I banned 5000+ accounts, more to follow - WHY and LES improvements.

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  • edited 8:15AM

    New member signups have slowed a bit. Seems like word of the purge and ban has gotten around and automation tools are being somewhat blocked.

  • @rockinmusicgv said:

    @AnthonySmith said: NodeSeek people are actually selling LES accounts or access to LES accounts

    okay, but why? If it's a free sign up, why do you sell an account? Freakin weird.

    All robbers are opportunists.

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  • I totally agree with you

  • Thanks for all the time and effort with this cleanup. Appreciated.

  • @AnthonySmith maybe use those authenticators like github/facebook/google ..etc they have already some protection against multiple signups. So you dont have to reinvent the wheel.

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    @AnthonySmith CGNAT is potentially a real problem (I know you are aware).
    Many of the fiber to home suppliers in the UK use it, so I for example could have easily been banned. Ok some have working v6 but blocking a CGNAT for 30 days (I feel) is too strong.
    BTW totally agree with a clearout - you did not have to copy me :p
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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith AdministratorProviderOG
    edited 10:51AM

    @bikegremlin said:
    Plus addressing can make it more difficult to keep a track of duplicate emails automatically. A filter like "+" for disallowed email addresses may prevent plus addressing (with all the pros and cons of that choice). An even better option would be email address normalization when checking for blocked emails.

    Sorry, that is what it does, they are not banned, vanilla just normalises them now, [email protected] becomes [email protected]

    Same with the +

    I got a LOT of PMs yesterday asking not to be banned because of having a . In the address :(

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith AdministratorProviderOG

    @msatt said:
    @AnthonySmith CGNAT is potentially a real problem (I know you are aware).
    Many of the fiber to home suppliers in the UK use it, so I for example could have easily been banned. Ok some have working v6 but blocking a CGNAT for 30 days (I feel) is too strong.
    BTW totally agree with a clearout - you did not have to copy me :p
    Mike

    It's not a ban just for the record it's a login soft block, maybe I should make it 24 hours instead.

    I did check it in advance, but past login performance is not an indicator of present I suppose.

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith AdministratorProviderOG

    @sumo said:
    New member signups have slowed a bit. Seems like word of the purge and ban has gotten around and automation tools are being somewhat blocked.

    Indeed, from what I was told, people started farming accounts to be able to sell in the future, the effort for that just got way higher.

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  • @dbadude said:
    @AnthonySmith maybe use those authenticators like github/facebook/google ..etc they have already some protection against multiple signups. So you dont have to reinvent the wheel.

    Thats no protection, you can use the code from a victims installed app. You can use every app for authentication.

  • @ascicode said:

    @dbadude said:
    @AnthonySmith maybe use those authenticators like github/facebook/google ..etc they have already some protection against multiple signups. So you dont have to reinvent the wheel.

    Thats no protection, you can use the code from a victims installed app. You can use every app for authentication.

    its protection for too many signups. It is no protection for what that signed up user will do.

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith AdministratorProviderOG

    Right, the 30 day duplicate IP soft block has been moved to 1 day, and duplicates used within 30 days are logged on the admin dashboard instead for hooman decisions.

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  • @AnthonySmith said:
    Right, the 30 day duplicate IP soft block has been moved to 1 day, and duplicates used within 30 days are logged on the admin dashboard instead for hooman decisions.

    i hope you don't end up locking yourself out! ;)

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith AdministratorProviderOG

    @lapua said:

    @AnthonySmith said:
    Right, the 30 day duplicate IP soft block has been moved to 1 day, and duplicates used within 30 days are logged on the admin dashboard instead for hooman decisions.

    i hope you don't end up locking yourself out! ;)

    There is a white list :)

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  • @AnthonySmith said: Well as it turned out dangling free money at nodeseek users got me an explanation and a few double agents for hire on side, pretty cheap too, amazing how quick they even sell each other out.

    They'd fight each other over a single dollar

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  • edited 1:53PM

    @AnthonySmith said:

    @sumo said:
    New member signups have slowed a bit. Seems like word of the purge and ban has gotten around and automation tools are being somewhat blocked.

    Indeed, from what I was told, people started farming accounts to be able to sell in the future, the effort for that just got way higher.

    This hints at the growing value of LES Exclusive Offers

  • @pvum said:

    @AnthonySmith said: Well as it turned out dangling free money at nodeseek users got me an explanation and a few double agents for hire on side, pretty cheap too, amazing how quick they even sell each other out.

    They'd fight each other over a single dollar

    Based on how people here, the OGF, and online searches described the site, I feel it can become a group mentality of hyper focusing on deals and maximizing tech, server in particular, resources. From there, the usual personalities who can become obsessive emerge along with the toxicity. I’m sure it’s not everyone, but the environment could encourage that behavior type. I guess it’s fine for there, but not every site wants that type of member. It probably encourages traffic at great human expense

  • @ascicode said:

    @hiasakireina said:
    I've only been on LES for about three days, haha. I was probably a bit too active on my first day since I'm totally new to hosting communities.

    I actually found NodeSeek first while looking for a cheap VPS to run my QQ bot, but the invitation requirement put me off, so I ended up here.

    I think the cleanup makes sense, especially with accounts being sold and bots hanging around. Thanks for putting in the effort to keep LES a nice place!

    I probably won't be around every day, but I'll try to drop by every week to chat and learn a bit. Hopefully I can stick around! :)

    If you're interested, you login at least once week. All other have no reason be here.

    Got it, thanks!

  • edited 3:20PM

    @AnthonySmith said:

    @lapua said:

    @AnthonySmith said:
    Right, the 30 day duplicate IP soft block has been moved to 1 day, and duplicates used within 30 days are logged on the admin dashboard instead for hooman decisions.

    i hope you don't end up locking yourself out! ;)

    There is a white list :)

    please add 193.24. *. * ;)

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