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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer

    Which one do you guys prefer?

    Design A, or design B?

    Any suggestions/improvements to either?

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited August 2021

    Anyone else has noticed/run into the issue described in this Post in a Divi FB group? I have used LSCache so far, but without (noticeable) issues.

    The very same guy tested some Caching Plugins with Divi upon their behaviour on first page load. This was the result:

  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited August 2021

    @bikegremlin said:
    Which one do you guys prefer?

    Design A, or design B?

    Any suggestions/improvements to either?

    I kind of like Design A more. Looks a bit cleaner/catching imho. In Design B, the search bar and other elements kinda block the view to the picture.

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  • @Ympker said:
    Anyone else has noticed/run into the issue described in this Post in a Divi FB group? I have used LSCache so far, but without (noticeable) issues.

    Currently I enable Quic DNS, so on my header x-litespeed-cache always miss while x-qc-cache always hit

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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer
    edited August 2021

    @Ympker said:

    @bikegremlin said:
    Which one do you guys prefer?

    Design A, or design B?

    Any suggestions/improvements to either?

    I kind of like Design A more. Looks a bit cleaner/catching imho. In Design B, the search bar and other elements kinda block the view to the picture.

    That was deliberate (and took some work to get it working). :)
    The search is basically my main "call to action" as the marketing folks say.

    I prefer the cleaner look of A. But I don't take my opinion seriously when it comes to visual design. :)

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer

    @bikegremlin said:

    @Ympker said:

    @bikegremlin said:
    Which one do you guys prefer?

    Design A, or design B?

    Any suggestions/improvements to either?

    I kind of like Design A more. Looks a bit cleaner/catching imho. In Design B, the search bar and other elements kinda block the view to the picture.

    That was deliberate (and took some work to get it working). :)
    The search is basically my main "call to action" as the marketing folks say.

    I prefer the cleaner look of A. But I don't take my opinion seriously when it comes to visual design. :)

    Maybe I have just seen too many cookie-banners, but I can't have it anymore, these days, when my first view of a page (after optionally having clicked a cookie banned) is blocked/limited due to some overlaying content (as here is the searchbar). I get the idea behind it, and if your visitors prefer that, tha's great, but I really dig Design A at this point.

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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer
    edited August 2021

    @Ympker said:

    @bikegremlin said:

    @Ympker said:

    @bikegremlin said:
    Which one do you guys prefer?

    Design A, or design B?

    Any suggestions/improvements to either?

    I kind of like Design A more. Looks a bit cleaner/catching imho. In Design B, the search bar and other elements kinda block the view to the picture.

    That was deliberate (and took some work to get it working). :)
    The search is basically my main "call to action" as the marketing folks say.

    I prefer the cleaner look of A. But I don't take my opinion seriously when it comes to visual design. :)

    Maybe I have just seen too many cookie-banners, but I can't have it anymore, these days, when my first view of a page (after optionally having clicked a cookie banned) is blocked/limited due to some overlaying content (as here is the searchbar). I get the idea behind it, and if your visitors prefer that, tha's great, but I really dig Design A at this point.

    Cookie banners are becoming obligatory. I hate them, but it's practically become a must.

    I don't understand the search bar feedback. The cookie banner is present currently on both website versions and is not related to the search banner, it's related to the website ads.

    I'll try disabling any personalized ads and get rid of the cookie annoyance. :)

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited August 2021

    @bikegremlin said:

    @Ympker said:

    @bikegremlin said:

    @Ympker said:

    @bikegremlin said:
    Which one do you guys prefer?

    Design A, or design B?

    Any suggestions/improvements to either?

    I kind of like Design A more. Looks a bit cleaner/catching imho. In Design B, the search bar and other elements kinda block the view to the picture.

    That was deliberate (and took some work to get it working). :)
    The search is basically my main "call to action" as the marketing folks say.

    I prefer the cleaner look of A. But I don't take my opinion seriously when it comes to visual design. :)

    Maybe I have just seen too many cookie-banners, but I can't have it anymore, these days, when my first view of a page (after optionally having clicked a cookie banned) is blocked/limited due to some overlaying content (as here is the searchbar). I get the idea behind it, and if your visitors prefer that, tha's great, but I really dig Design A at this point.

    Cookie banners are becoming obligatory. I hate them, but it's practically become a must.

    I don't understand the search bar feedback. The cookie banner is present currently on both website versions and is not related to the search banner, it's related to the website ads.

    I'll try disabling any personalized ads and get rid of the cookie annoyance. :)

    Yeah, cookie banners are basically a must, these days :/

    Ah, my bad. Of course, the search bar thing is not the same as a cookie-consent thingy popping up. What I was trying to say is that, because of all the cookie banners that exist nowadays, I am kinda allergic to anything that blocks my first view on a page. Since I opened your Design B on my phone and the first thing I (want to) see is the Image with the bike my view is kinda limited by the overlayed text and search bar. So, what I am saying is I would prefer a more "clean" first image. Like, only search bar, or only one line of text. This way it seems a bit crowded and makes my eyes kinda conotate it with the feeling I get when seeing cookie banners. I hope that makes more sense, now?


    Also, getting rid of the ads you mentioned would also help ofc ;)

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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer

    Thanks for taking the time. I greatly appreciate your feedback. :)

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  • I am not sure the exact cause, but some of my blog page did not have padding/margin, so the layout is broken.

    Two cause that come into mind during obrservation either quic DNS or divi CSS optimization.

    https://baubus.uk/proxmox-ve-1-virtualisasi/

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited September 2021

    @chocolateshirt said:
    I am not sure the exact cause, but some of my blog page did not have padding/margin, so the layout is broken.

    Two cause that come into mind during obrservation either quic DNS or divi CSS optimization.

    https://baubus.uk/proxmox-ve-1-virtualisasi/

    I had a similar problem (layout with little to no distance to blog posts) with my starting page which displayed blog posts using the blog module. I contacted support and they fixed it via remote access and sent me even a Loom video how they did it. Was a case of some margins I forgot I had in place and also one of the CSS options from Divi.. Was sorted within a couple hours though. Divi support has stepped up their game.

    On another note (WP parent company aquired headless cms Frontity):
    https://www.searchenginejournal.com/wordpress-frontity/418245/

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  • In my case, only one or two random blog that have this issue. Other blog post are normal.

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  • vyasvyas OG
    edited September 2021

    I've been thinking of moving away from Wp and enter the CP world.

    Set up a test site (clone of my blog, noindex ON)

    https://d.amar.link

    So far, love the speed, less bloat ant the theme by alx.media !

    Might move over my main blog to this one once the plugins, images, links, etc. are working.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited September 2021

    @vyas said:
    I've been thinking of moving away from Wp and enter the CP world.

    Set up a test site (clone of my blog, noindex ON)

    https://d.amar.link

    So far, love the speed, less bloat ant the theme by alx.media !

    Might move over my main blog to this one once the plugins, images, links, etc. are working.

    Looking good. I guess I won't be dropping WP any time soon (also business related), however I can definitely see the appeal :)

    I will have to check out Frontity (headless WP) soon. Sounds dope!
    https://frontity.org/

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  • Now the CSS issue on link that I provided above has been gone. I did not have a chance to check where the issue is.. ☹️

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  • @vyas said:
    I've been thinking of moving away from Wp and enter the CP world.
    Set up a test site (clone of my blog, noindex ON)
    https://d.amar.link
    So far, love the speed, less bloat ant the theme by alx.media !
    Might move over my main blog to this one once the plugins, images, links, etc. are working.

    I just installed ClassicPress (using Softaculous on MyW.pt DA), and then Divi theme.
    Seems to work fine. (Except PHP 8 made it go blank. PHP 7.4 works fine.)

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  • @flips said:

    @vyas said:
    I've been thinking of moving away from Wp and enter the CP world.
    Set up a test site (clone of my blog, noindex ON)
    https://d.amar.link
    So far, love the speed, less bloat ant the theme by alx.media !
    Might move over my main blog to this one once the plugins, images, links, etc. are working.

    I just installed ClassicPress (using Softaculous on MyW.pt DA), and then Divi theme.
    Seems to work fine. (Except PHP 8 made it go blank. PHP 7.4 works fine.)

    Yeah I have been having issues with php8 and CP well.

  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited September 2021

    Just moved another Blog to Blocksy Theme + Classic Editor + Divi Builder (to keep old posts that were made with Divi). Snappy performance and looks nice :) Perhaps, later I will do some optimizing, but out of the box it comes to 97 Desktop and 91 Mobile pagespeed.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer

    On another note: @vyas the other day, I was googling for some tech-topic (forgot what it was exactly) and on third spot on Google results, your blog popped up. Needlessly to say, I choose to read your article over the others available :)

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited September 2021

    Pretty cool find today: Websites using Divi world-wide :)

    https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Divi

    Websites built with Divi that have been added recently:

    https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Divi/Added-Recently

    In Germany ( https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Divi/Germany ) , G2 Esports uses Divi, apparently:

  • flipsflips OG
    edited September 2021

    @Ympker said:
    Pretty cool find today: Websites using Divi world-wide

    Wonder how they harvest/discover sites ...

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  • edited September 2021

    @flips said:

    @Ympker said:
    Pretty cool find today: Websites using Divi world-wide

    Wonder how they harvest/discover sites ...

    Maybe using bot to crawl a lot of web or using certain syntax in google.

    Edit:
    The issue of missing margin/padding on my web solved. The cause are divi Dynamic CSS settings. I turned off that feature and the site working properly.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @flips said:

    @Ympker said:
    Pretty cool find today: Websites using Divi world-wide

    Wonder how they harvest/discover sites ...

    Maybe using bot to crawl a lot of web or using certain syntax in google.

    Edit:
    The issue of missing margin/padding on my web solved. The cause are divi Dynamic CSS settings. I turned off that feature and the site working properly.

    Yeah, many people in Divi FB groups said that fixed it for them.

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  • vyasvyas OG
    edited September 2021

    shh... don't tell @ympker...

    Results from google's web.dev testing tool for
    ClassicPress v 1.3 on VPS (ReadyDedis, Mumbai 4 GB BF 2020 plan) + CF + caching, etc...theme is Generatepress or Hestia (testing both)
    Existing site (my blog) with over 150 posts, 18 plugins.

    I have almost* migrated my blog site from WP to CP. And quite happy with results.

    image

    Update:
    I broke the site (intentionally) - PHP 8 instead of 7.4 and now we have bliss! Restore from backup in action fixed

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  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOGContent Writer

    My GT-metrix and Lighthouse scores were very good with GeneratePress using a basic design. With 200+ posts and thousands of comments and replies.

    After having redesigned the website, to get a nicer look easier to navigate, GT-metrix is still OK, but Lighthouse for mobile is crap. Below 20%. However, real-life experience, using a "fresh" mobile phone with an imperfect connection speed, is good - everything loads and shows in a second - text, images, all the layout is right.

    The funny thing is that Google ads are the ones attributing to the poor Google Lighthouse scores. :)
    They are set to load after all the other content, so don't impede user experience. But take seconds (sometimes 10) to load on a slower mobile-net speed.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited September 2021

    @vyas said:
    shh... don't tell @ympker...

    Results from google's web.dev testing tool for
    ClassicPress v 1.3 on VPS (ReadyDedis, Mumbai 4 GB BF 2020 plan) + CF + caching, etc...theme is Generatepress or Hestia (testing both)
    Existing site (my blog) with over 150 posts, 18 plugins.

    I have almost* migrated my blog site from WP to CP. And quite happy with results.

    image

    Update:
    I broke the site (intentionally) - PHP 8 instead of 7.4 and now we have bliss! Restore from backup in action fixed

    That definitely looks good. More than happy with a 9x score, anyway :P
    The other day I also tested with Web.dev. It seems very similar to Google Pagespeed (or is even the same) with a little extra(?) info.

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  • @Ympker said:

    That definitely looks good. More than happy with a 9x score, anyway :P
    The other day I also tested with Web.dev. It seems very similar to Google Pagespeed (or is even the same) with a little extra(?) info.

    I would take 9x over anything else!
    https://web.dev/about/ web.dev is google project.

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited September 2021

    @vyas said:

    @Ympker said:

    That definitely looks good. More than happy with a 9x score, anyway :P
    The other day I also tested with Web.dev. It seems very similar to Google Pagespeed (or is even the same) with a little extra(?) info.

    I would take 9x over anything else!
    https://web.dev/about/ web.dev is google project.

    Haha yeah. I knew it was a Google project, just wasn't sure what the main difference to Pagespeed was.

  • Any recommendations for image optimization plugins/services (that are cheap)? I know this was discussed before but can't quite find where it was...

  • @Unixfy said:
    Any recommendations for image optimization plugins/services (that are cheap)? I know this was discussed before but can't quite find where it was...

    There are two ways you can tackle this:
    1. DIY:

    On debian look up
    jpegoptim
    Optipng

    For webp this is a useful link

    https://www.tecmint.com/convert-images-to-webp-format-in-linux/

    1. Shortpixel has reasonable pricing plans and a good cli utility. Or Eww on Appsumo

    Avif has limited support

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