@Advin said:
I'm pretty sure most of our LES exclusive promotions just get reposted on other forums anyway.
No, they usually change the promo code with a different code. Some go as far as changing one digit in bandwidth or disk space to make it "seem" different. But in essence, yes, that is what some do.
He's saying customers repost them.
Well, it isn't against the rules for customers to repost LES exclusive offers... I mean you can easily setup a bot to monitor LES exclusive offers category and auto post it to a forum of your choice
Kind of is it did I not understand your point?
MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning.
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@somik said:
Well, it isn't against the rules for customers to repost LES exclusive offers... I mean you can easily setup a bot to monitor LES exclusive offers category and auto post it to a forum of your choice
Kind of is it did I not understand your point?
MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning.
I did miss out on that rule. I thought it was only for providers. Still, I do not see how LES would track members across forums specially if they signed up with different usernames...
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@somik said:
Well, it isn't against the rules for customers to repost LES exclusive offers... I mean you can easily setup a bot to monitor LES exclusive offers category and auto post it to a forum of your choice
Kind of is it did I not understand your point?
MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning.
I did miss out on that rule. I thought it was only for providers. Still, I do not see how LES would track members across forums specially if they signed up with different usernames...
Against my recommendations, for now it is still limited to members knowing they're breaking the social contract and being banned.
"MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning."
I am sure that exemplary knock on the door and execution would have sent a clearer message, but admins cited some international laws and similar nonsense... so it is how it is - it's their call.
$7 limit was set 15 years ago, nothing costs what it did 15 years ago
As a general remark, communities can be very resistant to change: long-standing traditions that have played an essential role in defining the identity of a community are difficult to overturn
If we take the example of OGF, where the price limit was raised from $7 to $10 around five years ago, the $7 mindset/meme is still going strong, so much so that many users now call/long for $7/year offers (!), whereas the original conception was $7/month
None of us owns the $7 idea, the guy who did, picked a random number that sounded ok at the time.
We could say that the low-end community now owns the $7 idea, for better or for worse
Perhaps there is also a consideration of the following kind: if LES keeps to $7, then this is a further characteristic -- not the only one, of course -- that distinguishes LES from OGF, which perhaps is a good thing
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
$7 limit was set 15 years ago, nothing costs what it did 15 years ago
As a general remark, communities can be very resistant to change: long-standing traditions that have played an essential role in defining the identity of a community are difficult to overturn
If we take the example of OGF, where the price limit was raised from $7 to $10 around five years ago, the $7 mindset/meme is still going strong, so much so that many users now call/long for $7/year offers (!), whereas the original conception was $7/month
None of us owns the $7 idea, the guy who did, picked a random number that sounded ok at the time.
We could say that the low-end community now owns the $7 idea, for better or for worse
Perhaps there is also a consideration of the following kind: if LES keeps to $7, then this is a further characteristic -- not the only one, of course -- that distinguishes LES from OGF, which perhaps is a good thing
This hit me in the feelings.
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@somik said:
Well, it isn't against the rules for customers to repost LES exclusive offers... I mean you can easily setup a bot to monitor LES exclusive offers category and auto post it to a forum of your choice
Kind of is it did I not understand your point?
MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning.
I did miss out on that rule. I thought it was only for providers. Still, I do not see how LES would track members across forums specially if they signed up with different usernames...
Against my recommendations, for now it is still limited to members knowing they're breaking the social contract and being banned.
"MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning."
I am sure that exemplary knock on the door and execution would have sent a clearer message, but admins cited some international laws and similar nonsense... so it is how it is - it's their call.
I think that I wrote that rule, I only partially remember, I think it was always just a strongly worded "please don't"
When I posted TierHive here exclusively on launch, it was on nodeseek within hours if not minutes, with all of the context stripped out, I know who did it, but really it's a near impossible one to enforce and probably a bit outdated.
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@somik said:
Well, it isn't against the rules for customers to repost LES exclusive offers... I mean you can easily setup a bot to monitor LES exclusive offers category and auto post it to a forum of your choice
Kind of is it did I not understand your point?
MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning.
I did miss out on that rule. I thought it was only for providers. Still, I do not see how LES would track members across forums specially if they signed up with different usernames...
Against my recommendations, for now it is still limited to members knowing they're breaking the social contract and being banned.
"MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning."
I am sure that exemplary knock on the door and execution would have sent a clearer message, but admins cited some international laws and similar nonsense... so it is how it is - it's their call.
I think it was always just a strongly worded "please don't"
Yes. About time we put Rocky and Knuckles on the job...
@AnthonySmith said:
I think that I wrote that rule, I only partially remember, I think it was always just a strongly worded "please don't"
When I posted TierHive here exclusively on launch, it was on nodeseek within hours if not minutes, with all of the context stripped out, I know who did it, but really it's a near impossible one to enforce and probably a bit outdated.
So maybe it's time to remove the LES exclusive offer and make the upper limit higher?
Again, just a recommendation. Actual decision is left up to LES management team
@bikegremlin said:
Yes. About time we put Rocky and Knuckles on the job...
Why not just remove rules that cannot be enforced?
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@AnthonySmith said:
I think that I wrote that rule, I only partially remember, I think it was always just a strongly worded "please don't"
When I posted TierHive here exclusively on launch, it was on nodeseek within hours if not minutes, with all of the context stripped out, I know who did it, but really it's a near impossible one to enforce and probably a bit outdated.
So maybe it's time to remove the LES exclusive offer and make the upper limit higher?
Again, just a recommendation. Actual decision is left up to LES management team
@bikegremlin said:
Yes. About time we put Rocky and Knuckles on the job...
Why not just remove rules that cannot be enforced?
That is an ethical and philosophical question that can be discussed at length, despite having been posted as a rhetorical one.
@Advin said:
I'm pretty sure most of our LES exclusive promotions just get reposted on other forums anyway.
No, they usually change the promo code with a different code. Some go as far as changing one digit in bandwidth or disk space to make it "seem" different. But in essence, yes, that is what some do.
He's saying customers repost them.
Well, it isn't against the rules for customers to repost LES exclusive offers... I mean you can easily setup a bot to monitor LES exclusive offers category and auto post it to a forum of your choice
Kind of is it did I not understand your point?
MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning.
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I did miss out on that rule. I thought it was only for providers. Still, I do not see how LES would track members across forums specially if they signed up with different usernames...
Against my recommendations, for now it is still limited to members knowing they're breaking the social contract and being banned.
"MEMBERS DO NOT share LES Exclusive offers on other sites under any circumstances unless the offer is at least 7 days old, this will result in a ban without any warning."
I am sure that exemplary knock on the door and execution would have sent a clearer message, but admins cited some international laws and similar nonsense... so it is how it is - it's their call.
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As a general remark, communities can be very resistant to change: long-standing traditions that have played an essential role in defining the identity of a community are difficult to overturn
If we take the example of OGF, where the price limit was raised from $7 to $10 around five years ago, the $7 mindset/meme is still going strong, so much so that many users now call/long for $7/year offers (!), whereas the original conception was $7/month
We could say that the low-end community now owns the $7 idea, for better or for worse
Perhaps there is also a consideration of the following kind: if LES keeps to $7, then this is a further characteristic -- not the only one, of course -- that distinguishes LES from OGF, which perhaps is a good thing
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
This hit me in the feelings.
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I think that I wrote that rule, I only partially remember, I think it was always just a strongly worded "please don't"
When I posted TierHive here exclusively on launch, it was on nodeseek within hours if not minutes, with all of the context stripped out, I know who did it, but really it's a near impossible one to enforce and probably a bit outdated.
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Yes. About time we put Rocky and Knuckles on the job...
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So maybe it's time to remove the LES exclusive offer and make the upper limit higher?
Again, just a recommendation. Actual decision is left up to LES management team
Why not just remove rules that cannot be enforced?
That is an ethical and philosophical question that can be discussed at length, despite having been posted as a rhetorical one.
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LOL sorry couldn't resist...