Which Forum Software do you like (aside from Vanilla)?

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This discussion is based on a merely playful note by @AnthonySmith about changing the forum to phpBB, but since Vanilla is sort of EOL iirc, what other forum software is there that you like?

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
Another one fell off the wagon. Remember when we used to have a less shitty forum than vanilla?

My first action as a mod with no actual access will be to convert this to phpbb :D

I saw that @bikegremlin uses XenoForo. While it's paid, it's a Forum Engine I, as a forum user, very much liked. I've been a forum member for many years in a community using XenoForo. Woltlab Burning Board was also nice, but I think both are paid. There's also phpBB, Phorum (someone mentioned) and maybe others. What would be the ideal Forum Engine these days?

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  • Usenet :p

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith ModeratorHosting ProviderOGSenpai
    edited 2:28PM

    I am old, so I still appreciate the seperation and logical nature of vBulletin and phpBB, that generic old school mid 2000's era forum style, but it seems these days most people want everything new right in front of them without having to do the dance of going to get the new content.

    I get it, it is engagement hacking, vanilla would never have been my first choice, in fact if I remember right, Flarum was my first choice, it was just not mature enough and at the time I lacked the skills to basically reproduce what we have now in Flarum.

    It was only ever done like this if I am being brutally honest, to create a familiar environment when LET got forked into here, which, in my opinion, was the reason the other 2 forks failed, not because of the people or the intent; this community was built around a format.

    Could it change now? probably.
    Should it? possibly.
    Would it be fun? No x10000 (to convert to an existing thing)

    I think, honestly, given the current situation with Vanilla Open Source not being maintained as of January 2025, I would dump the database and maintain a bespoke solution that looks and acts almost exactly the same, but is going to be more maintainable in the long run and then in the back end actually acts like something written for a hosting community.

    Would be a fun project to take it to the next level, and provide multiple front ends for depending on preference, i mean... how often do you use the tag cloud? :D

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  • If You Want Choose
    Most future-proof & modern Discourse
    Lightweight & simple Flarum
    Stable & traditional XenForo
    Real-time & customizable NodeBB
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    Dissapointing & Slow to Update Simple Machines Forum
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  • Does anyone know of a way to move an existing bbPress forum to a newer modern forum software?

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    @SocksAreComfortable said:

    If You Want Choose
    Dissapointing & Slow to Update Simple Machines Forum

    Say what you will, but I've seen websites running SMF that haven't been touched in 15 years and they haven't been compromised (yet).

    Other than their politics, XenForo is fine, and hence, any of the other rebuilds of vB and everything else from that era- except OpenBB. It had holes so big that it died. Shame, because it was better designed graphically and on userlevel basis than phpBB ever was.

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    @WSS said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:

    If You Want Choose
    Dissapointing & Slow to Update Simple Machines Forum

    Say what you will, but I've seen websites running SMF that haven't been touched in 15 years and they haven't been compromised (yet).

    Other than their politics, XenForo is fine, and hence, any of the other rebuilds of vB and everything else from that era- except OpenBB. It had holes so big that it died. Shame, because it was better designed graphically and on userlevel basis than phpBB ever was.

    yep SMF is like debain... so what if I still run version 5 in prod :D

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    @AnthonySmith said:
    yep SMF is like debain... so what if I still run version 5 in prod :D

    Yeah. I've got a Devuan instance that started out as.. Lenny, too. Just incrementally updated and kept through-line. Same deal with my 25 year old blog. I turned my data into an RSS feed, imported into TextPattern, made a handful of shims, and I've had stable URLs for data that has no reason to be on the Internet any longer other than the fact that I can.

    Hell, you hosted an archive of it for me a few years ago. Thanks again for that. Funny that you came back to the system before I did.

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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer

    @WSS said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:

    If You Want Choose
    Dissapointing & Slow to Update Simple Machines Forum

    Say what you will, but I've seen websites running SMF that haven't been touched in 15 years and they haven't been compromised (yet).

    Other than their politics, XenForo is fine, and hence, any of the other rebuilds of vB and everything else from that era- except OpenBB. It had holes so big that it died. Shame, because it was better designed graphically and on userlevel basis than phpBB ever was.

    Yup.

    Our local motorcycle forum was running PHP 5.4 and old SMF.
    Had to update it when support in the usual shared hosting environment was gone.

    Still on SMF, newer, and newer PHP. Looks like shit now because I suck at design (and it has been abandoned more-less), but hack free still.

    https://www.motomanijaci.com/

    No hacks, no problems.

    Even looks OK on mobile.

    Still, for forum software, my vote goes to XenForo as the least bad.

    Why I chose Xenforo after having tested a bunch both as a user, mod, and even admin in many cases:
    https://www.bikegremlin.net/threads/why-i-chose-to-build-my-forum-with-xenforo.38/

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    How I added that:
    https://www.bikegremlin.net/threads/forum-adverts-google-adsense-poll.397/#post-2857

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith ModeratorHosting ProviderOGSenpai
    edited 4:33PM

    @bikegremlin said: I am particularly proud for finding a way to put Google Analytics and AdSense enabled only for the not-logged-in users.
    That's probably the win-win scenario. Costs get covered, and users don't get bothered (even without any adblockers).
    How I added that:

    That's a pretty cool way to do it.

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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer
    edited 4:39PM

    @AnthonySmith said:

    @bikegremlin said: I am particularly proud for finding a way to put Google Analytics and AdSense enabled only for the not-logged-in users.
    That's probably the win-win scenario. Costs get covered, and users don't get bothered (even without any adblockers).
    How I added that:

    That's a pretty cool way to do it.

    I suppose it also shows my first language as a child was BASIC (on Commodore 64, along with some basic machine to try and get those sounds and colours going). :)

    Hmmm - I think that is Pascal though, on second thought. LOL. :)
    Apart from the all-caps form.

  • That's fair re:SMF. I actually have a forum still running SMF 2.1.4 myself, and apparently need to update to 2.1.6! Though it's no longer open, only archived, which reduces a lot of the attack surface.

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