I would say "don't be a dick" should apply equally to a provider or member.
Your example about Hetzner does not contradict my earlier comment
@msatt said: There has to be a line drawn where node down for X period without any view to fixing means suspend tag.
All the provider needs to do is say (somewhere) what and when things are happening to avoid the suspension.
I don't want to load the mods with any extra work but there should be a standard rule for this.
The provider is not providing, so suspend.
To avoid issues this must be node related NOT user related.
1 month is (I believe) a very reasonable period.
@cybertech
I think these are very reasonable comments particularly
LES isn't paid in anyway to vet providers or enforce/monitor such SLAs
you will still want more providers willing to advertise than not and this doesn't help
I still feel there should be a way to indicate a provider is not providing.
Just throwing out an idea - how about a "Provider not Providing" thread (sticky) in which a provider can be named if the criteria (whatever that is) is met. The provider details could be removed if they subsequently return to normality. The thread should be locked and an entry is made or removed based on confirmed posts by members.
At least this method means vetting of the provider remains consistent and should not stop providers from coming to LES.
Also a regular comment is 'do your own research', well at least the "Provider not providing" thread would be a good starting point.
It's kind of a pain, that, in the days of having the ability to search, people don't want to have to do their own research. Someone else has to do the work to make one's life less of a pain. We're on page 410. Is it really that hard to see what one is buying into?
@skorous said: As opposed to the Complain, Moan, Praise thread which is generally one of the most active threads on the site?
Come on, I think you are just 'discussing' for the sake of it
So what is it, complain, moan or praise - depending upon how quiet people are (because they know what @VirMach is like), visitors could easily get the wrong impression. I agree after my 'discussion' they may get a different impression (I hope).
As far as the OP comment 410 pages - that could be seen as a real positive and would anyone read 410 pages.
I do feel that a number of people on here just feel like 'leave it alone' we are happy but without discussion LES will just remain stagnant.
As far as the OP comment 410 pages - that could be seen as a real positive and would anyone read 410 pages.
virmach.com itself references TrustPilot, where currently the rating is 1.5, so fine, don't depend on LES, which isn't referenced there. Of course, one does have to look past the retarded local site rating of 4.1, but the "Review us on TrustPilot" is right there beside it. TrustPilot prefers recent ratings over ancient ones, so it tries to emphasize current and to diminish ancient history.
Look 'guys' I have tried to have a sensible balanced discussion but we seem to be moving away from the focus. A provider should provide.
A provider could have a brilliant trustpilot but do a runner or something worse. Why should trustpilot or google or anything else be the source of information when there could be the source on LES.
Why should people like me make these 'stupid' comments everything is working fine.....
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I would say "don't be a dick" should apply equally to a provider or member.
Your example about Hetzner does not contradict my earlier comment
All the provider needs to do is say (somewhere) what and when things are happening to avoid the suspension.
I don't want to load the mods with any extra work but there should be a standard rule for this.
The provider is not providing, so suspend.
To avoid issues this must be node related NOT user related.
1 month is (I believe) a very reasonable period.
Virmach is NOT worth the risk.
i think its a little heavy to impose some kind of SLA as:
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
So, did anyone heard anything from VirMach?
Website update, blog update (LOL), ticket update, status update? Anything?
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@cybertech
I think these are very reasonable comments particularly
I still feel there should be a way to indicate a provider is not providing.
Just throwing out an idea - how about a "Provider not Providing" thread (sticky) in which a provider can be named if the criteria (whatever that is) is met. The provider details could be removed if they subsequently return to normality. The thread should be locked and an entry is made or removed based on confirmed posts by members.
At least this method means vetting of the provider remains consistent and should not stop providers from coming to LES.
Also a regular comment is 'do your own research', well at least the "Provider not providing" thread would be a good starting point.
Virmach is NOT worth the risk.
It's kind of a pain, that, in the days of having the ability to search, people don't want to have to do their own research. Someone else has to do the work to make one's life less of a pain. We're on page 410. Is it really that hard to see what one is buying into?
As opposed to the Complain, Moan, Praise thread which is generally one of the most active threads on the site?
Come on, I think you are just 'discussing' for the sake of it
So what is it, complain, moan or praise - depending upon how quiet people are (because they know what @VirMach is like), visitors could easily get the wrong impression. I agree after my 'discussion' they may get a different impression (I hope).
As far as the OP comment 410 pages - that could be seen as a real positive and would anyone read 410 pages.
I do feel that a number of people on here just feel like 'leave it alone' we are happy but without discussion LES will just remain stagnant.
Virmach is NOT worth the risk.
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virmach.com.> @msatt said:
virmach.com itself references TrustPilot, where currently the rating is 1.5, so fine, don't depend on LES, which isn't referenced there. Of course, one does have to look past the retarded local site rating of 4.1, but the "Review us on TrustPilot" is right there beside it. TrustPilot prefers recent ratings over ancient ones, so it tries to emphasize current and to diminish ancient history.
Look 'guys' I have tried to have a sensible balanced discussion but we seem to be moving away from the focus.
A provider should provide.
A provider could have a brilliant trustpilot but do a runner or something worse. Why should trustpilot or google or anything else be the source of information when there could be the source on LES.
Why should people like me make these 'stupid' comments everything is working fine.....
Virmach is NOT worth the risk.