China-optimized providers?

sanvitsanvit OG
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Hello fellow LES members!
I also posted this on LET, but I'd love to hear from you guys as well!

I am looking for a china-optimized provider for the following use cases. Any recommendations/reviews/etc. would be highly appreciated!

  1. Website hosting (preferably Hong Kong region - client will be on Shenzhen)

  2. Personal VPN for travel (preferably Japan/Korea/Hong Kong region - travelling to Qingdao)

Both will be only used for 1 month, using around 300GB-ish traffic.

For 1, pricing doesn't really matter that much as long as the connectivity is good (~$100/mo)
For 2, pricing does matter - willing to pay ~$30/mo

My research brought me to Misaka, xTom (V.PS), DMIT, BandWagonHost, and GigsGigsCloud. If anyone has good/bad reviews for those providers, as well as any other providers that offer similar services it would be highly appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King
    edited January 9

    its really not easy, but your budget is really good.

    i use leaseweb HK loosely (eg greencloudvps) and they work for me when in CN, however i don't think its CN optimized.

    it might work for your client since they are just across a bridge.

    in any case HK might be a good bet, have heard only good things about Misaka. iirc Hosthatch uses their network for some locations so you might wanna test their HK location as well.

    xTom i don't know if they have HK, next best is probably tokyo, its kind of up and down for me when in mainland.

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    for website though i doubt its a big problem, unless your IP is blocked by GFW

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  • sanvitsanvit OG

    @cybertech said: greencloudvps

    Hmm didn't know GC was china-optimzied. I'll have a look at them.
    BTW didn't they have some kind of ransomware breach?

    @cybertech said: Misaka
    @cybertech said: Hosthatch uses their network

    Oh wasn't aware of this either! I'll have a ticket with them and see how their network performs as well!

    @cybertech said: xTom i don't know if they have HK, next best is probably tokyo, its kind up and down for me when in mainland.

    Yup they only have Tokyo :( They seem to have multiple networks per region (Some are normal, some are Softbank, and some are CN2 GIA according to their docs?) May I ask which network you were in?

    Anyways, thank you so much for the reply! I really appreciate it!

  • NeoonNeoon OGSenpai
    edited January 9

    @sanvit said:

    @cybertech said: greencloudvps

    Hmm didn't know GC was china-optimzied. I'll have a look at them.
    BTW didn't they have some kind of ransomware breach?

    NL or so, has partially good connectivity to china.
    Was something 120ms to Beijing.

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  • sanvitsanvit OG

    @cybertech said:
    for website though i doubt its a big problem, unless your IP is blocked by GFW

    The website should download around ~100MB of file, so speed is pretty important to us :(

  • sanvitsanvit OG

    @Neoon said:

    @sanvit said:

    @cybertech said: greencloudvps

    Hmm didn't know GC was china-optimzied. I'll have a look at them.
    BTW didn't they have some kind of ransomware breach?

    NL or so, has partially good connectivity to china.
    Was something 120ms to Beijing.

    You mean the Amsterdam, NL location, right? I'll have a talk with them and see if they have any closer region with china-connectivity.
    Thank you very much for your input!

  • NeoonNeoon OGSenpai

    @sanvit said:

    @Neoon said:

    @sanvit said:

    @cybertech said: greencloudvps

    Hmm didn't know GC was china-optimzied. I'll have a look at them.
    BTW didn't they have some kind of ransomware breach?

    NL or so, has partially good connectivity to china.
    Was something 120ms to Beijing.

    You mean the Amsterdam, NL location, right? I'll have a talk with them and see if they have any closer region with china-connectivity.
    Thank you very much for your input!

    Not recently tested, might have changed though.

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    @sanvit said:

    @cybertech said: greencloudvps

    Hmm didn't know GC was china-optimzied. I'll have a look at them.
    BTW didn't they have some kind of ransomware breach?

    i meant i dont think they are optimized. but leaseweb HK is generally 10G, could have a look.

    they did, maybe for a node or 2, they have since closed the breach, and progressively changing their panel to Virtfusion.

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King
    edited January 9

    SalmonCloud HK:

    https://bgp.tools/as/53616

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  • sanvitsanvit OG
    edited January 9

    @cybertech said:
    SalmonCloud HK:

    https://bgp.tools/as/53616

    It's these guys, right?
    https://billing.salmoncloud.co.uk/store/hong-kong-vps-metered

    The pricing seems... to good to be true, especially if it routes through DMIT. I might as well buy one just as a backup VPN lol

    Thank you :)

  • totototototo

    I think mlnl.host (@jayjay ) offers VPS hosting in Hong Kong.

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  • nightcatnightcat

    https://claw.cloud/
    or
    https://www.yxvm.com/ HK vol or hybird plan.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King
    edited January 9

    https://lg.cn-hongkong.claw.cloud/

    let me know if its good for shenzhen and rest of china. i might be interested in getting one too.

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • totototototo

    @cybertech said:
    https://lg.cn-hongkong.claw.cloud/

    Their Tokyo (Global) doesn’t seem bad, considering it’s $7/year in the first year.
    https://lg.ap-northeast-1-intl.claw.cloud/
    https://ping.pe/47.79.32.210

  • CLAWCLOUDCLAWCLOUD Hosting Provider

    You should try CLAWCLOUD’s China-optimized series.
    Our Hong Kong servers have been performing outstandingly. Since we launched our VPS products in September, the Hong Kong server has quickly become our users' favorite. Feel free to search for "ClawCloud Hong Kong 香港" on Google to read the reviews and see what our users are saying about us.

    We warmly invite you to experience it for yourself. And don’t miss our special January promotion!

  • sh97sh97

    For non premium routes:

    You can check out GreenCloud TYO, Afaik they are using IIJ/Softbank, which seems to have good connectivity to China.

    Also, any provider with Lumen as an upstream in Hong Kong seems to have a good connectivity to China Mobile.

    ClawCloud HK also seems to have decent connectivity.

    For premium routes:
    xTom / V.PS has premium lines like CN2/9929/CMIN2 in most of their locations. Might consider one of them.

    Then there are providers like DMIT, BWH, Misaka etc.

    If you want best connectivity, just get a host which has one of the premium upstreams listed above.

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  • sanvitsanvit OG

    @tototo said: mlnl.host

    they don't specifically seem to advertise as china optimized but indeed their HK VPS seems reasonably priced!

    @cybertech said: claw.cloud

    @tototo said: claw.cloud

    @CLAWCLOUD said: CLAWCLOUD

    Keep hearing this name, and the testip seems pretty fast. Indeed I'll have a test drive :)

    @cybertech said: let me know if its good for shenzhen and rest of china. i might be interested in getting one too.

    My friend's visiting China (Qingdao) later this month, so I can tell her to have a look at this. However, the event for Shenzhen is a bit far away (April), and I'm not really sure we can use them for prod yet (they're quite new tbh). I will let you know if we have an update :)

    @sh97 said: GreenCloud TYO, Afaik they are using IIJ/Softbank

    Oh didn't know that. thank you!

    @sh97 said: xTom / V.PS has premium lines

    Yup was looking at them as well, but seems like they are OOS for those lineup :(

    Overall, thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it :)

  • sanvitsanvit OG

    @CLAWCLOUD said:
    You should try CLAWCLOUD’s China-optimized series.
    Our Hong Kong servers have been performing outstandingly. Since we launched our VPS products in September, the Hong Kong server has quickly become our users' favorite. Feel free to search for "ClawCloud Hong Kong 香港" on Google to read the reviews and see what our users are saying about us.

    We warmly invite you to experience it for yourself. And don’t miss our special January promotion!

    BTW there was a question on OGF asking about the test IP's source. I also checked and indeed the testip was from alibaba cloud. Are you a reseller of them? Could you elaborate more on this please?
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4261465/#Comment_4261465

  • jayjayjayjay Hosting Provider

    @tototo said:
    I think mlnl.host (@jayjay ) offers VPS hosting in Hong Kong.

    Thanks for the mention!

    Yes we offer VPS and Dedicated Servers in Hong Kong. We have multiple options for connectivity including HGC and HKT (PCCW), either with a Dedicated IP or via NAT, both of which have different performance for China.

    Example Looking Glass Links:

    https://hk.lg.mlnl.host/
    https://hkd.lg.mlnl.host/
    http://nat0.mlnl.host:4301/

    If you require better / cheaper optimised connectivity to China, we have servers in Los Angeles (USA) with larger amounts of bandwidth using CM, CU, CT and Premium routes with CU9929 etc.

    Hong Kong, United Kingdom, The Netherlands, Lithuania, Switzerland VPS / Dedicated Servers - DDoS Protected, 1 / 10 Gbit Unmetered, NAT and more

  • ralfralf

    @sanvit said:

    @CLAWCLOUD said:
    You should try CLAWCLOUD’s China-optimized series.
    Our Hong Kong servers have been performing outstandingly. Since we launched our VPS products in September, the Hong Kong server has quickly become our users' favorite. Feel free to search for "ClawCloud Hong Kong 香港" on Google to read the reviews and see what our users are saying about us.

    We warmly invite you to experience it for yourself. And don’t miss our special January promotion!

    BTW there was a question on OGF asking about the test IP's source. I also checked and indeed the testip was from alibaba cloud. Are you a reseller of them? Could you elaborate more on this please?
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4261465/#Comment_4261465

    I think they probably are resold Aliyun instances as they have 10.0.0.0 addresses on the instance and the external IP is rewritten on the way in/out.

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  • roseyysaroseyysa
    edited January 9

    :) :)

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