@bikegremlin said:
Going back-and-forth with the tech. support for about a week now.
"Your licence works. Try without a VPN."
I've tried without a VPN from at least two different computers and ISPs, it's not working, nor from the hosting server.
"Yes, very frustrating, try this one..."
No, not working either...
Since they're saying your license is valid maybe ask them to issue a new license code along with a new download linkand invalidate the old ones. Maybe that'll work.
I suppose we'll get to that in a month or two. LOL.
To be fair I haven't used the plugin in a long while. Updraft Free did all the heavy lifting for me. Great plugin
Can updraft free:
Export test1.example.com
Import it on www.example.com
Fix any links and email domain changes (ideally with an option to do the same without altering email domains)?
That's why I found the AIO very helpful - it made such stuff simple and trivial.
Especially for offline (LAN) setups.
I have definitely already used updraft free to import from domain x to domain y and also from domain to subdomain and vice versa. This should work and links are fixed automatically. Not sure about email domain changes, never had to do that personally. You'll have to check on that. But yeah, for migrating sites AIO is still very easy set and forget. That said, all migrations I did with updraft free worked just fine.
Fwiw WPVivid is developed by some guy from the LE community (forgot who) and also offers unlimited lifetime with lots of features (including pcloud): https://wpvivid.com/pricing/backup-migration
Our legacy licenses for unlimited sites might now actually be limited to 50 sites with new EULA if we accept updates lol
Fwiw WPVivid is developed by some guy from the LE community (forgot who) and also offers unlimited lifetime with lots of features (including pcloud): https://wpvivid.com/pricing/backup-migration
Our legacy licenses for unlimited sites might now actually be limited to 50 sites with new EULA if we accept updates lol
Very shady (fraudulent IMO).
My licence is still not resolved - 2 workdays silence from the support (maybe they got tired from all the back-and-forth nonsense).
Fwiw WPVivid is developed by some guy from the LE community (forgot who) and also offers unlimited lifetime with lots of features (including pcloud): https://wpvivid.com/pricing/backup-migration
Our legacy licenses for unlimited sites might now actually be limited to 50 sites with new EULA if we accept updates lol
Very shady (fraudulent IMO).
My licence is still not resolved - 2 workdays silence from the support (maybe they got tired from all the back-and-forth nonsense).
So what happened? Did you manage to get it sorted?
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Fwiw WPVivid is developed by some guy from the LE community (forgot who) and also offers unlimited lifetime with lots of features (including pcloud): https://wpvivid.com/pricing/backup-migration
Our legacy licenses for unlimited sites might now actually be limited to 50 sites with new EULA if we accept updates lol
Very shady (fraudulent IMO).
My licence is still not resolved - 2 workdays silence from the support (maybe they got tired from all the back-and-forth nonsense).
So what happened? Did you manage to get it sorted?
Nope.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Also, worth noting, my WP .org review for the plugin is getting blocked/moderated - so can't post it (wasn't anything impolite).
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Capitalism actually rewards sociopathy and greed.
That is what capitalism is. Uneven distribution of salaries, tax and more. Finding companies that in turn fund the government. Basically a hard focus on the capital. Anyway, dont want to make this into a political debate.
So what alternate are you looking at?
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Capitalism actually rewards sociopathy and greed.
That is what capitalism is. Uneven distribution of salaries, tax and more. Finding companies that in turn fund the government. Basically a hard focus on the capital. Anyway, dont want to make this into a political debate.
So what alternate are you looking at?
Updraft Plus is the first to try.
If it proves reliable and does all I need it to do in the free version.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Capitalism actually rewards sociopathy and greed.
That is what capitalism is. Uneven distribution of salaries, tax and more. Finding companies that in turn fund the government. Basically a hard focus on the capital. Anyway, dont want to make this into a political debate.
So what alternate are you looking at?
Updraft Plus is the first to try.
If it proves reliable and does all I need it to do in the free version.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Capitalism actually rewards sociopathy and greed.
That is what capitalism is. Uneven distribution of salaries, tax and more. Finding companies that in turn fund the government. Basically a hard focus on the capital. Anyway, dont want to make this into a political debate.
So what alternate are you looking at?
Updraft Plus is the first to try.
If it proves reliable and does all I need it to do in the free version.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Capitalism actually rewards sociopathy and greed.
That is what capitalism is. Uneven distribution of salaries, tax and more. Finding companies that in turn fund the government. Basically a hard focus on the capital. Anyway, dont want to make this into a political debate.
So what alternate are you looking at?
Updraft Plus is the first to try.
If it proves reliable and does all I need it to do in the free version.
I'm also using it. I like the feature that it can backup to my Google drive. But it's not a migration plugin. Just a backup restore plugin.
Can't restore a backup on a different domain by importing it there?
That's what I wanted to test.
That does work. Did it multiple times. They sell/used to sell(?!) an extra plugin extension for migration but that had extra features I guess. Moving from domain.com.to domain.xyz or sub.domain.com to domain.com never was an issue when I did it. Not sure if they changed anything as I haven't done this in a while, but should still work.
@bikegremlin said:
Can't restore a backup on a different domain by importing it there?
That's what I wanted to test.
That does work. Did it multiple times. They sell/used to sell(?!) an extra plugin extension for migration but that had extra features I guess. Moving from domain.com.to domain.xyz or sub.domain.com to domain.com never was an issue when I did it. Not sure if they changed anything as I haven't done this in a while, but should still work.
Well, this calls for a good old fashioned trial and error on 2 idlers!
EDIT:
From the plugin page:
Migrate with UpdraftPlus
It’s easy to migrate your WordPress website to another web host, server or domain with this free version of UpdraftPlus.
To migrate, simply download your database, plugins, themes etc. from the source site, then upload them into your destination site.
When migrating, a built-in search-and-replace engine identifies old strings and replaces these to reflect the new location. UpdraftPlus saves you time and reduces the risk of broken links or missing files associated with manual migrations.
From what I am reading, it seems updraft free does not backup "wordpress" itself, only the wp-contents folder and database. So on your new server, you still need a valid wordpres installation (with updraft) to be able to restore your site. Seems normal to me...
The premium lets you backup everything + db so restore is easier.
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
@somik said:
From what I am reading, it seems updraft free does not backup "wordpress" itself, only the wp-contents folder and database. So on your new server, you still need a valid wordpres installation (with updraft) to be able to restore your site. Seems normal to me...
The premium lets you backup everything + db so restore is easier.
That is the same how AIO WP Migration works.
You do need to install WP and the plugin, and then use the plugin to import the backup you made using that same plugin.
During the import, if the domain is different, the plugin auto-fixes all the links and options to work.
AIO WP Migration lets you uncheck what you don't want altered in that case (like email domains, for example, if your staging was configured to use the main domain's emails for testing and confirmation).
@somik said:
From what I am reading, it seems updraft free does not backup "wordpress" itself, only the wp-contents folder and database. So on your new server, you still need a valid wordpres installation (with updraft) to be able to restore your site. Seems normal to me...
The premium lets you backup everything + db so restore is easier.
That is the same how AIO WP Migration works.
You do need to install WP and the plugin, and then use the plugin to import the backup you made using that same plugin.
During the import, if the domain is different, the plugin auto-fixes all the links and options to work.
AIO WP Migration lets you uncheck what you don't want altered in that case (like email domains, for example, if your staging was configured to use the main domain's emails for testing and confirmation).
In that case you should be fine with updraft. Do update us with the differences and what is needed to migrate to a new site and new domain. Maybe a new blog post idea?
@somik said:
From what I am reading, it seems updraft free does not backup "wordpress" itself, only the wp-contents folder and database. So on your new server, you still need a valid wordpres installation (with updraft) to be able to restore your site. Seems normal to me...
The premium lets you backup everything + db so restore is easier.
Yeah, that's what I've done when migrating with Updraft free iirc.
Backup on source site. Download backup files.
Create new wp install on destination hosting/domain
Install Updraft free, upload backup files and restore. I think there was a prompt that domain is different and links will be replaced. Worked every time iirc
@somik said:
From what I am reading, it seems updraft free does not backup "wordpress" itself, only the wp-contents folder and database. So on your new server, you still need a valid wordpres installation (with updraft) to be able to restore your site. Seems normal to me...
The premium lets you backup everything + db so restore is easier.
That is the same how AIO WP Migration works.
You do need to install WP and the plugin, and then use the plugin to import the backup you made using that same plugin.
During the import, if the domain is different, the plugin auto-fixes all the links and options to work.
AIO WP Migration lets you uncheck what you don't want altered in that case (like email domains, for example, if your staging was configured to use the main domain's emails for testing and confirmation).
Not sure anymore which options Updraft provides but keep us updated. After using it a couple of times, I almost never used aio wp again as I always had to find and upload my "pro" plugin, so Updraft was just easier.
@bikegremlin said:
Nah - Updraft Plus is shit for migrating.
I'll stick with the old AIO and maybe figure out a way to remove the limits - or find an alternative option.
Lol! Going to get the AIO subscription?
LOL
I'll look for alternatives - from a company that is not Servmask.
So, did you find a good alternative for your problem?
Here are a few suggestions from our survivor and overlord, AI:
Duplicator (by Snap Creek)
One of the most widely used migration/backup plugins.
Creates a package (ZIP + installer.php) that you upload to the new host.
Handles database serialization issues when changing domains.
Free version works for most sites, Pro adds multisite and cloud storage support.
Wants your money for the pro - if you want to do a migration to a different domain without much hassle.
Free is just a technicality - as is the case with 99.99% of the "backup" plugins.
Sigh.
Migrate Guru (by BlogVault)
Free and optimized for large sites (up to 200 GB).
Runs migrations on their servers, so it doesn’t overload your hosting.
Great for moving between hosts, especially if you don’t want to deal with manual DB edits.
UpdraftPlus
Mainly a backup plugin, but also supports migration/cloning with an add-on (premium).
Lets you backup to cloud storage (Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.) and restore on the new site.
Useless for migration - they want your money.
A lot of it.
Like practically all the backup plugins.
WPvivid Backup & Migration
Free plugin that supports backups and migration.
You can generate a backup on your old site and restore it on the new one.
Supports remote transfer via FTP/SFTP, direct site-to-site migration.
Looks like a beta version - it is a beta version (0.9.119).
BackupBuddy (iThemes, paid)
Long-standing premium plugin for backup + migration.
Allows domain replacement during migration.
More advanced scheduling and storage options.
Didn't try the others yet - apart from the two I commented.
It seems to boil down to not letting a plugin work unless you pay is the name of the game for 99.99% of backup plugins (and many other, but here it seems to be overwhelmingly prevalent).
Capitalism. Folks want money. But it is shady to publish a plugin as "free" - I've got a 10000 free bicycle service services for folks like these! LOL
Comments
I have definitely already used updraft free to import from domain x to domain y and also from domain to subdomain and vice versa. This should work and links are fixed automatically. Not sure about email domain changes, never had to do that personally. You'll have to check on that. But yeah, for migrating sites AIO is still very easy set and forget. That said, all migrations I did with updraft free worked just fine.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Oh, that doesn't sound too well either: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/comments/1lzq464/warning_to_allinone_wp_migration_ltd_holders/
Fwiw WPVivid is developed by some guy from the LE community (forgot who) and also offers unlimited lifetime with lots of features (including pcloud): https://wpvivid.com/pricing/backup-migration
Our legacy licenses for unlimited sites might now actually be limited to 50 sites with new EULA if we accept updates lol
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Very shady (fraudulent IMO).
My licence is still not resolved - 2 workdays silence from the support (maybe they got tired from all the back-and-forth nonsense).
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
So what happened? Did you manage to get it sorted?
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Nope.
Gave up - every reply is "it's all working try without a VPN" (with different wording).
It is fraud.
Also, worth noting, my WP .org review for the plugin is getting blocked/moderated - so can't post it (wasn't anything impolite).
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Well, they basically dont want to support a legacy feature that's not making them money.
(just trying something new)
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
This is not about the support.
Apparently, they went out of their way to prevent their plugin from working for anyone who isn't paying them a subscription - including the owners of the "unlimited lifetime" licences they sold.
That's like me selling you a bike and then breaking it on purpose because I've decided that subscription is better for me.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
That's not a good move, but I am sure their "customers" will forget all about it in 3 months... That's why these people do this kind of stuff. Makes them more money with only a slight hit to their reputation.
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Capitalism actually rewards sociopathy and greed.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
That is what capitalism is. Uneven distribution of salaries, tax and more. Finding companies that in turn fund the government. Basically a hard focus on the capital. Anyway, dont want to make this into a political debate.
So what alternate are you looking at?
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Updraft Plus is the first to try.
If it proves reliable and does all I need it to do in the free version.
https://wordpress.org/plugins/updraftplus/
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
I'm also using it. I like the feature that it can backup to my Google drive. But it's not a migration plugin. Just a backup restore plugin.
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Can't restore a backup on a different domain by importing it there?
That's what I wanted to test.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
i did not try it, so dont know. I usually upload the db manually and make changes needed to run it on different domain...
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
That does work. Did it multiple times. They sell/used to sell(?!) an extra plugin extension for migration but that had extra features I guess. Moving from domain.com.to domain.xyz or sub.domain.com to domain.com never was an issue when I did it. Not sure if they changed anything as I haven't done this in a while, but should still work.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Well, this calls for a good old fashioned trial and error on 2 idlers!
EDIT:
From the plugin page:
Migrate with UpdraftPlus
It’s easy to migrate your WordPress website to another web host, server or domain with this free version of UpdraftPlus.
To migrate, simply download your database, plugins, themes etc. from the source site, then upload them into your destination site.
When migrating, a built-in search-and-replace engine identifies old strings and replaces these to reflect the new location. UpdraftPlus saves you time and reduces the risk of broken links or missing files associated with manual migrations.
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
From what I am reading, it seems updraft free does not backup "wordpress" itself, only the wp-contents folder and database. So on your new server, you still need a valid wordpres installation (with updraft) to be able to restore your site. Seems normal to me...
The premium lets you backup everything + db so restore is easier.
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
That is the same how AIO WP Migration works.
You do need to install WP and the plugin, and then use the plugin to import the backup you made using that same plugin.
During the import, if the domain is different, the plugin auto-fixes all the links and options to work.
AIO WP Migration lets you uncheck what you don't want altered in that case (like email domains, for example, if your staging was configured to use the main domain's emails for testing and confirmation).
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
In that case you should be fine with updraft. Do update us with the differences and what is needed to migrate to a new site and new domain. Maybe a new blog post idea?
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Yeah, that's what I've done when migrating with Updraft free iirc.
Backup on source site. Download backup files.
Create new wp install on destination hosting/domain
Install Updraft free, upload backup files and restore. I think there was a prompt that domain is different and links will be replaced. Worked every time iirc
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Not sure anymore which options Updraft provides but keep us updated. After using it a couple of times, I almost never used aio wp again as I always had to find and upload my "pro" plugin, so Updraft was just easier.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Nah - Updraft Plus is shit for migrating.
I'll stick with the old AIO and maybe figure out a way to remove the limits - or find an alternative option.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Lol! Going to get the AIO subscription?
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
LOL
I'll look for alternatives - from a company that is not Servmask.
If we can't laugh, what can we do?
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
You can always go there with some rakjia and tell them that is really good and drink it all in front of them. Make them jealous like hell
I believe in good luck. Harder that I work ,luckier i get.
So, did you find a good alternative for your problem?
Here are a few suggestions from our survivor and overlord, AI:
Duplicator (by Snap Creek)
Migrate Guru (by BlogVault)
UpdraftPlus
WPvivid Backup & Migration
BackupBuddy (iThemes, paid)
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
FYI:;WPVivid was developed by someone at LE forums.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Huh? Who?!?
Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones to make.
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right.
Forgot the name sadly, but if you look for it they've been present on LE.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Wants your money for the pro - if you want to do a migration to a different domain without much hassle.
Free is just a technicality - as is the case with 99.99% of the "backup" plugins.
Sigh.
Useless for migration - they want your money.
A lot of it.
Like practically all the backup plugins.
Looks like a beta version - it is a beta version (0.9.119).
Didn't try the others yet - apart from the two I commented.
It seems to boil down to not letting a plugin work unless you pay is the name of the game for 99.99% of backup plugins (and many other, but here it seems to be overwhelmingly prevalent).
Capitalism. Folks want money. But it is shady to publish a plugin as "free" - I've got a 10000 free bicycle service services for folks like these! LOL
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources