Not sure how many here are Vultr High Frequency Server fanboys and girls (I am not).
Fo rsake of comparison, here are the charts to compare against your Nexusbytes Server. Not sure which Benchmark script they use.
Not sure how many here are Vultr High Frequency Server fanboys and girls (I am not).
Fo rsake of comparison, here are the charts to compare against your Nexusbytes Server. Not sure which Benchmark script they use.
Due to nature of storage VPS, usage of Next Cloud or similar cloud syncing software is not recomended. You will notice degraded performance.
Boss, what’s the backstory here? I see the STORAGE-3T with 3GB Ram and 4vCores at 3.5ghz. This is way above what Nextcloud recommends.
What NextCloud recommends are the bare minimum, equivalent to running on a Raspberry Pi. NC requires Redis and beefy PHP settings, which means a healthy amount of RAM. It also benefits greatly from having the DB on an SSD. There are multiple scripts out there solely for installing a tuned up NextCloud.
Due to nature of storage VPS, usage of Next Cloud or similar cloud syncing software is not recomended. You will notice degraded performance.
Boss, what’s the backstory here? I see the STORAGE-3T with 3GB Ram and 4vCores at 3.5ghz. This is way above what Nextcloud recommends.
What NextCloud recommends are the bare minimum, equivalent to running on a Raspberry Pi. NC requires Redis and beefy PHP settings, which means a healthy amount of RAM. It also benefits greatly from having the DB on an SSD. There are multiple scripts out there solely for installing a tuned up NextCloud.
Agreed, but I have used Redis and whatnot on 2-3GB ram VPS. I guess that this depends on how many (concurrent) users the NextCloud instance would have? Kudos to @seriesn to give the warning, by all means.
@AC_Fan said:
There are multiple scripts out there solely for installing a tuned up NextCloud.
For example?
ReinerNippes has an Ansible script, NextCloudPi was also made to make it run better (it's not solely for the Pi), there's some guy who runs a website almost entirely for tips (can't remember the name, sorry).
Due to nature of storage VPS, usage of Next Cloud or similar cloud syncing software is not recomended. You will notice degraded performance.
Boss, what’s the backstory here? I see the STORAGE-3T with 3GB Ram and 4vCores at 3.5ghz. This is way above what Nextcloud recommends.
What NextCloud recommends are the bare minimum, equivalent to running on a Raspberry Pi. NC requires Redis and beefy PHP settings, which means a healthy amount of RAM. It also benefits greatly from having the DB on an SSD. There are multiple scripts out there solely for installing a tuned up NextCloud.
Agreed, but I have used Redis and whatnot on 2-3GB ram VPS. I guess that this depends on how many (concurrent) users the NextCloud instance would have? Kudos to @seriesn to give the warning, by all means.
Yeah I suppose so, at 3GB RAM, it should work fine for a few users, the bottleneck will become the DB probably. NextCloud is heavy, like pretty heavy. Only those spirits damned Atlassian products are worse than it in terms of bloat.
@AC_Fan said: Yeah I suppose so, at 3GB RAM, it should work fine for a few users, the bottleneck will become the DB probably. NextCloud is heavy, like pretty heavy. Only those spirits damned Atlassian products are worse than it in terms of bloat.
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Jeez, I have just installed it on my Synology. It's actually heavier than Confluence. It somehow uses less resources, but it's way slower. Now I understand.
@AC_Fan said: Yeah I suppose so, at 3GB RAM, it should work fine for a few users, the bottleneck will become the DB probably. NextCloud is heavy, like pretty heavy. Only those spirits damned Atlassian products are worse than it in terms of bloat.
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Jeez, I have just installed it on my Synology. It's actually heavier than Confluence. It somehow uses less resources, but it's way slower. Now I understand.
The amount of stuff you have to keep track of is pretty disturbing, really.
Don't use External Storages too much, because a local cache isn't kept, so it's ridiculously slow.
Don't depend on the JIT Preview Generator, because it is ridiculously slow.
Don't add too many plugins, because they aren't well maintained and are therefore, you guessed it, slow.
And yet, it's still the best option for a self hosted cloud storage. Sad life. It's mostly held back by the architecture they used in the beginning, and rather than fixing it, they choose to just add half-assed features. The improvements in PHP 7 and 7.3 have helped a fair bit, but at the end of the day, how many ways can you polish up a turd?
Systems tend to be well balanced, so TBs of storage comes with plenty of RAM and CPU. That's the only reason it's so widely used, because mostly it doesn't matter how bloated it is, when the resources aren't going to be used otherwise. Plenty of similar systems manage to run in 25% or less resources.
Rereading my comment, I feel like I might have come across a bit too critical of NC. I'm more used to stuff like RClone, Redis, Nginx etc. which were built with performance, reliability and ease-of-use as the foremost concerns. After that, any project that comes from an enterprise point of view tend to annoy me a bit more than they should.
When setup properly, NC is mostly fine. It's just that it takes a bit too much effort to set it up that annoys me.
@AC_Fan said:
Rereading my comment, I feel like I might have come across a bit too critical of NC. I'm more used to stuff like RClone, Redis, Nginx etc. which were built with performance, reliability and ease-of-use as the foremost concerns. After that, any project that comes from an enterprise point of view tend to annoy me a bit more than they should.
When setup properly, NC is mostly fine. It's just that it takes a bit too much effort to set it up that annoys me.
Makes 2 of us. I find the UI kind of annoying. Or I am simply getting old. Or both.
For my personal usage, been using owncloud for almost 6 years without any issue.
@AC_Fan said:
Rereading my comment, I feel like I might have come across a bit too critical of NC. I'm more used to stuff like RClone, Redis, Nginx etc. which were built with performance, reliability and ease-of-use as the foremost concerns. After that, any project that comes from an enterprise point of view tend to annoy me a bit more than they should.
When setup properly, NC is mostly fine. It's just that it takes a bit too much effort to set it up that annoys me.
Makes 2 of us. I find the UI kind of annoying. Or I am simply getting old. Or both.
For my personal usage, been using owncloud for almost 6 years without any issue.
It's probably both.
OwnCloud is stable, but old. They didn't develop much for years I think, so NC might (might) be faster than them. I wish somebody would just make a open source clone of FileRun, that software seems decently made, all things considered.
I get the nextcloud thing.. to a new user, you end up with a nosql database (disk io heavy) and a default set of plugins/apps that also thrash disk (activity, photos, versions, etc) and the whole shebang starts bringing a spinning disk to it's knees. The bigger the store of files the bigger the problem gets.
My $0.02
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@dahartigan said:
I get the nextcloud thing.. to a new user, you end up with a nosql database (disk io heavy) and a default set of plugins/apps that also thrash disk (activity, photos, versions, etc) and the whole shebang starts bringing a spinning disk to it's knees. The bigger the store of files the bigger the problem gets.
My $0.02
It is like the whole plugin thingy with wordpress. You get carried away and then next thing you know, everything is slow.
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Lmao this one is hilarious.
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I swear that’s my wife right there ?
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I love seeing the classic memes reinvented for nerds
https://inceptionhosting.com
Please do not use the PM system here for Inception Hosting support issues.
The first VPS I got from Nexusbytes, last year.
Ran a BM again before I thought I would cancel. You know how the story might end.
Updated:
Not sure how many here are Vultr High Frequency Server fanboys and girls (I am not).
Fo rsake of comparison, here are the charts to compare against your Nexusbytes Server. Not sure which Benchmark script they use.
https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/
on that note...
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Yeah, that's not the sort of deal you just cancel willy-nilly lol
Me too, especially this one, it's something I'm sure we can all relate to (unless it's just quirky me)
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Good sir,
I applaud your creativity.
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Non - Ryzen VS Ryzen
Boss, what’s the backstory here? I see the STORAGE-3T with 3GB Ram and 4vCores at 3.5ghz. This is way above what Nextcloud recommends.
What NextCloud recommends are the bare minimum, equivalent to running on a Raspberry Pi. NC requires Redis and beefy PHP settings, which means a healthy amount of RAM. It also benefits greatly from having the DB on an SSD. There are multiple scripts out there solely for installing a tuned up NextCloud.
For example?
Agreed, but I have used Redis and whatnot on 2-3GB ram VPS. I guess that this depends on how many (concurrent) users the NextCloud instance would have? Kudos to @seriesn to give the warning, by all means.
ReinerNippes has an Ansible script, NextCloudPi was also made to make it run better (it's not solely for the Pi), there's some guy who runs a website almost entirely for tips (can't remember the name, sorry).
Yeah I suppose so, at 3GB RAM, it should work fine for a few users, the bottleneck will become the DB probably. NextCloud is heavy, like pretty heavy. Only those spirits damned Atlassian products are worse than it in terms of bloat.
>
Jeez, I have just installed it on my Synology. It's actually heavier than Confluence. It somehow uses less resources, but it's way slower. Now I understand.
The amount of stuff you have to keep track of is pretty disturbing, really.
Don't use External Storages too much, because a local cache isn't kept, so it's ridiculously slow.
Don't depend on the JIT Preview Generator, because it is ridiculously slow.
Don't add too many plugins, because they aren't well maintained and are therefore, you guessed it, slow.
And yet, it's still the best option for a self hosted cloud storage. Sad life. It's mostly held back by the architecture they used in the beginning, and rather than fixing it, they choose to just add half-assed features. The improvements in PHP 7 and 7.3 have helped a fair bit, but at the end of the day, how many ways can you polish up a turd?
Systems tend to be well balanced, so TBs of storage comes with plenty of RAM and CPU. That's the only reason it's so widely used, because mostly it doesn't matter how bloated it is, when the resources aren't going to be used otherwise. Plenty of similar systems manage to run in 25% or less resources.
What’s up boss,
Next cloud isn’t the culprit. But people trying to run the full blow suit or those who rely on ui heavily.
I have guys running nextcloud without any issue even on the smaller plans
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Rereading my comment, I feel like I might have come across a bit too critical of NC. I'm more used to stuff like RClone, Redis, Nginx etc. which were built with performance, reliability and ease-of-use as the foremost concerns. After that, any project that comes from an enterprise point of view tend to annoy me a bit more than they should.
When setup properly, NC is mostly fine. It's just that it takes a bit too much effort to set it up that annoys me.
Makes 2 of us. I find the UI kind of annoying. Or I am simply getting old. Or both.
For my personal usage, been using owncloud for almost 6 years without any issue.
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It's probably both.
OwnCloud is stable, but old. They didn't develop much for years I think, so NC might (might) be faster than them. I wish somebody would just make a open source clone of FileRun, that software seems decently made, all things considered.
I get the nextcloud thing.. to a new user, you end up with a nosql database (disk io heavy) and a default set of plugins/apps that also thrash disk (activity, photos, versions, etc) and the whole shebang starts bringing a spinning disk to it's knees. The bigger the store of files the bigger the problem gets.
My $0.02
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It is like the whole plugin thingy with wordpress. You get carried away and then next thing you know, everything is slow.
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To those, who are still contemplating,
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You can watch the video here.
Coming to YABS
Singapore. Upgraded to 3 GB Plan. (and went broke, but that is a different story)
Thu 26 Nov 2020 05:40:45 AM CET Basic System Information: --------------------------------- Processor : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor CPU cores : 2 @ 3792.874 MHz AES-NI : ✔ Enabled VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled RAM : 2.9 GiB Swap : 4.0 GiB Disk : 59.0 GiB fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50): --------------------------------- Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS) ------ | --- ---- | ---- ---- Read | 355.40 MB/s (88.8k) | 3.74 GB/s (58.5k) Write | 356.34 MB/s (89.0k) | 3.76 GB/s (58.8k) Total | 711.74 MB/s (177.9k) | 7.51 GB/s (117.4k) | | Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS) ------ | --- ---- | ---- ---- Read | 4.22 GB/s (8.2k) | 4.09 GB/s (3.9k) Write | 4.44 GB/s (8.6k) | 4.36 GB/s (4.2k) Total | 8.66 GB/s (16.9k) | 8.45 GB/s (8.2k) iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4): --------------------------------- Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | | | Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 353 Mbits/sec | 814 Mbits/sec Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 197 Mbits/sec | 523 Mbits/sec WorldStream | The Netherlands (10G) | busy | 822 Mbits/sec Biznet | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G) | 940 Mbits/sec | 924 Mbits/sec Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 318 Mbits/sec | 692 Mbits/sec Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 348 Mbits/sec | 699 Mbits/sec Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 391 Mbits/sec | 840 Mbits/sec Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test: --------------------------------- Test | Value | Single Core | 1293 Multi Core | 2414 Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4997674———-
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