@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
Can you give a name of the enterprise hosting?
Our companies are siloed. Velox Media inc operates as a separate entity as does all the others. Private companies aren't requires or encouraged to disclosed specific business relationships. I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
Do you ask this same information with the other providers or are we just singled out here? Ever since I learned about low end hosting I've noticed a theme, there seems to be no care for any due diligence then once one provider provides anything its an attack. We've provided all proper registrations and all have been verified, yet it seems no other provider has been requested of this.
I'm happy to give all the information required and it seems I've given much more than any other provider. We 3 weeks old and have more accreditations verifications than anyone else it seems. We're STILL waiting on these verifications from a few of our hosting providers which we've asked day 1, and their our vendors.
Do you have services with us? Did you have them? How are/were they? What's the status of them? Care to share some info about your experiences with everyone?
Do you have services with us? Did you have them? How are/were they? What's the status of them? Care to share some info about your experiences with everyone?
VeloxMedia took my money and did not provide the service as expected for a whole year. VeloxMedia is an exit scam operation - I do not recommend them. RUN AWAY!
I reserve the right to license all of my content under: CC BY-NC-ND. Whatever happens on this forum should stay on this forum.
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
Can you give a name of the enterprise hosting?
Our companies are siloed. Velox Media inc operates as a separate entity as does all the others. Private companies aren't requires or encouraged to disclosed specific business relationships. I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
Do you ask this same information with the other providers or are we just singled out here? Ever since I learned about low end hosting I've noticed a theme, there seems to be no care for any due diligence then once one provider provides anything its an attack. We've provided all proper registrations and all have been verified, yet it seems no other provider has been requested of this.
I'm happy to give all the information required and it seems I've given much more than any other provider. We 3 weeks old and have more accreditations verifications than anyone else it seems. We're STILL waiting on these verifications from a few of our hosting providers which we've asked day 1, and their our vendors.
Its for my own security, money wont be spend on beginners hosting stage. A minimum of 5 years in the market is a must to be aknowledged by me.
Isn't private same as sole trader? Whatever, we will see in the future and how its success.
@Veloxmedia said:
I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
The OpenAI Foundation owns 26%, Microsoft owns 27%, various employees and investors own 47%.
The names of the members of the board is listed on the website.
Do you have services with us? Did you have them? How are/were they? What's the status of them? Care to share some info about your experiences with everyone?
VeloxMedia took my money and did not provide the service as expected for a whole year. VeloxMedia is an exit scam operation - I do not recommend them. RUN AWAY!
So the service was great for a while? Did you chargeback?
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
Can you give a name of the enterprise hosting?
Our companies are siloed. Velox Media inc operates as a separate entity as does all the others. Private companies aren't requires or encouraged to disclosed specific business relationships. I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
Do you ask this same information with the other providers or are we just singled out here? Ever since I learned about low end hosting I've noticed a theme, there seems to be no care for any due diligence then once one provider provides anything its an attack. We've provided all proper registrations and all have been verified, yet it seems no other provider has been requested of this.
I'm happy to give all the information required and it seems I've given much more than any other provider. We 3 weeks old and have more accreditations verifications than anyone else it seems. We're STILL waiting on these verifications from a few of our hosting providers which we've asked day 1, and their our vendors.
Its for my own security, money wont be spend on beginners hosting stage. A minimum of 5 years in the market is a must to be aknowledged by me.
Isn't private same as sole trader? Whatever, we will see in the future and how its success.
How are you verifying the 5 years?
No we're a corporation registered in the US. Completely different than han a single person sole trader. Only difference between us and a public corporation is we don't need to disclose financial data to the public as our shareholders are private.
@Veloxmedia said:
I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
The OpenAI Foundation owns 26%, Microsoft owns 27%, various employees and investors own 47%.
The names of the members of the board is listed on the website.
It's the 47% that I'm concerned with and we don't know. They're an oddball because they took over a non-profit and now is for-profit with a bunch of very sketchy stuff in the background. Nonprofit must list board members and structure as well as financial information.
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
Can you give a name of the enterprise hosting?
Our companies are siloed. Velox Media inc operates as a separate entity as does all the others. Private companies aren't requires or encouraged to disclosed specific business relationships. I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
Do you ask this same information with the other providers or are we just singled out here? Ever since I learned about low end hosting I've noticed a theme, there seems to be no care for any due diligence then once one provider provides anything its an attack. We've provided all proper registrations and all have been verified, yet it seems no other provider has been requested of this.
I'm happy to give all the information required and it seems I've given much more than any other provider. We 3 weeks old and have more accreditations verifications than anyone else it seems. We're STILL waiting on these verifications from a few of our hosting providers which we've asked day 1, and their our vendors.
When one of your selling points is that your "big in enterprise hosting", it doesn't seem hugely unreasonable to ask you to back that up.
If you're not willing to reveal the "big enterprise" provider you claim to be a part of, why bring it up?
@skorous said:
I'm not involved in this in anyway but I have a question if you will. You say you're fully GDPR compliant. I was under the impression that GDPR would have made acquiring the customer base as you did very difficult if not impossible. Is that impression incorrect and if so how?
@arirang said:
Again this shit host makes people or at least me stressful. I don't care who you are behind the scene. Veloxmedia brand itself does.
It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
Can you give a name of the enterprise hosting?
Our companies are siloed. Velox Media inc operates as a separate entity as does all the others. Private companies aren't requires or encouraged to disclosed specific business relationships. I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
Do you ask this same information with the other providers or are we just singled out here? Ever since I learned about low end hosting I've noticed a theme, there seems to be no care for any due diligence then once one provider provides anything its an attack. We've provided all proper registrations and all have been verified, yet it seems no other provider has been requested of this.
I'm happy to give all the information required and it seems I've given much more than any other provider. We 3 weeks old and have more accreditations verifications than anyone else it seems. We're STILL waiting on these verifications from a few of our hosting providers which we've asked day 1, and their our vendors.
When one of your selling points is that your "big in enterprise hosting", it doesn't seem hugely unreasonable to ask you to back that up.
If you're not willing to reveal the "big enterprise" provider you claim to be a part of, why bring it up?
We're explaining how we have a huge competitive advantage and our pricing will reflect this.
It's not a selling point and we don't have it listed anywhere. We're not even actively promoting or selling right now.
@skorous said:
I'm not involved in this in anyway but I have a question if you will. You say you're fully GDPR compliant. I was under the impression that GDPR would have made acquiring the customer base as you did very difficult if not impossible. Is that impression incorrect and if so how?
This question might have been missed
It's not at all difficult. What would make it difficult?
There's a lot of misunderstanding with GDPR and a lot of people seem to like to misread the requirements to make an issue that isn't there. I'm not an expert on GDPR so don't handle this side of things but we have in house council and hired GDPR specialized legal council to ensure we're fully compliant. If any issues you can file a formal complaint with us on our ICO listing as we're properly registered with them.
Note, it seems most other providers aren't registered with the ICO
Our web team is working on the site. We kicked them off editing prod as they kept causing issues (we never let them edit live sites but this was a rush) I just messaged them to get this fixed in live. I think our cache updates every 4 hours so should be fixed in 4.5 hours or so.
@Veloxmedia said: Note, it seems most other providers aren't registered with the ICO
What is your ICO registration number?
And when will you fix the website so links are clickable and don't just pop up with a contact form?
How many other providers have you asked for their ICO registration number?
I asked you because you specifically mentioned you were ICO registered and I wanted to confirm that.
This is where its confusing because in the US you basically have to have a company, and almost everyone has a LLC at least.
I'm also under the assumption that anyone in the EU/UK or that does business in the EU/UK would need to be GDPR and registered with the ICO. And since hosting is a worldwide business it seems very odd that this wouldn't be a basic requirement for everyone. Also very odd that I'm singled out. It seems Lewis didn't have ICO registration and most providers don't seem to have one either.
Again it just points how we're fully compliant, verified and yet still performing fine while under this microscope. Singled out and only 3 weeks old. Meanwhile it seems no one else is compliant yet are somehow immune to any scrutiny for some reason.
@Veloxmedia said: This is where its confusing because in the US you basically have to have a company, and almost everyone has a LLC at least.
It is indeed confusing when you assume everybody is from the US of A and other countries don't exist.
@Veloxmedia said: Also very odd that I'm singled out. It seems Lewis didn't have ICO registration and most providers don't seem to have one either.
I don't know anybody called Lewis. I have not been involved in anything to do with Velox Media until this thread was made.
Any other mod would have denied your application from the get go from the shit-show of a thread that exists on LET. I chose to give you an opportunity to respond to concerns made here. But as the poster above pointed out, your tactic seems to be to distract from your own issues and try and make issues with other people. This thread is about a brand that you own. Not about me, or anyone else.
@Veloxmedia said:
I'm also under the assumption that anyone in the EU/UK or that does business in the EU/UK would need to be GDPR and registered with the ICO. And since hosting is a worldwide business it seems very odd that this wouldn't be a basic requirement for everyone.
The ICO is UK-based, so why would anyone outside the UK care about the ICO?
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It seems the problem is no one seems to care to check company details before buying. Apparently people are just buying from anyone with a website.
Would you feel less stressful if we renamed the new company something else? Not sure how that makes a difference. The point in keeping the existing customers running was to keep the old company name.
The hardware looks rented to me, not owned. Do you post things from benthost?
We're working on moving services to our hardware. It's a process. We're still waiting on our ASN which we need before we're able to announce our IPs.
We're not in any rush to get things migrated and want to do it right. We should have 2 US east DCs opened in the next 2 weeks.
The reason we got into lower end hosting is because we're big in enterprise hosting and basically get hardware for free with all the licensing/warranty/support.
We'll still keep a lot of the rented hardware with established relationships and long term commitments, especially in regions we don't have a footprint. Our goal is to expand services and offerings.
We're also learning what the market actually wants and will use new sales data to determine where to expand. But I feel lowest price is more important than location. For example electric costs in the US west is 2-3x as much as in the east, and other than IP and support our highest cost is electricity, not hardware.
Can you give a name of the enterprise hosting?
I reserve the right to license all of my content under: CC BY-NC-ND. Whatever happens on this forum should stay on this forum.
Our companies are siloed. Velox Media inc operates as a separate entity as does all the others. Private companies aren't requires or encouraged to disclosed specific business relationships. I'd love to know who all is involved in OpenAI and actually pulling the strings but its normal to keep that info private.
Do you ask this same information with the other providers or are we just singled out here? Ever since I learned about low end hosting I've noticed a theme, there seems to be no care for any due diligence then once one provider provides anything its an attack. We've provided all proper registrations and all have been verified, yet it seems no other provider has been requested of this.
I'm happy to give all the information required and it seems I've given much more than any other provider. We 3 weeks old and have more accreditations verifications than anyone else it seems. We're STILL waiting on these verifications from a few of our hosting providers which we've asked day 1, and their our vendors.
Do you have services with us? Did you have them? How are/were they? What's the status of them? Care to share some info about your experiences with everyone?
VeloxMedia took my money and did not provide the service as expected for a whole year. VeloxMedia is an exit scam operation - I do not recommend them. RUN AWAY!
I reserve the right to license all of my content under: CC BY-NC-ND. Whatever happens on this forum should stay on this forum.
Its for my own security, money wont be spend on beginners hosting stage. A minimum of 5 years in the market is a must to be aknowledged by me.
Isn't private same as sole trader? Whatever, we will see in the future and how its success.
The OpenAI Foundation owns 26%, Microsoft owns 27%, various employees and investors own 47%.
The names of the members of the board is listed on the website.
https://openai.com/our-structure/
So the service was great for a while? Did you chargeback?
How are you verifying the 5 years?
No we're a corporation registered in the US. Completely different than han a single person sole trader. Only difference between us and a public corporation is we don't need to disclose financial data to the public as our shareholders are private.
It's the 47% that I'm concerned with and we don't know. They're an oddball because they took over a non-profit and now is for-profit with a bunch of very sketchy stuff in the background. Nonprofit must list board members and structure as well as financial information.
When one of your selling points is that your "big in enterprise hosting", it doesn't seem hugely unreasonable to ask you to back that up.
If you're not willing to reveal the "big enterprise" provider you claim to be a part of, why bring it up?
This question might have been missed
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We're explaining how we have a huge competitive advantage and our pricing will reflect this.
It's not a selling point and we don't have it listed anywhere. We're not even actively promoting or selling right now.
It's not at all difficult. What would make it difficult?
There's a lot of misunderstanding with GDPR and a lot of people seem to like to misread the requirements to make an issue that isn't there. I'm not an expert on GDPR so don't handle this side of things but we have in house council and hired GDPR specialized legal council to ensure we're fully compliant. If any issues you can file a formal complaint with us on our ICO listing as we're properly registered with them.
Note, it seems most other providers aren't registered with the ICO
What is your ICO registration number?
And when will you fix the website so links are clickable and don't just pop up with a contact form?
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
Here it is. https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/ZC072447
Our web team is working on the site. We kicked them off editing prod as they kept causing issues (we never let them edit live sites but this was a rush) I just messaged them to get this fixed in live. I think our cache updates every 4 hours so should be fixed in 4.5 hours or so.
How many other providers have you asked for their ICO registration number?
Also I noticed you're a provider also. This is your ICO correct?
https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/ZB854911
How come you don't have a DPO registered? Also how come your company isn't registered and just you as a name?
Bold of you to assume I have a company?
I asked you because you specifically mentioned you were ICO registered and I wanted to confirm that.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
All the same double-talk and distraction that got one of his multiple login names booted from LET.
And still misspelling legal "counsel" as "council" despite being corrected there. If you ever meet a lawyer, ask one how to spell, you scammer.
Just chargeback, people, and be done with him. Then watch him relaunch under a different login and "company" name.
And remember, in the U.S., incorporating or creating an LLC for $99 actually protects the scammer, not the customers.
Agreed. Also congrats on your first post
Can you please treat me like a LLM that is stuck with 2023 data and explain in your view what defines "Eric" as a scammer?
Not a defence or a denial.. just looking for it to be put plainly.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
This is where its confusing because in the US you basically have to have a company, and almost everyone has a LLC at least.
I'm also under the assumption that anyone in the EU/UK or that does business in the EU/UK would need to be GDPR and registered with the ICO. And since hosting is a worldwide business it seems very odd that this wouldn't be a basic requirement for everyone. Also very odd that I'm singled out. It seems Lewis didn't have ICO registration and most providers don't seem to have one either.
Again it just points how we're fully compliant, verified and yet still performing fine while under this microscope. Singled out and only 3 weeks old. Meanwhile it seems no one else is compliant yet are somehow immune to any scrutiny for some reason.
It is indeed confusing when you assume everybody is from the US of A and other countries don't exist.
I don't know anybody called Lewis. I have not been involved in anything to do with Velox Media until this thread was made.
Any other mod would have denied your application from the get go from the shit-show of a thread that exists on LET. I chose to give you an opportunity to respond to concerns made here. But as the poster above pointed out, your tactic seems to be to distract from your own issues and try and make issues with other people. This thread is about a brand that you own. Not about me, or anyone else.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
The ICO is UK-based, so why would anyone outside the UK care about the ICO?
So the clown from other green forum has moved here. This is a scammer! I kindly request from moderators to ban this clown.
Tagging some staff: @Mason & @mikho & @bikegremlin & @FrankZ
I reserve the right to license all of my content under: CC BY-NC-ND. Whatever happens on this forum should stay on this forum.
You never tag me
I approved his application to make a statement and respond to the accusations. He likely won't be sticking around.
Are they a scammer solely based on the assumption they are the same person as the previous operation, or otherwise?
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail