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continues to rock n delight with some great servers. Here is the Singapore Ryzen, 6 months later. Except for disk speed (that may need some tweaking, best left to the experts) looking good!
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OS : Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (64 Bit)
Virt/Kernel : KVM / 5.4.0-29-generic
CPU Model : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor
CPU Cores : 1 @ 3792.872 MHz x86_64 512 KB Cache
CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled
Load Average : 0.07, 0.06, 0.06
Total Space : 30G (4.5G ~16% used)
Total RAM : 1987 MB (433 MB + 745 MB Buff in use)
Total SWAP : 1023 MB (40 MB in use)
Uptime : 80 days 9:49
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ASN & ISP : AS34081, Server24 Singapore
Organization : Webhosting24 Singapore
Location : Singapore, Singapore / SG
Region :
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## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark:
Single Core : 4966 (EXCELLENT)
Multi Core : 4911
## IO Test
CPU Speed:
bzip2 : 131 MB/s
sha256 : 248 MB/s
md5sum : 567 MB/s
RAM Speed:
Avg. write : 2252.8 MB/s
Avg. read : 6963.2 MB/s
Disk Speed:
1st run : 404 MB/s
2nd run : 160 MB/s
3rd run : 145 MB/s
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Average : 236.3 MB/s
## Asia Speedtest.net
Location Upload Download Ping
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Nearby 534.81 Mbit/s 626.35 Mbit/s 2.369 ms
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India, New Delhi (Weebo) 210.67 Mbit/s 175.70 Mbit/s 72.534 ms
India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 195.65 Mbit/s 238.12 Mbit/s 55.727 ms
India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 287.50 Mbit/s 356.43 Mbit/s 43.033 ms
Sri Lanka, Colombo (Telecom PLC) 360.09 Mbit/s 391.14 Mbit/s 34.499 ms
Pakistan, Islamabad (Telenor) 10.43 Mbit/s 319.73 Mbit/s 108.464 ms
Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 122.70 Mbit/s 85.13 Mbit/s 88.655 ms
Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 153.84 Mbit/s 159.87 Mbit/s 49.884 ms
Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 194.39 Mbit/s 294.48 Mbit/s 77.468 ms
Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 304.28 Mbit/s 285.75 Mbit/s 45.777 ms
Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 253.06 Mbit/s 175.81 Mbit/s 39.288 ms
Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 258.91 Mbit/s 439.02 Mbit/s 54.687 ms
Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 370.51 Mbit/s 115.79 Mbit/s 29.879 ms
Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 352.33 Mbit/s 339.64 Mbit/s 35.751 ms
Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 247.83 Mbit/s 517.10 Mbit/s 8.983 ms
Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 698.80 Mbit/s 861.42 Mbit/s 1.232 ms
Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 488.36 Mbit/s 77.11 Mbit/s 12.491 ms
Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 196.72 Mbit/s 578.38 Mbit/s 28.889 ms
Hong Kong (fdcservers) 327.71 Mbit/s 464.88 Mbit/s 37.596 ms
Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 248.11 Mbit/s 308.23 Mbit/s 49.035 ms
Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 197.47 Mbit/s 30.11 Mbit/s 70.796 ms
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Finished in : 10 min 12 sec
Timestamp : 2021-09-27 16:58:32 GMT
... and here is the one in Munich
OS : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (64 Bit)
Virt/Kernel : KVM / 5.10.0-8-amd64
CPU Model : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz
CPU Cores : 1 @ 2399.982 MHz x86_64 35840 KB Cache
CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled
Load Average : 0.29, 0.18, 0.07
Total Space : 40G (1.7G ~5% used)
Total RAM : 1982 MB (80 MB + 679 MB Buff in use)
Total SWAP : 0 MB (0 MB in use)
Uptime : 0 days 0:12
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ASN & ISP : AS202401, Webhosting24 GmbH
Organization : Webhosting24 GmbH
Location : Munich, Germany / DE
Region : Bavaria
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## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark:
Single Core : 3475 (VERY GOOD)
Multi Core : 3318
## IO Test
CPU Speed:
bzip2 : 104 MB/s
sha256 : 163 MB/s
md5sum : 449 MB/s
RAM Speed:
Avg. write : 2150.4 MB/s
Avg. read : 4676.3 MB/s
Disk Speed:
1st run : 764 MB/s
2nd run : 831 MB/s
3rd run : 872 MB/s
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Average : 822.3 MB/s
## Asia Speedtest.net
Location Upload Download Ping
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Nearby 876.42 Mbit/s 741.54 Mbit/s 2.708 ms
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India, New Delhi (Weebo) 111.04 Mbit/s 186.53 Mbit/s 169.147 ms
India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 11.81 Mbit/s 47.77 Mbit/s 120.183 ms
India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 94.21 Mbit/s 104.41 Mbit/s 140.385 ms
Sri Lanka, Colombo (Telecom PLC) 106.32 Mbit/s 244.74 Mbit/s 170.539 ms
Pakistan, Islamabad (Telenor) 13.29 Mbit/s 235.05 Mbit/s 137.796 ms
Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 100.15 Mbit/s 101.43 Mbit/s 113.099 ms
Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 67.68 Mbit/s 119.19 Mbit/s 199.685 ms
Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 67.26 Mbit/s 102.53 Mbit/s 212.469 ms
Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 67.19 Mbit/s 145.49 Mbit/s 214.158 ms
Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 65.08 Mbit/s 73.48 Mbit/s 233.209 ms
Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 75.72 Mbit/s 183.51 Mbit/s 195.972 ms
Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 76.15 Mbit/s 122.63 Mbit/s 191.921 ms
Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 30.22 Mbit/s 74.66 Mbit/s 273.081 ms
Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 102.72 Mbit/s 259.46 Mbit/s 168.317 ms
Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 70.20 Mbit/s 53.93 Mbit/s 160.928 ms
Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 105.69 Mbit/s 156.39 Mbit/s 193.124 ms
Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 21.58 Mbit/s 85.48 Mbit/s 206.355 ms
Hong Kong (fdcservers) 72.42 Mbit/s 183.79 Mbit/s 194.261 ms
Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 16.13 Mbit/s 20.80 Mbit/s 246.277 ms
Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 55.58 Mbit/s 60.14 Mbit/s 239.945 ms
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Finished in : 12 min 26 sec
Macbook Pro Late 2012, with 480 GB Sata NGfF. Since i had posted the YABs, I thought it was fair to post bench.monster also. Network issue not yet addressed.
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Virt/Kernel : Dedicated / 5.13.0-7614-generic
CPU Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
CPU Cores : 4 @ 2560.957 MHz x86_64 3072 KB Cache
CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled
Load Average : 0.83, 0.55, 0.22
Total Space : 447G (305G ~72% used)
Total RAM : 7826 MB (1382 MB + 2295 MB Buff in use)
Total SWAP : 7998 MB (0 MB in use)
Uptime : 0 days 0:2
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ASN & ISP : AS13XXXX
Organization : XXXxXx
Location : XXXx
Region : India
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## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark:
Single Core : 3389 (VERY GOOD)
Multi Core : 6453
## IO Test
CPU Speed:
bzip2 : 102 MB/s
sha256 : 173 MB/s
md5sum : 485 MB/s
RAM Speed:
Avg. write : 3447.5 MB/s
Avg. read : 5734.4 MB/s
Disk Speed:
1st run : 416 MB/s
2nd run : 419 MB/s
3rd run : 388 MB/s
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Average : 407.7 MB/s
## Asia Speedtest.net
Location Upload Download Ping
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Nearby 8.27 Mbit/s 11.42 Mbit/s 10.841 ms
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India, New Delhi (Weebo) 6.85 Mbit/s 9.39 Mbit/s 38.823 ms
India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 6.59 Mbit/s 11.02 Mbit/s 27.584 ms
India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 4.50 Mbit/s 9.88 Mbit/s 6.677 ms
Sri Lanka, Colombo (Telecom PLC) 6.45 Mbit/s 8.78 Mbit/s 39.759 ms
Pakistan, Islamabad (Telenor) 6.16 Mbit/s 9.21 Mbit/s 199.933 ms
Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 4.38 Mbit/s 9.24 Mbit/s 201.376 ms
Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 7.50 Mbit/s 7.78 Mbit/s 94.026 ms
Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 6.42 Mbit/s 11.93 Mbit/s ping error!
Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 5.88 Mbit/s 9.51 Mbit/s 339.947 ms
Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 5.41 Mbit/s 7.23 Mbit/s 212.590 ms
Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 6.25 Mbit/s 11.07 Mbit/s 69.079 ms
Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 2.34 Mbit/s 6.63 Mbit/s 465.340 ms
Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 5.99 Mbit/s 7.28 Mbit/s 102.878 ms
Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 6.43 Mbit/s 9.11 Mbit/s 53.315 ms
Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 5.76 Mbit/s 7.64 Mbit/s 208.099 ms
Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 6.74 Mbit/s 11.36 Mbit/s 116.145 ms
Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 6.70 Mbit/s 9.75 Mbit/s 92.763 ms
Hong Kong (fdcservers) 8.10 Mbit/s 10.00 Mbit/s 78.469 ms
Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 2.96 Mbit/s 9.57 Mbit/s 254.885 ms
Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 7.02 Mbit/s 12.42 Mbit/s 114.814 ms
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Finished in : 20 min 40 sec
Timestamp : 2021-10-06 17:40:16 GMT
Saved in : /root/speedtest.log
Share results:
- https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16372043
Disk Speed:
1st run : 1.0 GB/s
2nd run : 722 MB/s
3rd run : 114 MB/s
Average : 620.0 MB/s
## Global Speedtest.net
Location Upload Download Ping
Nearby 869.57 Mbit/s 873.43 Mbit/s 8.835 ms
USA, New York (Optimum) 402.58 Mbit/s 387.04 Mbit/s 45.575 ms
USA, Chicago (Windstream) 363.91 Mbit/s 457.17 Mbit/s 45.298 ms
USA, Dallas (Frontier) 859.17 Mbit/s 893.23 Mbit/s 2.409 ms
USA, Miami (Sprint) 430.72 Mbit/s 325.63 Mbit/s 37.384 ms
USA, Los Angeles (Windstream) 403.28 Mbit/s 394.96 Mbit/s 39.520 ms
UK, London (toob Ltd) 143.73 Mbit/s 233.09 Mbit/s 107.427 ms
France, Lyon (SFR) 135.80 Mbit/s 118.13 Mbit/s 117.662 ms
Germany, Berlin (DNS:NET) 149.89 Mbit/s 148.83 Mbit/s 132.108 ms
Spain, Madrid (MasMovil) 151.45 Mbit/s 114.98 Mbit/s 126.554 ms
Italy, Rome (Unidata) 140.27 Mbit/s 42.30 Mbit/s 142.132 ms
Russia, Moscow (Rostelecom) 139.65 Mbit/s 126.45 Mbit/s 140.835 ms
Israel, Haifa (013Netvision) 115.07 Mbit/s 84.44 Mbit/s 180.485 ms
India, New Delhi (Weebo) 30.69 Mbit/s 77.73 Mbit/s 261.305 ms
Singapore (FirstMedia) 26.15 Mbit/s 28.40 Mbit/s 216.984 ms
Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 121.54 Mbit/s 70.53 Mbit/s 152.214 ms
Australia, Sydney (Optus) 107.42 Mbit/s 119.35 Mbit/s 183.934 ms
RSA, Randburg (Cool Ideas) 34.02 Mbit/s 87.45 Mbit/s 262.660 ms
Brazil, Sao Paulo (Criare) 72.57 Mbit/s 156.76 Mbit/s 144.257 ms
Finished in : 17 min 20 sec
Timestamp : 2021-10-07 11:11:16 GMT
Saved in : /root/speedtest.log
@Daniel thanks for the Wishosting Ryzen 5900 YABS. I was considering to get this one - except for network speeds- overall looks good. May I request you to run a bench.monster with -in option (or -asia for wider audience)? Would be keen to see what speeds I get. Thanks
@vyas said: . May I request you to run a bench.monster with -in option (or -asia for wider audience)? Would be keen to see what speeds I get.
Sure. Here's the specs again for reference (from the YABS thread):
@Daniel said:
Wishosting $11.99/month sale. Located in France (OVH) but feels very fast and responsive even when connecting from the USA thanks to the fast processor and disk.
KVM SSD NVMe Plus
4 vCPU cores Ryzen 9 5950X
Unlimited CPU cores 3.7GHz Turbo
8GB ECC RAM
500GB SSD NVMe
Unmetered 250Mbps bandwidth
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seems like it's not actually limited to 250Mbps ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Region: Asia https://bench.monster v.1.5.7 2021-10-06
Usage : curl -LsO bench.monster/speedtest.sh; bash speedtest.sh -Asia
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OS : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (64 Bit)
Virt/Kernel : KVM / 5.14.0-0.bpo.2-cloud-amd64
CPU Model : AMD EPYC Processor (with IBPB)
CPU Cores : 4 @ 3393.624 MHz x86_64 512 KB Cache
CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled
Load Average : 0.01, 0.18, 0.11
Total Space : 488G (1.3G ~1% used)
Total RAM : 7958 MB (110 MB + 242 MB Buff in use)
Total SWAP : 3811 MB (0 MB in use)
Uptime : 0 days 0:15
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ASN & ISP : AS16276, OVH SAS
Organization : Ivanov Michael
Location : Paris, France / FR
Region : Île-de-France
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## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark:
Single Core : 6465 (THE BEAST)
Multi Core : 19219
speedtest.sh: line 560: geekbench_claim.url: Permission denied
## IO Test
CPU Speed:
bzip2 : 181 MB/s
sha256 : 338 MB/s
md5sum : 726 MB/s
RAM Speed:
Avg. write : 5461.3 MB/s
Avg. read : 12492.8 MB/s
Disk Speed:
1st run : 1.8 GB/s
2nd run : 1.8 GB/s
3rd run : 1.7 GB/s
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Average : 1809.1 MB/s
## Asia Speedtest.net
Location Upload Download Ping
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Nearby 471.81 Mbit/s 739.56 Mbit/s 25.143 ms
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India, New Delhi (Weebo) 115.57 Mbit/s 248.39 Mbit/s 177.261 ms
India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 112.94 Mbit/s 103.40 Mbit/s 134.501 ms
India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 72.23 Mbit/s 157.19 Mbit/s 156.652 ms
Sri Lanka, Colombo (Telecom PLC) 110.48 Mbit/s 304.05 Mbit/s 142.737 ms
Pakistan, Islamabad (Telenor) 5.08 Mbit/s 2.08 Mbit/s 149.035 ms
Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 112.03 Mbit/s 87.58 Mbit/s 112.508 ms
Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 13.26 Mbit/s 115.41 Mbit/s 177.490 ms
Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 81.69 Mbit/s 58.35 Mbit/s 171.876 ms
Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 14.14 Mbit/s 33.78 Mbit/s 351.028 ms
Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 19.84 Mbit/s 61.56 Mbit/s 298.599 ms
Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 44.67 Mbit/s 88.22 Mbit/s 222.326 ms
Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 28.25 Mbit/s 72.27 Mbit/s 216.009 ms
Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 67.83 Mbit/s 124.90 Mbit/s 202.046 ms
Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 54.56 Mbit/s 84.72 Mbit/s 188.749 ms
Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 19.96 Mbit/s 56.71 Mbit/s 253.735 ms
Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 67.08 Mbit/s 4.26 Mbit/s 200.359 ms
Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 22.84 Mbit/s 54.27 Mbit/s 252.102 ms
Hong Kong (fdcservers) 36.36 Mbit/s 61.43 Mbit/s 250.927 ms
Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 10.98 Mbit/s 6.22 Mbit/s 292.041 ms
Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 54.91 Mbit/s 53.15 Mbit/s 246.828 ms
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Finished in : 12 min 26 sec
Timestamp : 2021-10-19 01:25:24 GMT
Saved in : /root/speedtest.log
Share results:
- https://www.speedtest.net/result/12203972685.png
- https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16384775
- https://clbin.com/s0zOH
@vyas said: Many thanks- now it makes it really tempting.
Yeah it was tempting me for a day or two, so I thought I'd try it out. 500 GB NVMe is really good for the price!
I wish it had more RAM though. The 'regular' (non "Deal of the day": "KVM SSD NVMe") one is $10/month for 2 cores, 8 GB RAM and 200GB NVMe, so for an extra $2/month you get 300GB more space and 2 more cores, but no more RAM
@vyas said: Many thanks- now it makes it really tempting.
Yeah it was tempting me for a day or two, so I thought I'd try it out. 500 GB NVMe is really good for the price!
I wish it had more RAM though. The 'regular' (non "Deal of the day": "KVM SSD NVMe") one is $10/month for 2 cores, 8 GB RAM and 200GB NVMe, so for an extra $2/month you get 300GB more space and 2 more cores, but no more RAM
yeah ryzens limited to 128GB ram so .... hopefully future ones can increase ram limit for such powerful CPU
@vyas said: Many thanks- now it makes it really tempting.
Yeah it was tempting me for a day or two, so I thought I'd try it out. 500 GB NVMe is really good for the price!
I wish it had more RAM though. The 'regular' (non "Deal of the day": "KVM SSD NVMe") one is $10/month for 2 cores, 8 GB RAM and 200GB NVMe, so for an extra $2/month you get 300GB more space and 2 more cores, but no more RAM
That was my initial thought too (RAM). But then on a lighter note @cybertech paved the way. One can always add 64 MB Swap.
p.s: Speeds to Mongolia are interesting. Wonder if the routing is through Russia.
A week or so ago, Wishosting had a sale VPS with the opposite issue: 32GB RAM but only 100GB HDD (SSD-cached) storage. I nearly ordered that one since it was in Los Angeles which works really well for me (I live near San Francisco and get ~10-15ms pings and full download speeds from servers in LA) but disk only being ~3x larger than RAM is not too useful.
I suspect these sale VPSes are selling excess capacity on unbalanced nodes (if there's a lot of RAM free but not enough disk space for regular plans, or vice versa)
A week or so ago, Wishosting had a sale VPS with the opposite issue: 32GB RAM but only 100GB HDD (SSD-cached) storage. I nearly ordered that one since it was in Los Angeles which works really well for me (I live near San Francisco and get ~10-15ms pings and full download speeds from servers in LA) but disk only being ~3x larger than RAM is not too useful.
I suspect these sale VPSes are selling excess capacity on unbalanced nodes (if there's a lot of RAM free but not enough disk space for regular plans, or vice versa)
BTW, although I'd be more interested in the Ryzen deal (assuming it'd be available again soon), and this is a benchmark thread, if you don't mind me asking, any thoughts on the following two issues?
There are no company details to be found on their website - are they legit?
Wishosting can suspend any service provided with or without a refund or notification for any reason. Wishosting can change the Terms of Service at any time without client notification.
WTF...?! For realsies...? -_-' So basically, by signing up, you agree to potentially being kicked out without any kind of explanation? (or is this perhaps a standard clause regardless where you get your servers? I barely have any active services, but this made me check the ones I do and it seems that e.g. https://inceptionhosting.com/terms.html has a similar clause as well..."We reserve the right to refuse, cancel or suspend service, at our sole discretion."... [then again it's just storage in my case, but what if you run publicly available services? :<])
It is required to respond to abuse reports within 12 hours. In another case, your account will be suspended.
This is a very short deadline, also it's not just the server in question, but the whole account, isn't this too much?
⭕ A simple uptime dashboard using UptimeRobot API https://upy.duo.ovh
⭕ Currently using VPS from BuyVM, GreenCloudVPS, Gullo's, Hetzner, HostHatch, InceptionHosting, LetBox, MaxKVM, MrVM, VirMach.
Do you only rely on information posted on company website for everything?
Not trustpilot or checking twitter which shows they have been on that platform since 2016. (link mentioned in the footer for eg) and then there's google.
Unless of course you are confusing them with wishosting.net
The WHOIS says they are from the Ukraine, and on the other green forum, the owner seems to be signing off his posts as Michael (although based on the country he might be from, he's probably Mikhail?)
I don't really trust Trustpilot, even less so for Twitter, the same goes for random Google search results, but I do trust that Daniel or other users from this forum would give me an honest opinion of theirs.
And I have to say, it seems suspicious to me that a company (?) offering any kind of services does not list their company details on their website - you're free to think otherwise
EDIT: Well, as far as negative Trustpilot reviews are concerned, actually, they made me even more skeptical...^^'
Actually I read the negative reviews on Trustpilot or other sites more carefully than the positive ones. Gives a good idea about why the review was bad. TBV (Trust but verify) indeed is a good approach- prudent and recommended.
Generally speaking, if local law does not require listing company details on the website, and they are merely complying with the law of the land, does not make a company suspicious.
They do have the "normal" version (2 cores, 8GB RAM, 200GB NVMe for $10/month) if that interests you. It's in their main VPS offers: https://www.wishosting.com/order/main/packages/VPS/?group_id=2. The sale one has +2 cores and +300GB NVMe for an extra $2/month.
One of the things I really like about Wishosting is that they have an "unlimited CPU" policy on most VPSes - They don't suspend you for using a lot of CPU power. Even with this policy, their VPSes still feel pretty fast so it seems like they have 'noisy neighbours' under control.
@chimichurri said: There are no company details to be found on their website - are they legit?
That's not uncommon with LowEnd hosts. Even some of the most popular hosts have what basically amounts to generic filler text that could apply to any company on their "about us" page, like HostHatch (https://hosthatch.com/about-us). Hosthatch is registered in Florida but the guy that runs it (Abdullah Rafiq) lives in Russia and the cofounder (Emil J) lives in Sweden so I'm not even sure if the company registration makes them appear more legit or not. FlowVPS doesn't have many company details either, but they do have a registered company name in Australia.
Some companies like VirMach and RackNerd have physical offices with people working in them, but that's relatively rare. I'm not even sure how VirMach can have such good deals, build hundreds of new Ryzen servers (they own those servers rather than renting them), and still afford to have office space in Los Angeles.
I guess the different thing with Wishosting is that their site has literally zero information about anything. It's just an order form! (and a small knowledgebase). My understanding of Wishosting is that it's just @exception0x876 leasing servers from providers like OVH and Hetzner (and some other providers that are in Oregon, Virginia, and Los Angeles - not sure which ones) and dividing them up into VPSes with a little bit of profit for each. It looks like his first offer was 5.5 years ago (https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/80509/eu-kvm-vps-linux-windows-ssd-hdd-plans-20-off-let-only-let-my-h1st0ry) and I haven't read anything bad on that forum about Wishosting.
@chimichurri said: Have you run anything serious (not dev/stg but production kinda things) on their servers?
I've got a Sentry installation (the open-source version) running at https://errors.d.sb/ and it's been working fine. It's not really stressing the server that much though - at peak it reaches ~20% CPU usage and ~6MB/s disk writes. I'll probably transfer more things onto it at some point... I'm thinking of moving my Prometheus and Grafana servers onto it, but let's see what their Black Friday offers (if any) are like
Wishosting can suspend any service provided with or without a refund or notification for any reason. Wishosting can change the Terms of Service at any time without client notification.
Pretty much every host has the "we can suspend you without a refund at any time" clause, albeit some don't add the "for any reason" proviso. For example, BuyVM has this:
1,3 - Frantech may cancel or suspend your access to Frantech services at any time and for any reason without notice. Upon cancellation or suspension, your right to use the service will stop immediately.
HostHatch has this softer version:
HostHatch reserves the right to suspend, interrupt or terminate any Service(s) or this Agreement immediately without further notice in the event of a breach.
"breach" here means a breach of contract, not a security breach, that is if you host something or do something that's against the TOS. Interestingly they don't reserve the right to terminate "for any reason" though! RackNerd's terms are similar and only allow them to terminate services if you do something against the terms of service.
As for the second part ("Wishosting can change the Terms of Service at any time without client notification"), there's US caselaw against changing the terms of service without notice (eg. Douglas v. Talk America) so it wouldn't actually hold up in a US court, but of course that's not relevant if they're based in Ukraine.
I haven't read anything bad on that forum about Wishosting.
This is probably the worst I found on LET, this was clearlyh non-intentional on the provider side though, still, definitely not a good experience for the user in question. (TL;DR: misunterstood customer support question resulting in account deletion which went against the wish of the user)
Nice site! Will definitely take a look here if interested in a provider I'm not familiar with. Sadly, it seems their updates have stopped in January, and even now, HostSolutions is still being recommended ^^'
(Me asking here was also partly to check if Wishosting are not in a similar state to HostSolutions or Hotline Servers right now, regardless of their past positive reviews on LET)
"breach" here means a breach of contract, not a security breach, that is if you host something or do something that's against the TOS.
Yeah, breaching the contracts sounds fair enough, I just checked another provider I am (or soon will be, because of the HostSolutions fiasco) using i.e. Terrahost and they also have similar conditions... caveat emptor I guess?
Should one of your services violate any of these terms, they may be terminated. Terrahost may without notice choose to suspend or close the service in the event of breach of the above terms.
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continues to rock n delight with some great servers. Here is the Singapore Ryzen, 6 months later. Except for disk speed (that may need some tweaking, best left to the experts) looking good!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS : Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (64 Bit) Virt/Kernel : KVM / 5.4.0-29-generic CPU Model : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor CPU Cores : 1 @ 3792.872 MHz x86_64 512 KB Cache CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled Load Average : 0.07, 0.06, 0.06 Total Space : 30G (4.5G ~16% used) Total RAM : 1987 MB (433 MB + 745 MB Buff in use) Total SWAP : 1023 MB (40 MB in use) Uptime : 80 days 9:49 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASN & ISP : AS34081, Server24 Singapore Organization : Webhosting24 Singapore Location : Singapore, Singapore / SG Region : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark: Single Core : 4966 (EXCELLENT) Multi Core : 4911 ## IO Test CPU Speed: bzip2 : 131 MB/s sha256 : 248 MB/s md5sum : 567 MB/s RAM Speed: Avg. write : 2252.8 MB/s Avg. read : 6963.2 MB/s Disk Speed: 1st run : 404 MB/s 2nd run : 160 MB/s 3rd run : 145 MB/s ----------------------- Average : 236.3 MB/s ## Asia Speedtest.net Location Upload Download Ping --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nearby 534.81 Mbit/s 626.35 Mbit/s 2.369 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- India, New Delhi (Weebo) 210.67 Mbit/s 175.70 Mbit/s 72.534 ms India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 195.65 Mbit/s 238.12 Mbit/s 55.727 ms India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 287.50 Mbit/s 356.43 Mbit/s 43.033 ms Sri Lanka, Colombo (Telecom PLC) 360.09 Mbit/s 391.14 Mbit/s 34.499 ms Pakistan, Islamabad (Telenor) 10.43 Mbit/s 319.73 Mbit/s 108.464 ms Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 122.70 Mbit/s 85.13 Mbit/s 88.655 ms Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 153.84 Mbit/s 159.87 Mbit/s 49.884 ms Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 194.39 Mbit/s 294.48 Mbit/s 77.468 ms Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 304.28 Mbit/s 285.75 Mbit/s 45.777 ms Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 253.06 Mbit/s 175.81 Mbit/s 39.288 ms Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 258.91 Mbit/s 439.02 Mbit/s 54.687 ms Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 370.51 Mbit/s 115.79 Mbit/s 29.879 ms Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 352.33 Mbit/s 339.64 Mbit/s 35.751 ms Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 247.83 Mbit/s 517.10 Mbit/s 8.983 ms Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 698.80 Mbit/s 861.42 Mbit/s 1.232 ms Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 488.36 Mbit/s 77.11 Mbit/s 12.491 ms Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 196.72 Mbit/s 578.38 Mbit/s 28.889 ms Hong Kong (fdcservers) 327.71 Mbit/s 464.88 Mbit/s 37.596 ms Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 248.11 Mbit/s 308.23 Mbit/s 49.035 ms Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 197.47 Mbit/s 30.11 Mbit/s 70.796 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finished in : 10 min 12 sec Timestamp : 2021-09-27 16:58:32 GMT... and here is the one in Munich
OS : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (64 Bit) Virt/Kernel : KVM / 5.10.0-8-amd64 CPU Model : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz CPU Cores : 1 @ 2399.982 MHz x86_64 35840 KB Cache CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled Load Average : 0.29, 0.18, 0.07 Total Space : 40G (1.7G ~5% used) Total RAM : 1982 MB (80 MB + 679 MB Buff in use) Total SWAP : 0 MB (0 MB in use) Uptime : 0 days 0:12 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASN & ISP : AS202401, Webhosting24 GmbH Organization : Webhosting24 GmbH Location : Munich, Germany / DE Region : Bavaria --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark: Single Core : 3475 (VERY GOOD) Multi Core : 3318 ## IO Test CPU Speed: bzip2 : 104 MB/s sha256 : 163 MB/s md5sum : 449 MB/s RAM Speed: Avg. write : 2150.4 MB/s Avg. read : 4676.3 MB/s Disk Speed: 1st run : 764 MB/s 2nd run : 831 MB/s 3rd run : 872 MB/s ----------------------- Average : 822.3 MB/s ## Asia Speedtest.net Location Upload Download Ping --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nearby 876.42 Mbit/s 741.54 Mbit/s 2.708 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- India, New Delhi (Weebo) 111.04 Mbit/s 186.53 Mbit/s 169.147 ms India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 11.81 Mbit/s 47.77 Mbit/s 120.183 ms India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 94.21 Mbit/s 104.41 Mbit/s 140.385 ms Sri Lanka, Colombo (Telecom PLC) 106.32 Mbit/s 244.74 Mbit/s 170.539 ms Pakistan, Islamabad (Telenor) 13.29 Mbit/s 235.05 Mbit/s 137.796 ms Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 100.15 Mbit/s 101.43 Mbit/s 113.099 ms Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 67.68 Mbit/s 119.19 Mbit/s 199.685 ms Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 67.26 Mbit/s 102.53 Mbit/s 212.469 ms Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 67.19 Mbit/s 145.49 Mbit/s 214.158 ms Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 65.08 Mbit/s 73.48 Mbit/s 233.209 ms Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 75.72 Mbit/s 183.51 Mbit/s 195.972 ms Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 76.15 Mbit/s 122.63 Mbit/s 191.921 ms Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 30.22 Mbit/s 74.66 Mbit/s 273.081 ms Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 102.72 Mbit/s 259.46 Mbit/s 168.317 ms Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 70.20 Mbit/s 53.93 Mbit/s 160.928 ms Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 105.69 Mbit/s 156.39 Mbit/s 193.124 ms Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 21.58 Mbit/s 85.48 Mbit/s 206.355 ms Hong Kong (fdcservers) 72.42 Mbit/s 183.79 Mbit/s 194.261 ms Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 16.13 Mbit/s 20.80 Mbit/s 246.277 ms Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 55.58 Mbit/s 60.14 Mbit/s 239.945 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finished in : 12 min 26 sec———-
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Hetzner dedicated server AX41-NVME Helsinki
Upcloud Singapore
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Macbook Pro Late 2012, with 480 GB Sata NGfF. Since i had posted the YABs, I thought it was fair to post bench.monster also. Network issue not yet addressed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Virt/Kernel : Dedicated / 5.13.0-7614-generic CPU Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz CPU Cores : 4 @ 2560.957 MHz x86_64 3072 KB Cache CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled Load Average : 0.83, 0.55, 0.22 Total Space : 447G (305G ~72% used) Total RAM : 7826 MB (1382 MB + 2295 MB Buff in use) Total SWAP : 7998 MB (0 MB in use) Uptime : 0 days 0:2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASN & ISP : AS13XXXX Organization : XXXxXx Location : XXXx Region : India --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark: Single Core : 3389 (VERY GOOD) Multi Core : 6453 ## IO Test CPU Speed: bzip2 : 102 MB/s sha256 : 173 MB/s md5sum : 485 MB/s RAM Speed: Avg. write : 3447.5 MB/s Avg. read : 5734.4 MB/s Disk Speed: 1st run : 416 MB/s 2nd run : 419 MB/s 3rd run : 388 MB/s ----------------------- Average : 407.7 MB/s ## Asia Speedtest.net Location Upload Download Ping --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nearby 8.27 Mbit/s 11.42 Mbit/s 10.841 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- India, New Delhi (Weebo) 6.85 Mbit/s 9.39 Mbit/s 38.823 ms India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 6.59 Mbit/s 11.02 Mbit/s 27.584 ms India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 4.50 Mbit/s 9.88 Mbit/s 6.677 ms Sri Lanka, Colombo (Telecom PLC) 6.45 Mbit/s 8.78 Mbit/s 39.759 ms Pakistan, Islamabad (Telenor) 6.16 Mbit/s 9.21 Mbit/s 199.933 ms Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 4.38 Mbit/s 9.24 Mbit/s 201.376 ms Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 7.50 Mbit/s 7.78 Mbit/s 94.026 ms Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 6.42 Mbit/s 11.93 Mbit/s ping error! Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 5.88 Mbit/s 9.51 Mbit/s 339.947 ms Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 5.41 Mbit/s 7.23 Mbit/s 212.590 ms Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 6.25 Mbit/s 11.07 Mbit/s 69.079 ms Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 2.34 Mbit/s 6.63 Mbit/s 465.340 ms Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 5.99 Mbit/s 7.28 Mbit/s 102.878 ms Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 6.43 Mbit/s 9.11 Mbit/s 53.315 ms Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 5.76 Mbit/s 7.64 Mbit/s 208.099 ms Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 6.74 Mbit/s 11.36 Mbit/s 116.145 ms Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 6.70 Mbit/s 9.75 Mbit/s 92.763 ms Hong Kong (fdcservers) 8.10 Mbit/s 10.00 Mbit/s 78.469 ms Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 2.96 Mbit/s 9.57 Mbit/s 254.885 ms Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 7.02 Mbit/s 12.42 Mbit/s 114.814 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finished in : 20 min 40 sec Timestamp : 2021-10-06 17:40:16 GMT Saved in : /root/speedtest.log Share results: - https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16372043———-
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@vyas idling macbooks now...nice
https://webhorizon.net
Ha ha
My standby machine. Did some minor upgrades to put it to production. But toll then, yes, idling older MBPs.
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Bloom Host Performance+ 4GB
OS : AlmaLinux 8.4 (64 Bit)
Virt/Kernel : KVM / 5.14.9-2.el8.elrepo.x86_64
CPU Model : AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor
CPU Cores : 1 @ 3393.622 MHz x86_64 512 KB Cache
CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled
Load Average : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Total Space : 59G (15G ~26% used)
Total RAM : 3833 MB (357 MB + 355 MB Buff in use)
Total SWAP : 0 MB (0 MB in use)
Uptime : 0 days 0:54
ASN & ISP : AS399244, AME Hosting LLC
Organization : Gervais Web Solutions Inc.
Location : Dover, United States / US
Region : Delaware
## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark:
Single Core : 6578 (THE BEAST)
Multi Core : 6277
## IO Test
CPU Speed:
bzip2 : 189 MB/s
sha256 : 1.6 GB/s
md5sum : 784 MB/s
RAM Speed:
Avg. write : 5529.6 MB/s
Avg. read : 11537.1 MB/s
Disk Speed:
1st run : 1.0 GB/s
2nd run : 722 MB/s
3rd run : 114 MB/s
Average : 620.0 MB/s
## Global Speedtest.net
Location Upload Download Ping
Nearby 869.57 Mbit/s 873.43 Mbit/s 8.835 ms
USA, New York (Optimum) 402.58 Mbit/s 387.04 Mbit/s 45.575 ms
USA, Chicago (Windstream) 363.91 Mbit/s 457.17 Mbit/s 45.298 ms
USA, Dallas (Frontier) 859.17 Mbit/s 893.23 Mbit/s 2.409 ms
USA, Miami (Sprint) 430.72 Mbit/s 325.63 Mbit/s 37.384 ms
USA, Los Angeles (Windstream) 403.28 Mbit/s 394.96 Mbit/s 39.520 ms
UK, London (toob Ltd) 143.73 Mbit/s 233.09 Mbit/s 107.427 ms
France, Lyon (SFR) 135.80 Mbit/s 118.13 Mbit/s 117.662 ms
Germany, Berlin (DNS:NET) 149.89 Mbit/s 148.83 Mbit/s 132.108 ms
Spain, Madrid (MasMovil) 151.45 Mbit/s 114.98 Mbit/s 126.554 ms
Italy, Rome (Unidata) 140.27 Mbit/s 42.30 Mbit/s 142.132 ms
Russia, Moscow (Rostelecom) 139.65 Mbit/s 126.45 Mbit/s 140.835 ms
Israel, Haifa (013Netvision) 115.07 Mbit/s 84.44 Mbit/s 180.485 ms
India, New Delhi (Weebo) 30.69 Mbit/s 77.73 Mbit/s 261.305 ms
Singapore (FirstMedia) 26.15 Mbit/s 28.40 Mbit/s 216.984 ms
Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 121.54 Mbit/s 70.53 Mbit/s 152.214 ms
Australia, Sydney (Optus) 107.42 Mbit/s 119.35 Mbit/s 183.934 ms
RSA, Randburg (Cool Ideas) 34.02 Mbit/s 87.45 Mbit/s 262.660 ms
Brazil, Sao Paulo (Criare) 72.57 Mbit/s 156.76 Mbit/s 144.257 ms
Finished in : 17 min 20 sec
Timestamp : 2021-10-07 11:11:16 GMT
Saved in : /root/speedtest.log
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- https://www.speedtest.net/result/12149825996.png
- https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16372811
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (64 Bit) Virt/Kernel : KVM / 5.10.0-8-amd64 CPU Model : Intel Xeon E312xx (Sandy Bridge, IBRS update) CPU Cores : 1 @ 2699.998 MHz x86_64 16384 KB Cache CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Disabled Load Average : 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 Total Space : 48G (1.9G ~4% used) Total RAM : 1982 MB (55 MB + 232 MB Buff in use) Total SWAP : 2046 MB (0 MB in use) Uptime : 0 days 0:2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASN & ISP : AS133296, Web Werks India Pvt. Ltd. Organization : Hostgoi Technologies Private Limited Location : Haldibari, India / IN Region : West Bengal --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark: Single Core : 2887 (GOOD) Multi Core : 2858 ## IO Test CPU Speed: bzip2 : 101 MB/s sha256 : 144 MB/s md5sum : 442 MB/s RAM Speed: Avg. write : 1774.9 MB/s Avg. read : 4676.3 MB/s Disk Speed: 1st run : 354 MB/s 2nd run : 348 MB/s 3rd run : 348 MB/s ----------------------- Average : 350.0 MB/s ## Asia Speedtest.net Location Upload Download Ping --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nearby 34.20 Mbit/s 300.28 Mbit/s * 288.816 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- India, New Delhi (Weebo) 229.53 Mbit/s 1.24 Mbit/s 40.079 ms India, Mumbai (SevenStar) 280.90 Mbit/s 249.29 Mbit/s 1.197 ms India, Bengaluru (I-ON) 241.63 Mbit/s 454.71 Mbit/s 18.641 ms Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar (Mobicom) 19.52 Mbit/s 16.93 Mbit/s 235.924 ms Bangladesh, Dhaka (Skytel) 51.45 Mbit/s 110.82 Mbit/s 76.766 ms Bhutan, Thimphu (Bhutan Telecom) 146.69 Mbit/s 41.63 Mbit/s 88.698 ms Myanmar, Mandalay (Ooredoo) 151.24 Mbit/s 254.80 Mbit/s 102.583 ms Laos, Vientaine (Mangkone) 12.57 Mbit/s 100.56 Mbit/s 204.067 ms Thailand, Bangkok (CAT Telecom) 7.88 Mbit/s 95.65 Mbit/s 83.642 ms Cambodia, Phnom Penh (Smart) 145.46 Mbit/s 20.88 Mbit/s 83.110 ms Vietnam, Hanoi (Viettel) 63.07 Mbit/s 4.60 Mbit/s 107.500 ms Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur (Extreme) 155.38 Mbit/s 13.61 Mbit/s 93.548 ms Singapore (PT FirstMedia) 193.10 Mbit/s 141.16 Mbit/s 53.564 ms ping: speedtest.desnet.id: Temporary failure in name resolution Indonesia, Jakarta (Desnet) 48.18 Mbit/s 75.18 Mbit/s ping error! Philippines, Manila (Globe Tel) 73.66 Mbit/s 85.12 Mbit/s 110.637 ms Hong Kong (fdcservers) 19.99 Mbit/s 61.98 Mbit/s 241.143 ms Taiwan, Taipei (TAIFO) 10.51 Mbit/s 17.19 Mbit/s 216.055 ms Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 101.80 Mbit/s 61.49 Mbit/s 141.998 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finished in : 25 min 55 sec Timestamp : 2021-10-07 12:19:31 GMT Saved in : /root/speedtest.log Share results: - https://www.speedtest.net/result/12150072690.png - https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16372858———-
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Oracle Free VPS
@Daniel thanks for the Wishosting Ryzen 5900 YABS. I was considering to get this one - except for network speeds- overall looks good. May I request you to run a bench.monster with -in option (or -asia for wider audience)? Would be keen to see what speeds I get. Thanks
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Sure. Here's the specs again for reference (from the YABS thread):
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Many thanks- now it makes it really tempting.
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Yeah it was tempting me for a day or two, so I thought I'd try it out. 500 GB NVMe is really good for the price!
I wish it had more RAM though. The 'regular' (non "Deal of the day": "KVM SSD NVMe") one is $10/month for 2 cores, 8 GB RAM and 200GB NVMe, so for an extra $2/month you get 300GB more space and 2 more cores, but no more RAM
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yeah ryzens limited to 128GB ram so .... hopefully future ones can increase ram limit for such powerful CPU
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
That was my initial thought too (RAM). But then on a lighter note @cybertech paved the way. One can always add 64 MB Swap.
p.s: Speeds to Mongolia are interesting. Wonder if the routing is through Russia.
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and swap shouldn't actually be that slow on NVMe drives.
A week or so ago, Wishosting had a sale VPS with the opposite issue: 32GB RAM but only 100GB HDD (SSD-cached) storage. I nearly ordered that one since it was in Los Angeles which works really well for me (I live near San Francisco and get ~10-15ms pings and full download speeds from servers in LA) but disk only being ~3x larger than RAM is not too useful.
I suspect these sale VPSes are selling excess capacity on unbalanced nodes (if there's a lot of RAM free but not enough disk space for regular plans, or vice versa)
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HostCram KVM-2G (2 cores / 2GB RAM / 40GB NVMe)
https://www.wishosting.com/order/main/packages/VPS/?group_id=7
FYI, this deal is back!
BTW, although I'd be more interested in the Ryzen deal (assuming it'd be available again soon), and this is a benchmark thread, if you don't mind me asking, any thoughts on the following two issues?
There are no company details to be found on their website - are they legit?
Have you run anything serious (not dev/stg but production kinda things) on their servers? I have to say, these two clauses from their ToS ( https://www.wishosting.com/plugin/support_manager/knowledgebase/view/11/terms-of-service/1/ ) seem like a major turn off for me as a prospective customer of theirs..
WTF...?! For realsies...? -_-' So basically, by signing up, you agree to potentially being kicked out without any kind of explanation? (or is this perhaps a standard clause regardless where you get your servers? I barely have any active services, but this made me check the ones I do and it seems that e.g. https://inceptionhosting.com/terms.html has a similar clause as well..."We reserve the right to refuse, cancel or suspend service, at our sole discretion."... [then again it's just storage in my case, but what if you run publicly available services? :<])
This is a very short deadline, also it's not just the server in question, but the whole account, isn't this too much?
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Nah, @exception0x876 is pretty good guy.. and wishosting also pretty reputable. As long as your usage is not something shady I believe it is okay.
⭕ A simple uptime dashboard using UptimeRobot API https://upy.duo.ovh
⭕ Currently using VPS from BuyVM, GreenCloudVPS, Gullo's, Hetzner, HostHatch, InceptionHosting, LetBox, MaxKVM, MrVM, VirMach.
Do you only rely on information posted on company website for everything?
Not trustpilot or checking twitter which shows they have been on that platform since 2016. (link mentioned in the footer for eg) and then there's google.
Unless of course you are confusing them with wishosting.net
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The WHOIS says they are from the Ukraine, and on the other green forum, the owner seems to be signing off his posts as Michael (although based on the country he might be from, he's probably Mikhail?)
I don't really trust Trustpilot, even less so for Twitter, the same goes for random Google search results, but I do trust that Daniel or other users from this forum would give me an honest opinion of theirs.
And I have to say, it seems suspicious to me that a company (?) offering any kind of services does not list their company details on their website - you're free to think otherwise
EDIT: Well, as far as negative Trustpilot reviews are concerned, actually, they made me even more skeptical...^^'
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Actually I read the negative reviews on Trustpilot or other sites more carefully than the positive ones. Gives a good idea about why the review was bad. TBV (Trust but verify) indeed is a good approach- prudent and recommended.
Generally speaking, if local law does not require listing company details on the website, and they are merely complying with the law of the land, does not make a company suspicious.
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They do have the "normal" version (2 cores, 8GB RAM, 200GB NVMe for $10/month) if that interests you. It's in their main VPS offers: https://www.wishosting.com/order/main/packages/VPS/?group_id=2. The sale one has +2 cores and +300GB NVMe for an extra $2/month.
One of the things I really like about Wishosting is that they have an "unlimited CPU" policy on most VPSes - They don't suspend you for using a lot of CPU power. Even with this policy, their VPSes still feel pretty fast so it seems like they have 'noisy neighbours' under control.
That's not uncommon with LowEnd hosts. Even some of the most popular hosts have what basically amounts to generic filler text that could apply to any company on their "about us" page, like HostHatch (https://hosthatch.com/about-us). Hosthatch is registered in Florida but the guy that runs it (Abdullah Rafiq) lives in Russia and the cofounder (Emil J) lives in Sweden so I'm not even sure if the company registration makes them appear more legit or not. FlowVPS doesn't have many company details either, but they do have a registered company name in Australia.
Some companies like VirMach and RackNerd have physical offices with people working in them, but that's relatively rare. I'm not even sure how VirMach can have such good deals, build hundreds of new Ryzen servers (they own those servers rather than renting them), and still afford to have office space in Los Angeles.
I guess the different thing with Wishosting is that their site has literally zero information about anything. It's just an order form! (and a small knowledgebase). My understanding of Wishosting is that it's just @exception0x876 leasing servers from providers like OVH and Hetzner (and some other providers that are in Oregon, Virginia, and Los Angeles - not sure which ones) and dividing them up into VPSes with a little bit of profit for each. It looks like his first offer was 5.5 years ago (https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/80509/eu-kvm-vps-linux-windows-ssd-hdd-plans-20-off-let-only-let-my-h1st0ry) and I haven't read anything bad on that forum about Wishosting.
Wishosting is also in The Whitelist on LowEndBoxes.review.
I've got a Sentry installation (the open-source version) running at https://errors.d.sb/ and it's been working fine. It's not really stressing the server that much though - at peak it reaches ~20% CPU usage and ~6MB/s disk writes. I'll probably transfer more things onto it at some point... I'm thinking of moving my Prometheus and Grafana servers onto it, but let's see what their Black Friday offers (if any) are like
Pretty much every host has the "we can suspend you without a refund at any time" clause, albeit some don't add the "for any reason" proviso. For example, BuyVM has this:
HostHatch has this softer version:
"breach" here means a breach of contract, not a security breach, that is if you host something or do something that's against the TOS. Interestingly they don't reserve the right to terminate "for any reason" though! RackNerd's terms are similar and only allow them to terminate services if you do something against the terms of service.
As for the second part ("Wishosting can change the Terms of Service at any time without client notification"), there's US caselaw against changing the terms of service without notice (eg. Douglas v. Talk America) so it wouldn't actually hold up in a US court, but of course that's not relevant if they're based in Ukraine.
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@Daniel
OVH has locations in Virgina and Oregon, available only on their US website
Wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for the info.
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Thank you for your detailed answer!
This is probably the worst I found on LET, this was clearlyh non-intentional on the provider side though, still, definitely not a good experience for the user in question. (TL;DR: misunterstood customer support question resulting in account deletion which went against the wish of the user)
Nice site! Will definitely take a look here if interested in a provider I'm not familiar with. Sadly, it seems their updates have stopped in January, and even now, HostSolutions is still being recommended ^^'
(Me asking here was also partly to check if Wishosting are not in a similar state to HostSolutions or Hotline Servers right now, regardless of their past positive reviews on LET)
Yeah, breaching the contracts sounds fair enough, I just checked another provider I am (or soon will be, because of the HostSolutions fiasco) using i.e. Terrahost and they also have similar conditions... caveat emptor I guess?
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