an account /var/www/username/blabla

    thats where i mount it, so data gets written to block storage and everything else is on the NVMe/OS

    Oh, I meant system as in "way you tend to do things." And honestly your comment tells me, as I kinda expected, that I still don't know enough about the linux filesystems. Like, I have no idea what would be in /var/www in general nor why your username would be there (as opposed to just /home/username or /root).

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King
    edited December 5

    @SocksAreComfortable said:

    @cybertech said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:

    @cybertech said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

    i just got a crunchbits before so i replicated the steps it's basically same logic, but i think host-c has already formatted the block storage in advance because it was instant (im really not sure here).

    just mount the UUID on the desired folder in /etc/fstab and reboot to confirm it's good to go.

    reminds me of letbox years ago when they were more active

    local block storage mount is much easier than remote SSHFS lol.

    Do you have a system for the directories you use? In the past I've just mounted to /storage but trying to get other ideas.

    im not sure what "system" means; i simply mount it on the specific directory as needed.

    say you have a file storage with an account /var/www/username/blabla

    thats where i mount it, so data gets written to block storage and everything else is on the NVMe/OS

    Oh, I meant system as in "way you tend to do things." And honestly your comment tells me, as I kinda expected, that I still don't know enough about the linux filesystems. Like, I have no idea what would be in /var/www in general nor why your username would be there (as opposed to just /home/username or /root).

    it really just depends on the application you are using, or if you just want to to it manually.

    my current usage does it on /home/username/xxxx

    but if you use a webpanel it can set it up differently (like /var/www/xxxxx). again its up to you to follow the app's choice, or just point it back where you want it to be.

    im just lazy to point it manually so i know if i ever had to reinstall the vps i just mount it back and know exactly where to find it; in the default folder that the app was supposed to dump data in

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Hosting ProviderContent Writer

    @host_c said: @Not_Oles I will tag you, as you asked to present myself more

    Thanks for the tag! I appreciate it! I wish you and all your businesses the utmost success! Move over AWS, Azure, GCP, Hetzner, and everyone else! Host-C is coming!

    By the way, I still am looking for a cabinet with a nice router and a few servers. Plus somebody capable and willing to answer questions. If you have ideas for me, please let me know. Again, best wishes!

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    I hope everyone gets the servers they want!

  • KrisKris Content Writer
    edited December 5

    @SocksAreComfortable said: So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

    On Alma / Rocky* / RHEL :

    mkdir /data ; 
    mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb ;
    mount /dev/sdb /data ;
    

    Add the corresponding entry in /etc/fstab with 0 0 at the end so it doesn't stop booting if there's an issue with the secondary drive.

    This has sort of been my go to since... forever, just swap: ext2 -> 3 -> 4 -> xfs.

    Speaking of ext2, reminds me of when LimestoneNetworks would deliver brand new VM hypervisor nodes with ext2 + WD Green or Blue drives. When I joined, HVH was wondering why every brown out data would be lost. Good times having to enable journaling on already production nodes during maintenance windows because the DC didn't. It's like having IPMI on public IPs in 2024! /s

  • AmadexAmadex Hosting Provider

    Amazing service and friendly staff, also supporting our (hfnet) community.

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  • so 5tb, 10tb are gone forever?
    but why don't you sell them at same price ratio of 3tb? (if that gives you some profit)

  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited December 5

    @seenu said: so 5tb, 10tb are gone forever?

    yes, the Pioneer 5TB and Nimiz 10TB with that amount of monthly BW and TB/USD are EOL.

    In my view a promotion can be about 2 things.

    1 - either get something standard at a discount price
    2 - either get something exclusive, that is not sold on a daily basis

    If we ran the 5TB and 10Tb all year long, where is the promotion then? it would be a normal sale. It would contradict it's purpose.

    Same is for the crazy 7USD deals.

    All the promotions we ran this year were unique products, none of them was from our website ( those have higher BW and port speed and higher IOPS).

    All BF deals were crafted on spot for you, hence the delay posting or the mistakes that were made.

    These are digital products, but I wanted to make them as personal as possible.
    This is why we generated unique pictures for them and unique specs for them.

    What ran here as a promo did not ran on OGF for example and vice-versa. LES products usually have higher specs ( if anyone bothered to look ) either by more BW or port speed or CPU vCores or add-on storage.

    Jumping from 1 product from OGF to another one on LES happened, and sincerely, I have nothing against it, but we wasted over ~300USD in fees total.

    Not happy, rather then wasting 300 USD to PP and expenses to accounting I would have run crazy deals like 7 USD and 10 USD / year.

    So we cam up with a re-visioned TOS regarding Refund Policy:

    Refund Policy:

    Standard Refund Window:
        Refunds are available within 48 hours of purchase.
        No justification is required ("no-questions-asked").
        Refunds will be issued via the original payment method used at purchase.
    
    Exceptions:
        Refunds will not be processed in cases of:
            Service misuse.
            Violations of our Terms and Conditions (e.g., “hit and run” activity).
    
    Promotional Sales:
        Switching from one product to another during promotional sales is permitted; however:
            Refund fees will be deducted from the total refund amount.
            An additional $5 tax will apply.
        Jumping between promotions posted on different media channels (e.g., forums, chat rooms, or other platforms) is strictly prohibited.
    
    Credit Option:
        We can, however, refund the remaining value of current products as credit.
        The credit can be used to purchase any product currently available on the website or during a sale/promotion, provided it has inventory.
    
    Support Assistance:
        For any questions or assistance, please open a support ticket on our platform, and we’ll be happy to help.
    

    Version: 5

    Date: 05-December-2025

    Now, if you look closely, we added the option to refund the remaining value of current products as credit for thoes services that a customer does not use or wishes to exchange to other services.

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    "If there is no struggle there is no progress"

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    @host_c said:
    All the promotions we ran this year were unique products, none of them was from our website ( those have higher BW and port speed and higher IOPS).

    All BF deals were crafted on spot for you, hence the delay posting or the mistakes that were made.

    These are digital products, but I wanted to make them as personal as possible.
    This is why we generated unique pictures for them and unique specs for them.

    i like your dogged dedication

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited December 5

    THX @cybertech

    I really like this job , sincerely I do, dum dums are having fun also. :p

    I am just pissed about the $ spent on "shit" literally, rather the doing something constructive with it, for you and us alike.

    300 USD will not make us more rich, but it could make some of you more happy with crazy discount on a bunch of deals.

    Remember the above I wrote? =)

    @host_c said: perfect for start if you play your cards right and gives time to learn the problem solving for me and the 2 jack asses back at the office. I will underline this part

    This goes to the problem solving part.

    Either way, so long story short, we will make an announcement that all services with us can be refunded as CREDIT at anytime and it can be used to purchase whatever your heart wishes. ( assuming it is on stock or it will be available =) )

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    "If there is no struggle there is no progress"

  • will there be any stock replenishment for LES-exclusive deals today? For example, the 2TB deal? :p

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited December 5

    @host_c said: If we ran the 5TB and 10Tb all year long, where is the promotion then? it would be a normal sale. It would contradict it's purpose.

    Ah yes,

    Since these 2 product were from the same "promotion window", the 5 TB can be upgraded to the 10 TB deal.

    5TB Pioneer -> 10TB Nimitz.

    All this via a ticket. Service is modified on the fly, no reinstall needed.

    @gritty said: will there be any stock replenishment for LES-exclusive deals today? For example, the 2TB deal? :p

    depends if we manage to fix all issues today.

    If not, tomorrow YES!!!!

    We still have to provision the 20TB deals.

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    "If there is no struggle there is no progress"

  • @SocksAreComfortable said:
    So, for those of you that have one of the awesome storage deals (1TB, 2TB, 5TB, etc.) how do you mount your storage? I know how the host-c knowledgebase suggests doing it, but I'm curious as to how everyone here does it, if there are any differences/advantages that I might consider for mine.

    perehuznya:~# lsblk
    NAME           MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINTS
    sda              8:0    0    20G  0 disk
    ├─sda1           8:1    0    14G  0 part  /
    ├─sda2           8:2    0     2G  0 part  [SWAP]
    ├─sda3           8:3    0    64M  0 part
    └─sda4           8:4    0   3.9G  0 part
    sdb              8:16   0   4.9T  0 disk
    └─sdb1           8:17   0   4.9T  0 part
      └─crypt-root 253:0    0   4.9T  0 crypt /var/lib/lxc
    
  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited December 5

    @tetech said: └─crypt-root 253:0 0 4.9T 0 crypt /var/lib/lxc

    I like you =) =)

    Here is a general Tutorial with recommendations from our wiki ( damn, nobody looks at those, why?? )

    https://host-c.com/knowledgebase/1/VPS-Storage-add-on-secondary-drive.html

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    "If there is no struggle there is no progress"

  • edited December 5

    First of all...happy to see such commitment and putting personal efforts in making deals unique etc, that shows how top quality provider you are (or trying to become).

    @host_c said: If we ran the 5TB and 10Tb all year long, where is the promotion then? it would be a normal sale. It would contradict it's purpose.

    I mean BF/CM deals only not year long,
    i spent most of time on mega thread OGF and didn't buy anything this year as i know clearly i only want storage vps and dev_vps has become a great ambassador of your services to decided to buy 5tb from you but you didn't post any 5tb ones (or i might missed in 100s of pages)

    once again happy to see such quality, ambitious provider

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited December 5

    there were ( and will be again )

    VPS Yorktown - Storage 2TB - 2TB
    PLEX Adventures VPS - Storage 4TB - 4TB
    Pegasus 0312 - 20TB Storage - 20TB

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  • @host_c said: there were ( and will be again )

    One opinion/ask (based on your 30TB NVMe availability post...)

    It'll be nice to have a storage VM with a decent size NVMe for some caching. That will absolutely blast the storage yabs into the stratosphere.

    I'm not sure if the NVMe's are also RAIDed (it can be cache or metadata depending...).

  • @nullnothere said:

    @host_c said: there were ( and will be again )

    One opinion/ask (based on your 30TB NVMe availability post...)

    It'll be nice to have a storage VM with a decent size NVMe for some caching. That will absolutely blast the storage yabs into the stratosphere.

    I'm not sure if the NVMe's are also RAIDed (it can be cache or metadata depending...).

    As a public network NAS? ;)

  • edited December 5

    @nullnothere said: It'll be nice to have a storage VM with a decent size NVMe for some caching. That will absolutely blast the storage yabs into the stratosphere.

    I will be happy with just boot having NVMe

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  • @seenu said:
    I will be happy with just boot having NVMe

    That's already the case.

    @gritty said:
    As a public network NAS? ;)

    I like to have performance even for my private network NAS.

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  • JabJab Senpai
    edited December 5

    Chicken!?

    @host_c said: Either way, so long story short, we will make an announcement that all services with us can be refunded as CREDIT

    Can I buy other people services (for cheaper) and then refund those as credit (to my account)?
    Cheap cheaper credits!?

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  • @Jab said: Cheap cheaper credits!?

    hahaha, good idea

  • Wanted to give a shout out to host C from my side as well. I remember host C joining the forum ~2 years back, been wanting to try them but their products were usually out of my low end budget. But I saw the interactions of him on the forum, and thought of him as a great guy.

    Then came March, and the legendary 5TB deal. I knew it was unbeatable, and took it right away.

    It's been a smooth experience so far. The only downtime I can remember is a planned maintenance. Packs a decent punch and shared with my friends, we use it mainly for Jellyfin (no transcoding, I think that would be a bit too much for the 2 cores and against fair use), and a bit of light torrenting and archival.

    I also remember there was supposedly some issue with the node I was on, but I really couldn't find anything off. Aaand, I got 2 months additional for the inconveniences 🤣

    Overall, 10/10, highly recommended. Good luck @host_c for your future growth and expansions.

    My only nitpicking would be that the routing sucks to my area, but I that's a Digi/RCS thing and host C can't do much about it.

    Reguards

  • host-C is BEST =)

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  • @host_c said:
    What ran here as a promo did not ran on OGF for example and vice-versa. LES products usually have higher specs ( if anyone bothered to look ) either by more BW or port speed or CPU vCores or add-on storage.

    I didn't bother until now, but damn, it is even better. Muahahaha.
    ...please take out deadpool insurance :skull:

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  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider

    @nullnothere said: It'll be nice to have a storage VM with a decent size NVMe for some caching. That will absolutely blast the storage yabs into the stratosphere.

    so a 1TB NVME sounds nice huh?

    2C
    4G
    1TB NVME
    5TB transfer
    1G line?

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