@kvidden said: @skhron STO2 so the one sponsored by you guys.
3MS to STO2 vs 8MS to STO1
STO2 is actually in Stockholm, STO1 is in Hudiksvall, just wrongly named, so that would explain the latency difference.
Yes and no, ISP peering factor a lot.
That considering that Hetzner in Finland Tuusula ( or how its spelled ) is close 3rd with around 10MS even though the distance is greater.
@kvidden said: @skhron STO2 so the one sponsored by you guys.
3MS to STO2 vs 8MS to STO1
STO2 is actually in Stockholm, STO1 is in Hudiksvall, just wrongly named, so that would explain the latency difference.
I've just updated the location on the resolver list on the website. This bugs me since you (I think?) made me aware of it. But I am hesitant to change it in the backend, because then its hostname would change as well as its id on the lists for dnscrypt-proxy and company, which would be a breaking change for those who use that resolver.
@Hosteroid said: @Brueggus you could send at least one mug to each of the sponsors for Christmas
The issue with the mugs is that I would need to send them as parcel and international shipping is crazy expensive in Germany. A parcel to another EU country costs around EUR 15, to a non-EU country twice as much.
I got three of these mugs for 10 bucks (Christmas promo), so shipping fees would be 5-10 times as much as the mug is worth. Doesn't make any sense to me.
And, most important, I don't want the people who donate their money to the project to help with covering the server cost see me burning it for mugs and shipping.
I get the point and I agree - it would be nice to give something back to the sponsors on Christmas. But I need to figure out a way so that I don't make a loss.
@kvidden said: @skhron STO2 so the one sponsored by you guys.
3MS to STO2 vs 8MS to STO1
STO2 is actually in Stockholm, STO1 is in Hudiksvall, just wrongly named, so that would explain the latency difference.
I've just updated the location on the resolver list on the website. This bugs me since you (I think?) made me aware of it. But I am hesitant to change it in the backend, because then its hostname would change as well as its id on the lists for dnscrypt-proxy and company, which would be a breaking change for those who use that resolver.
Yeah, I also mentioned the ITDLC one, but I get your point, just wanted to clarify it to the guy. Totally okay for me to keep it that way
@kvidden said: @skhron STO2 so the one sponsored by you guys.
3MS to STO2 vs 8MS to STO1
STO2 is actually in Stockholm, STO1 is in Hudiksvall, just wrongly named, so that would explain the latency difference.
I've just updated the location on the resolver list on the website. This bugs me since you (I think?) made me aware of it. But I am hesitant to change it in the backend, because then its hostname would change as well as its id on the lists for dnscrypt-proxy and company, which would be a breaking change for those who use that resolver.
@Hosteroid said: @Brueggus you could send at least one mug to each of the sponsors for Christmas
The issue with the mugs is that I would need to send them as parcel and international shipping is crazy expensive in Germany. A parcel to another EU country costs around EUR 15, to a non-EU country twice as much.
I got three of these mugs for 10 bucks (Christmas promo), so shipping fees would be 5-10 times as much as the mug is worth. Doesn't make any sense to me.
And, most important, I don't want the people who donate their money to the project to help with covering the server cost see me burning it for mugs and shipping.
I get the point and I agree - it would be nice to give something back to the sponsors on Christmas. But I need to figure out a way so that I don't make a loss.
Ummm soo, 15 eur is a loss for you, but sponsoring services that you get are not a loss for sponsoring ISPs? Okay then I as sponsor , I agree to pay shipping then, i am waiting one of the mugs.
@Brueggus said:
The issue with the mugs is that I would need to send them as parcel and international shipping is crazy expensive in Germany. A parcel to another EU country costs around EUR 15, to a non-EU country twice as much.
I got three of these mugs for 10 bucks (Christmas promo), so shipping fees would be 5-10 times as much as the mug is worth. Doesn't make any sense to me.
And, most important, I don't want the people who donate their money to the project to help with covering the server cost see me burning it for mugs and shipping.
I get the point and I agree - it would be nice to give something back to the sponsors on Christmas. But I need to figure out a way so that I don't make a loss.
Ummm soo, 15 eur is a loss for youthe project, but sponsoring services that you get are not a loss for sponsoring ISPs? Okay then I as sponsor , I agree to pay shipping then, i am waiting one of the mugs.
He's trying to be a good financial steward with project donations. I see this as a Good Thing (tm).
@kvidden said: @skhron STO2 so the one sponsored by you guys.
3MS to STO2 vs 8MS to STO1
STO2 is actually in Stockholm, STO1 is in Hudiksvall, just wrongly named, so that would explain the latency difference.
I've just updated the location on the resolver list on the website. This bugs me since you (I think?) made me aware of it. But I am hesitant to change it in the backend, because then its hostname would change as well as its id on the lists for dnscrypt-proxy and company, which would be a breaking change for those who use that resolver.
@Hosteroid said: @Brueggus you could send at least one mug to each of the sponsors for Christmas
The issue with the mugs is that I would need to send them as parcel and international shipping is crazy expensive in Germany. A parcel to another EU country costs around EUR 15, to a non-EU country twice as much.
I got three of these mugs for 10 bucks (Christmas promo), so shipping fees would be 5-10 times as much as the mug is worth. Doesn't make any sense to me.
And, most important, I don't want the people who donate their money to the project to help with covering the server cost see me burning it for mugs and shipping.
I get the point and I agree - it would be nice to give something back to the sponsors on Christmas. But I need to figure out a way so that I don't make a loss.
Ummm soo, 15 eur is a loss for you, but sponsoring services that you get are not a loss for sponsoring ISPs? Okay then I as sponsor , I agree to pay shipping then, i am waiting one of the mugs.
I appreciate each and every sponsor, no matter if they sponsor a single or a dozen locations for the project. Therefore, every sponsor deserves a mug. But: If a US company sponsors a single location and I ship a mug to the US to show my appreciation, I am making a loss. I would have been cheaper for me if I paid for the service. That's the point I wanted to make.
Even with the sponsors, dnscry.pt is operating at a loss financially - which shouldn't be surprising. I spend about 300,- Euro every month from my pocket to keep things running. And I am happy to do it as long as I can afford it, because I feel like I'm doing something useful for the internet community (and I can satisfy my craving for having tons of VPS in different locations).
There's no surplus I could spend on shenanigans. And I wouldn't have ordered any mugs at all if it wasn't the Christmas promo where I got three for the price of one.
There are around 25 companies and people sponsoring the project at the moment. If I spend 20,- EUR for mug + shipping on average, this would be 400,- Euro in total. My apologies to anyone who would enjoy gazing at the dnscry.pt logo while drinking their morning coffee, but I (as an individual) have better use for that amount of money in the pre-Christmas season than shipping mugs around the world.
@Hosteroid I appreciate your contribution to my project and I understand that you would appreciate a mug. So I'll make that happen. May I use the address in the footer of your website for shipping?
This is a very cool service and I greatly appreciate OP spending the time and effort to build and maintain it. Previously I was using Quad9 given they support DNSCrypt and are one of the few who can give me low latency, but for something as critical as DNS, they really aren't that reliable. I had a mysterious middle of the night multi-hour outage and I stupidly didn't put in any alternative resolvers as I trusted them to be competent at their one job.
After that I found dnscry.pt when looking for usable alternatives, and it was really the only service that ticked all the boxes for me: DNSSEC, no net-nanny bullshit, and usable latency. I kept Quad9 in the list for some time, but after they blocked a legitimate domain I wished to visit while giving no means to opt-out and keep DNSSEC, I decided "fuck it" and threw caution to the wind by sending all my DNS traffic through dnscry.pt.
All this happened about 6 months ago now and it's been smooth sailing since. I'm a little bummed to see Adelaide bit the dust though. Would you be interested in setting up a node in Perth on BinaryLane? I can donate a VM.
@Brueggus said:
Looks like there's a real demand for the mugs
I'll try to figure out if I can produce and ship them cheaper somehow.
Oh, and there's still a small chance that one of the winners doesn't claim their prize. I'll do a re-roll in that case.
Vistaprint etc could be produced easily may be it would be cost effective to give the image of the logo in high quality PNG and just anyone interested in the mug could send it to be produced locally. Example for Spain. The production is like 5 euros+ shipping total 9 euros or so. If you produce them in Germany or any another country just the shipping them take more time and it is more expensive . Causes more CO2 not good for the climate neither the wallet. So just provide the image and if there are interest people would print them locally. Just my 2cents
I believe in good luck. Harder that I work ,luckier i get.
@whoami said: I had a mysterious middle of the night multi-hour outage and I stupidly didn't put in any alternative resolvers as I trusted them to be competent at their one job.
Sometimes such events happens due to routing issues, not necessarily it is the server operator to blame. Having an alternate/backup is a must IMO.
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@skhron STO2 so the one sponsored by you guys.
3MS to STO2 vs 8MS to STO1
STO2 is actually in Stockholm, STO1 is in Hudiksvall, just wrongly named, so that would explain the latency difference.
Yes and no, ISP peering factor a lot.
That considering that Hetzner in Finland Tuusula ( or how its spelled ) is close 3rd with around 10MS even though the distance is greater.
@Brueggus you could send at least one mug to each of the sponsors for Christmas
No, he can’t. Dude rents 300+ servers from his own pocket.
I've just updated the location on the resolver list on the website. This bugs me since you (I think?) made me aware of it. But I am hesitant to change it in the backend, because then its hostname would change as well as its id on the lists for
dnscrypt-proxyand company, which would be a breaking change for those who use that resolver.The issue with the mugs is that I would need to send them as parcel and international shipping is crazy expensive in Germany. A parcel to another EU country costs around EUR 15, to a non-EU country twice as much.
I got three of these mugs for 10 bucks (Christmas promo), so shipping fees would be 5-10 times as much as the mug is worth. Doesn't make any sense to me.
And, most important, I don't want the people who donate their money to the project to help with covering the server cost see me burning it for mugs and shipping.
I get the point and I agree - it would be nice to give something back to the sponsors on Christmas. But I need to figure out a way so that I don't make a loss.
dnscry.pt - Public DNSCrypt resolvers hosted by LowEnd providers • Need a free NAT LXC? -> https://microlxc.net/
Yeah, I also mentioned the ITDLC one, but I get your point, just wanted to clarify it to the guy. Totally okay for me to keep it that way
Ummm soo, 15 eur is a loss for you, but sponsoring services that you get are not a loss for sponsoring ISPs? Okay then I as sponsor , I agree to pay shipping then, i am waiting one of the mugs.
He's trying to be a good financial steward with project donations. I see this as a Good Thing (tm).
I appreciate each and every sponsor, no matter if they sponsor a single or a dozen locations for the project. Therefore, every sponsor deserves a mug. But: If a US company sponsors a single location and I ship a mug to the US to show my appreciation, I am making a loss. I would have been cheaper for me if I paid for the service. That's the point I wanted to make.
Even with the sponsors, dnscry.pt is operating at a loss financially - which shouldn't be surprising. I spend about 300,- Euro every month from my pocket to keep things running. And I am happy to do it as long as I can afford it, because I feel like I'm doing something useful for the internet community (and I can satisfy my craving for having tons of VPS in different locations).
There's no surplus I could spend on shenanigans. And I wouldn't have ordered any mugs at all if it wasn't the Christmas promo where I got three for the price of one.
There are around 25 companies and people sponsoring the project at the moment. If I spend 20,- EUR for mug + shipping on average, this would be 400,- Euro in total. My apologies to anyone who would enjoy gazing at the dnscry.pt logo while drinking their morning coffee, but I (as an individual) have better use for that amount of money in the pre-Christmas season than shipping mugs around the world.
@Hosteroid I appreciate your contribution to my project and I understand that you would appreciate a mug. So I'll make that happen. May I use the address in the footer of your website for shipping?
dnscry.pt - Public DNSCrypt resolvers hosted by LowEnd providers • Need a free NAT LXC? -> https://microlxc.net/
@Brueggus , may be that's a suggestion that you need to sell some merch ?
No luck for me...
And it would have been so nice next to my PowerDNS mug:
Looks like there's a real demand for the mugs
I'll try to figure out if I can produce and ship them cheaper somehow.
Oh, and there's still a small chance that one of the winners doesn't claim their prize. I'll do a re-roll in that case.
dnscry.pt - Public DNSCrypt resolvers hosted by LowEnd providers • Need a free NAT LXC? -> https://microlxc.net/
This is a very cool service and I greatly appreciate OP spending the time and effort to build and maintain it. Previously I was using Quad9 given they support DNSCrypt and are one of the few who can give me low latency, but for something as critical as DNS, they really aren't that reliable. I had a mysterious middle of the night multi-hour outage and I stupidly didn't put in any alternative resolvers as I trusted them to be competent at their one job.
After that I found dnscry.pt when looking for usable alternatives, and it was really the only service that ticked all the boxes for me: DNSSEC, no net-nanny bullshit, and usable latency. I kept Quad9 in the list for some time, but after they blocked a legitimate domain I wished to visit while giving no means to opt-out and keep DNSSEC, I decided "fuck it" and threw caution to the wind by sending all my DNS traffic through dnscry.pt.
All this happened about 6 months ago now and it's been smooth sailing since. I'm a little bummed to see Adelaide bit the dust though. Would you be interested in setting up a node in Perth on BinaryLane? I can donate a VM.
I am in for a MUG if you finger it out!!!!
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Vistaprint etc could be produced easily may be it would be cost effective to give the image of the logo in high quality PNG and just anyone interested in the mug could send it to be produced locally. Example for Spain. The production is like 5 euros+ shipping total 9 euros or so. If you produce them in Germany or any another country just the shipping them take more time and it is more expensive . Causes more CO2 not good for the climate neither the wallet. So just provide the image and if there are interest people would print them locally. Just my 2cents
I believe in good luck. Harder that I work ,luckier i get.
Sometimes such events happens due to routing issues, not necessarily it is the server operator to blame. Having an alternate/backup is a must IMO.
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