Has anyone used Wasabi Hot Storage?
I am looking for a place to store a ~5 terabytes of data (for now, I expect it to grow). One of those fancy AI search tools suggested Wasabi Hot Storage, which appears to be an S3 compatible storage bucket. They look intriguing: $7 per tb per month without egress or API fees. It seems like there are some upsides and downsides:
Upsides:
S3 compatible
No having to manage individual servers - (maybe not an upside if you have to manage cache servers)
Unlimited bandwidth without API fees
Seem to have been around for at least a year and aren't just a summer vacation host
Downsides:
More expensive than BuyVM or dedicated server options
Where is there data located -- is the data secure from prying eyes?
I didn't see it on bikegremlin's list of cloud providers, so that's why I'm asking if anyone else has had experience with them.
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You can set where you want your data stored location wise. Just encrypt it and they can't see it.
Recommended hosts:
Letbox, Data ideas, Hetzner
Looks good. Are they new in the market?
Haven't listed them - that's true.
I know a guy who's happy with it for years now (in terms of upload & download speed, & uptime).
Could be the optimal choice.
Depends on what you need the storage for.
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Those are basically the three most important things when it comes to storage so that's good news.
They also don't chagre extra for egress, while Hetzner Object storage which may be cheaper "on paper" will charge extra for that, and may end up being more expensive in total.
Backblaze can be rather slow in my experience, so that is a downside, despite perhaps lower pricing (though they do charge egress too).
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They are being recommended as a BackBlaze alternative from time to time, but not so frequently.
I believe someone mentioned they may start complaining if your monthly BW gets over like 20-30 × your data size.
No.
IIRC, @jarland been using them for quite a while.
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Nice, hopefully I don't need DataRecovery
Nope. 8 year old company
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasabi_Technologies
iirc they were the wave of companies trying to challenge AWS's S3 before B2 was created
I should've read the FAQs before posting:
I really hope so.
Though equally painful, a ton of wasabi could still be cheaper.
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Everyone considering Wasabi should take a look at https://wasabi.com/pricing/faq . Each month they'll bill for minimum 1TB, even if you only have 50KB stored with them, and they'll bill for 90 days of storage even if you delete your 50KB after 5 minutes.
Thanks for the information
https://docs.wasabi.com/docs/how-does-wasabis-minimum-storage-duration-policy-work
nvm - wrong thread
I started a Piefed server in September and use Wasabi for storage. One of the reasons I went with them is due to their partnership with CloudFlare and free egress. No complaints so far!
USA
us-east-1 (N. Virginia) Iron Mountain, 11680 Hayden Rd, Manassas, VA 20109, USA
us-east-2 (N. Virginia) Same
us-central-1 (Texas) Flexential, 3500 E Plano Pkwy, Plano, TX 75074, USA
us-west-1 (Oregon) Flexential, 5737 NE Huffman St, Hillsboro, OR 97124, USA
us-west-2 (California) Stack Infrastructure, 2001 Fortune Dr, San Jose, CA 95131, USA
ca-central-1 (Canada) Equinix TR6, 30 Bramt-tree Court, Brampton, ON L6S 5Z7, Canada
Europe/Middle East/Africa
eu-central-1 (Amsterdam) Equinix AM4, Science Park, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1098 XH
eu-central-2 (Frankfurt) Equinix FR2, Friesstrasse 26 / Entrance via Kruppstrasse 121-127, 60388 Frankfurt, Germany
eu-west-1 (UK) Equinix LD7, 1 Banbury Ave, Slough SL1 4LH, United Kingdom
eu-west-3 (UK) Digital Realty LHR13, Fountain Court, Cox Lane, Chessington KT9 1SJ, United Kingdom
eu-west-2 (Paris) Equinix PA3, 114 Rue Ambroise Croizat, Saint Denis 93200, France
eu-south-1 (Milan) Retelit Irideos Avalon 3, Via Bisceglie 95, Milano MI 20152, Italy
Asia-Pacific
ap-northeast-1 (Tokyo) NTT DOCOMO BUSINESS, TK10, 5 Chome-1-12 Shimorenjaku, Mitaka, Tokyo 181-0013, Japan
ap-northeast-2 (Osaka) NTT DOCOMO BUSINESS, OS7, 3-2 Odatoshibacho, Ibaraki City, Osaka 567-0013, Japan
ap-southeast-1 (Singapore) Equinix SG4, 7 Tai Seng Drive, Singapore 535218
ap-southeast-2 (Sydney) Equinix SY5, Unit B, 200 Bourke Road, Alexandria, Sydney NSW 2015, Australia
Source: https://docs.wasabi.com/v1/docs/where-is-my-data-stored-and-how-are-wasabis-storage-regions-secured
Please, stop. I don't need to buy this.
THIS. Whatever you store and then delete - even if for 3 seconds, they maintain archive of and bill you for 3 months. I tried them for some tertiary VirtFusion backups and it ended up being like 5x the cost of Backblaze. In the end it was far cheaper to deploy another node of my own with MinIO on it.
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FYI: https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/comments/1hhrpsn/where_was_i_when_wasabi_corrupted_most_of_their/
I heard advertisements for them ~15 years ago (on Steve Gibson's podcast before SQRL was anounced), so they're relatively new but not that new. I recall they used to put/requested custom firmware on SMR HDD's for cold storage, but maybe that's not what they do with hot storage.
Somewhat off topic (and a genuine question) : is that true for VPS? I can encrypt storage, but would a VPS be a safe stepping stone for SSH access to other locations?
I'd say the short answer is "well maybe." But taking a step back, if the host isn't exposing the processor-based memory encryption into the VM, then even your encrypted file system isn't as secure as it should be...
In either case, would in-memory processes be safe from prying eyes? Can SSH keys easily be sniffed, if the hoster is inclined do listen in on what's happening on their servers?
I’d say if you’re at the point of those things being a concern - then a shared platform in VPS/VDS likely isn’t the optimum path for you.
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The intention of TDX is to provide memory safety to VM processes for trustable computing, but echoing bingobangobongo, a shared platform may not the be the best route for someone who needs to be in total control of their security.