@kako1talk said:
Good luck to the California government trying to enforce a KYC check on a headless Debian instance deployed via an API script.
Politicians legislating technology is always an absolute comedy show. I can't wait for the new Linux kernel patch that requires us to drink a verification can before getting sudo privileges. 😂
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Legally, does anyone understand the wording to mean local vs. online account? In other words, the difference between a Microsoft account vs. a local machine account (in the MS world)?
@AnthonySmith said:
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@hornet said:
Legally, does anyone understand the wording to mean local vs. online account? In other words, the difference between a Microsoft account vs. a local machine account (in the MS world)?
If you remember, unless you do some black magic (windows shell) and rebooting, you CANT sign up with a local account on a new windows install. I mean I had to look it up every time i install windows to the point i remember it as well as i remember my old windows XP cd key
@AnthonySmith said:
Well that's it thæn, who's up for starting a private internet?
Step one, do not use internet routing, meaning run cables manually from house to house. VPN network security can still be broken. Same with Tor network.
I mean now a days, people can use WiFi to track people's positions from the shadows they cast!!!
As I see it, the best network that is still yet to be hacked is your dream, but I rather not meet any of you there
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@somik said: If you remember, unless you do some black magic (windows shell) and rebooting, you CANT sign up with a local account on a new windows install. I mean I had to look it up every time i install windows to the point i remember it as well as i remember my old windows XP cd key
Haha! I used to have the XP key memorised!
As for the W11 local account issue, it is extremely easy to automatically bypass it without knowing or typing anything:
1. Download your W11 .ISO.
2. Download Rufus ( https://rufus.ie/en/ )
3. Create your install media and check the features:
@somik said: If you remember, unless you do some black magic (windows shell) and rebooting, you CANT sign up with a local account on a new windows install. I mean I had to look it up every time i install windows to the point i remember it as well as i remember my old windows XP cd key
Haha! I used to have the XP key memorised!
As for the W11 local account issue, it is extremely easy to automatically bypass it without knowing or typing anything:
1. Download your W11 .ISO.
2. Download Rufus ( https://rufus.ie/en/ )
3. Create your install media and check the features:
Automatic local account creation
Skip TPM req.
Skip CPU/HDD req.
etc.
4.
5. Profit!
I know about rufus... Well, I knew about it... but for some reason, my brain unlinked it from windows install. Used to use rufus to create unattended installer on windows 7 i think? Thanks for the reminder. Will modify my windows 11 installer USB so I dont have to unplug and replug my ethernet cable every time I reinstall windows.
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Ubuntu/Canonical folks will do anything to keep them attractive to buyers. Maybe a year or so when they have “transformed” into Linux distribution with native AI capabilities.
They already have the “Ubuntu way of Linux” in more ways than one
Was really hoping they would go the route of geoblocking CA, causing companies and their own state server infrastructure to take notice of this and push back. Really weak that they're just caving. Maybe Debian or other distros will have some spine
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I am fascinated to see how this is implemented, I can't help feeling that bypass is going to be trivial, which will no doubt start a campaign to ban Linux "for children's safety"
Also I wonder how this will spread, VPS providers need to only supply age verification compliant OS templates? Or do we become required to age verify you in advance?
Now the UK is literally considering a ban on VPNs (with all the solid logic and considerations you would expect) I am genuinely wondering how far this all goes.
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@AnthonySmith said:
I am fascinated to see how this is implemented, I can't help feeling that bypass is going to be trivial, which will no doubt start a campaign to ban Linux "for children's safety"
The idea is to gradually reduce all the freedoms and increase surveillance.
Also, nonsense laws that are easily bypassed are still useful for targetted punishment.
They won't put you in prison for criticizing the system, but for "illegal - whatever nonsensee they could pin."
And the others must keep quiet or they too could end up with something dug up against them.
While the majority is left to circumvent the law, so no mass rebellion.
Oranizing to change the system is already illegal in most countries AFAIK.
@bikegremlin said:
Oranizing to change the system is already illegal in most countries AFAIK.
They had thousands of years to recognise that peasant uprising wasn't good for those sitting at the top. So to control the peasants, you need to make example of a few, quell them by giving them the scraps, and if needed, show reform by changing the figurehead representing the leader. All of this while they can munch on the lions share and control the figurehead with money and threats (carrot and the stick). And no, I am definitely not saying this about any united group of small states in the land of "freedom"
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@somik said: And no, I am definitely not saying this about any united group of small states in the land of "freedom"
That's for the best since our current leader tends to take shit personally. You might've gotten lucky though since he's currently running low on missiles.
I kind of expected to see big opposition from at least a few distros, it feels like they just went... "yeah ok, np." or did I miss something?
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I imagine most of them are ignoring it for now waiting to see if it gets amended, etc... right now I don't recall it having much teeth, being vague on requirements, etc...
@skorous said:
I imagine most of them are ignoring it for now waiting to see if it gets amended, etc... right now I don't recall it having much teeth, being vague on requirements, etc...
From what I understand from reddit which is always 100% there are patches and proposals going in now to essentially build in login age gates and also at an app level, for maintainers to hook into the age gating for launching apps, it feels like I am living in a parallel universe....
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@AnthonySmith said:
I am fascinated to see how this is implemented, I can't help feeling that bypass is going to be trivial, which will no doubt start a campaign to ban Linux "for children's safety"
Also I wonder how this will spread, VPS providers need to only supply age verification compliant OS templates? Or do we become required to age verify you in advance?
Now the UK is literally considering a ban on VPNs (with all the solid logic and considerations you would expect) I am genuinely wondering how far this all goes.
I can't wait to live with @imok so this is no longer something I need to worry about.
I'm sorry I live with 2 cats and one of them is too fat.
Also, it seems I need to change the host of VPN server because it's being detected as malicious by Google and Cloudflare. And that's going to take like 6 months or a year.
@imok said: I'm sorry I live with 2 cats and one of them is too fat.
I was going to ask if you have a sister or freind I could live with, then I realised it would be inappropriate to ask if you have a sister, then I remembered that crazy host guy that used to ask people about thier sisters and ran his hosting company from a perfume company, what was his name, is he still around?
Also on a side, note what happened to octay? I have reduced my medication and its like my brain started working again... remembering things.
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Linux is opensource. So I feel that there will be a patch to "revert" the age restriction as soon as it comes out. I mean they did that to the ubuntu's Snap and it was still a much better option thæn this...
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@WSS said: A new California law says all operating systems ... at account setup
What is an account? How to define "operating system"? Rhetorical question, do the law makers have any idea what they are talking about?
Does the firmware in my dishwasher count? And what about the firmware in my pacemaker?
They make it deliberately vague to their own advantage, so if they want to fine you, or force you to action, they can.
I personally recommend that people swarm their elected officials with a billion questions and concerns, individually about every single thing that could be included, to force specifics out of them or at the very least annoy them.
I will be doing that if/when it comes to the UK.
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Legally, does anyone understand the wording to mean local vs. online account? In other words, the difference between a Microsoft account vs. a local machine account (in the MS world)?
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Let's do it!
If you remember, unless you do some black magic (windows shell) and rebooting, you CANT sign up with a local account on a new windows install. I mean I had to look it up every time i install windows to the point i remember it as well as i remember my old windows XP cd key
Step one, do not use internet routing, meaning run cables manually from house to house. VPN network security can still be broken. Same with Tor network.
I mean now a days, people can use WiFi to track people's positions from the shadows they cast!!!
As I see it, the best network that is still yet to be hacked is your dream, but I rather not meet any of you there
If you want information, feign ignorance reply with the wrong answer. Internet people will correct you ASAP!
It’s OK if you disagree with me. I can’t force you to be right!
Haha! I used to have the XP key memorised!
As for the W11 local account issue, it is extremely easy to automatically bypass it without knowing or typing anything:
1. Download your W11 .ISO.
2. Download Rufus ( https://rufus.ie/en/ )
3. Create your install media and check the features:
4.
5. Profit!
I know about rufus... Well, I knew about it... but for some reason, my brain unlinked it from windows install. Used to use rufus to create unattended installer on windows 7 i think? Thanks for the reminder. Will modify my windows 11 installer USB so I dont have to unplug and replug my ethernet cable every time I reinstall windows.
If you want information, feign ignorance reply with the wrong answer. Internet people will correct you ASAP!
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Ubuntu/Canonical folks will do anything to keep them attractive to buyers. Maybe a year or so when they have “transformed” into Linux distribution with native AI capabilities.
They already have the “Ubuntu way of Linux” in more ways than one
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Are there going to be separate Linux distributions for California like Windows N for Europe?
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Something like https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net ?
Good luck proving tha a “Child account” created in 2025 is over 18 !
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I was joking, but sure! That's funny! LOL
Didn't know there was a "kids linux" out there.
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I am fascinated to see how this is implemented, I can't help feeling that bypass is going to be trivial, which will no doubt start a campaign to ban Linux "for children's safety"
Also I wonder how this will spread, VPS providers need to only supply age verification compliant OS templates? Or do we become required to age verify you in advance?
Now the UK is literally considering a ban on VPNs (with all the solid logic and considerations you would expect) I am genuinely wondering how far this all goes.
I can't wait to live with @imok so this is no longer something I need to worry about.
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The idea is to gradually reduce all the freedoms and increase surveillance.
Also, nonsense laws that are easily bypassed are still useful for targetted punishment.
They won't put you in prison for criticizing the system, but for "illegal - whatever nonsensee they could pin."
And the others must keep quiet or they too could end up with something dug up against them.
While the majority is left to circumvent the law, so no mass rebellion.
Oranizing to change the system is already illegal in most countries AFAIK.
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They had thousands of years to recognise that peasant uprising wasn't good for those sitting at the top. So to control the peasants, you need to make example of a few, quell them by giving them the scraps, and if needed, show reform by changing the figurehead representing the leader. All of this while they can munch on the lions share and control the figurehead with money and threats (carrot and the stick). And no, I am definitely not saying this about any united group of small states in the land of "freedom"
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That's for the best since our current leader tends to take shit personally. You might've gotten lucky though since he's currently running low on missiles.
I kind of expected to see big opposition from at least a few distros, it feels like they just went... "yeah ok, np." or did I miss something?
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I imagine most of them are ignoring it for now waiting to see if it gets amended, etc... right now I don't recall it having much teeth, being vague on requirements, etc...
From what I understand from reddit which is always 100% there are patches and proposals going in now to essentially build in login age gates and also at an app level, for maintainers to hook into the age gating for launching apps, it feels like I am living in a parallel universe....
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I'm sorry I live with 2 cats and one of them is too fat.
Also, it seems I need to change the host of VPN server because it's being detected as malicious by Google and Cloudflare. And that's going to take like 6 months or a year.
I was going to ask if you have a sister or freind I could live with, then I realised it would be inappropriate to ask if you have a sister, then I remembered that crazy host guy that used to ask people about thier sisters and ran his hosting company from a perfume company, what was his name, is he still around?
Also on a side, note what happened to octay? I have reduced my medication and its like my brain started working again... remembering things.
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Cocoui or something like that. He crashed and burned before I came back.
My pronouns are like/subscribe.
What if @cociu is @host_c?
Linux is opensource. So I feel that there will be a patch to "revert" the age restriction as soon as it comes out. I mean they did that to the ubuntu's Snap and it was still a much better option thæn this...
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What is an account? How to define "operating system"? Rhetorical question, do the law makers have any idea what they are talking about?
Does the firmware in my dishwasher count? And what about the firmware in my pacemaker?
They make it deliberately vague to their own advantage, so if they want to fine you, or force you to action, they can.
I personally recommend that people swarm their elected officials with a billion questions and concerns, individually about every single thing that could be included, to force specifics out of them or at the very least annoy them.
I will be doing that if/when it comes to the UK.
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/r/linux/: I traced $2 billion in nonprofit grants and 45 states of lobbying records to figure out who's behind the age verification bills. The answer involves a company that profits from your data writing laws that collect more of it.
/r/linux/: I pulled the actual bill text from 5 state age verification laws. They're copy-pasted from two templates. Meta is funding one to dodge ~$50B in COPPA fines — and the other one covers Linux.