external hdd - wd or seagate
i am looking for at 20tb external hdd.
which of the two would you recommend:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09TYZCN61
or
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0B2PZWD81
and what are the reasons for your recommendation?
i am looking for at 20tb external hdd.
which of the two would you recommend:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09TYZCN61
or
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0B2PZWD81
and what are the reasons for your recommendation?
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https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q1-2024/
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I checked both links, but the situation is unclear.
Besides it's .DE (and Deutsch isn't my strong suit), the reviews are piled up — for WD they're mostly for 2.5" drives, for Seagate I found a 3.5" review, but it was for a 18 TB model.
If you know the exact models of the external drives above, can you find out (and post here) the models of the internal drives used in those enclosures?
Or post the external models at least.
These days hard drives vary considerably, you're right to ask before buying.
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Honestly, they are both so similar in every aspect, it doesn't really matter.
I personally would get the Seagate drive, but that is purely based on the fact I don't like the glossy, rounded look of the WD drive.
I generally prefers WD because Seagate fail rate is high for me, but YMMV
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WD on balance, but I'd take whatever is on sale.
Realistically with single drive you need a sound backup strategy either way.
WD has better support and service if it ever comes to that.
I'd go with WD, bought a brand new Seagate Skyhawk, and it failed on me after 3 months ish, and I replaced it with a old, used WD Green that is from 2011, and it works fine, and I've had it for years now.
Same and I have never had a problem RMAing a WD. Seagate has given me the run around more than once.
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It is crap. Unreliable. Especially when you need to copy all the data from the drive.
What I did and would recommend is get an external drive bay and a Seagate Ironwolf Pro HDD of the needed size (the links are affiliate).
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Filling a considerable portion of the drive with data (especially if there's some fragmented data already) could be not much better.
Yes, this one is pretty good.
Another good option is an offensively white WD (not Red, Purple, etc.), which is actually HGST (Hitachi).
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i have to copy a lot of data from old truecrypt volumes to veracrypt volumes and also from partly old hdds, sshhds and other strange drives.
docking station is flattering because then i don't have to work with any enclosures. understood. however, the rshtech docking station stops at 16TB hard disks, so larger ones don't work, or are there other experiences?
@bikegremlin do you know whether the docking station with veracrypt recognizes encrypted volumes or are there problems?
I have no particular brand preference. Both have been more or less as reliable for me. Current NAS is mostly Seagate Ironwolfs but off the top of my head there may be a WD RED in there too (and if not, then it’s because I moved it to my NVR, but either way I have one somewhere).
My approach would be to go through the reviews of both units and see what drive is inside the enclosure. In cases there may be more than one model that is used so you need to check a few multiple reviews/benchmarks. Usually a number of people on Amazon will post benchmarks that show the drive model. From that make a decision based on
Roughy in order:
1) What drive(s) is likely to be inside, and how predictable it'll be you’d get a drive you’d want
2) Is it an enterprise vs consumer grade drive. Used to be that sometimes there was some higher end model drives used in enclosures
3) If the drive will be written to a lot, is the drive a CMR or SMR. CMR is better for repeat access. SMR isn’t ideal but OK for an archival drive.
4) If the drive is used by Backblaze, lastly I’d check their stats. I’d just be weary of sample sizes as well as length of deployment. They do have some drives that either they don’t have a lot of, or have less than say 24 months runtime with so it’s hard to gauge long term reliability.
5) Price
I haven’t checked the two drives specifically mentioned here, but that’s generally my approach.
what about toshiba?
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Generally, we prefer WD/HGST, and most Toshiba have done well for us. The model of the disk matters a lot, and there are some models that are way more reliable than others.
Seagate tends to be the least reliable overall, but some models have been good. We have retired Seagate drives with over 100k POH that are still running fine, so it's pretty hit or miss.
There is a newer version of this: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2024/
The Backblaze stats are useful - if you want to buy a used or refurb drive, the most reliable models are a good shopping list, but only buy from a vendor with a good reputation. Some of the vendors will run a drive through tests before they ship, and this is a very good thing to look for. Other vendors just pull them out of retired servers and sell them with little regard for the condition.
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