Windows 365 discussion

vyasvyas OGContent Writer

I watched Satya Nadella video talking about it, then came pricing leak

“ The company showed a screenshot that mentioned a monthly subscription of $31 (roughly Rs. 2,300) for the configuration that comprises two CPUs, 4GB of RAM, and 128GB storage. It will be a part of the Windows 365 Business option that is meant for businesses with fewer than 300 users.”

What have you been able to gather about it so far? Do you think it is an also ran (Hello, Zune and windows smartphone) or a game changer?

Link to video: https://myinspire.microsoft.com/sessions/a80a31ae-565b-483d-ab34-b5e5b7fbc39b

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  • Stopped using MS word and its siblings like 10 years ago, basically when they were moving to subscription model.

    Been using libre office now.

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  • edited July 2021

    Video's too long to watch, but luckily there was a transcript available...(the part about Windows 365 starts at 00:30:00.476 - sadly, it was mostly fluff :disappointed: )

    So, based on what you posted, unless I'm missing something, this sounds just like a Windows DaaS, and the pricing is really similar to https://aws.amazon.com/workspaces/pricing/ - thus, definitely not a game changer, neither product wise nor price wise:tongue: Azure (MS) is sure trying hard to catch up to AWS...

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    Streaming Windows OS…..
    anyone else that think of Thin Clients?

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    @mikho said:
    Streaming Windows OS…..
    anyone else that think of Thin Clients?

    yep, and [pair that with google stadia and you have a pretty beefy pc for 100 dollars + 70? dollars per month plus internet costs

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  • Wouldn't be surprised if we switch to this at work. We're already on tablets rather than laptops

    Personally not interested. Trying to self host more and monthly pay for less

  • edited July 2021

    I could see Windows-by-subscription working in a (small/smaller) business environment, especially if it means that one could save hiring a local person to keep Windows and related applications up-to-date in the office.

    As far as the average end-consumer is concerned, I suspect that they'll be hesitant to add yet another subscription to their monthly bills.

    I sometimes use the free version of Word at office.com, which is kind of neat, but I also mostly use LibreOffice Writer.

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  • Monthly cost is not lowend so no

  • Terrible idea. I doubt many of their enterprise customers would want to make their business dependable of a working internet connection.

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  • I think it really too expensive.
    I can easily buy a NAT-based RDP server for Remote Working in less than three dollars per mo.
    What's their reason for me to pay 31 dollars?

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  • @tzchz said:
    I can easily buy a NAT-based RDP server for Remote Working in less than three dollars per mo.
    What's their reason for me to pay 31 dollars?

    It's a reliable (supposedly :P) and managed service integrated with AD, that's why ;)

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  • @webcraft said:
    Terrible idea. I doubt many of their enterprise customers would want to make their business dependable of a working internet connection.

    I raised this with my company's IT guy and he is basically saying "hahaha... What?"

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  • @terrorgen said:
    I raised this with my company's IT guy and he is basically saying "hahaha... What?"

    That’s why a company should have at least two internet services, the main one and a backup one.

  • What about going with NexusBytes? Lower cost and Win Server 19 License is included

  • @danielcardosopt said:

    @terrorgen said:
    I raised this with my company's IT guy and he is basically saying "hahaha... What?"

    That’s why a company should have at least two internet services, the main one and a backup one.

    Not realistic to ask people working from home to have 2 internet connections.

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  • @terrorgen said:
    Not realistic to ask people working from home to have 2 internet connections.

    Really? Personally, I got another one without even being asked by the company...
    Obviously, my backup isn't the fastest (just the bare minimum required for RDP), but since it costs pennies, it's worth it IMO
    (otherwise, in case of a failing connection, one would have to commute on a packed train and sit the whole day in a mask inside the office, something I'd definitely want to avoid nowadays)

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  • @chimichurri said:

    @terrorgen said:
    Not realistic to ask people working from home to have 2 internet connections.

    Really? Personally, I got another one without even being asked by the company...
    Obviously, my backup isn't the fastest (just the bare minimum required for RDP), but since it costs pennies, it's worth it IMO
    (otherwise, in case of a failing connection, one would have to commute on a packed train and sit the whole day in a mask inside the office, something I'd definitely want to avoid nowadays)

    My home doesn't even have an 'internet' provider and I use 4G unlimited internet as my main network. I have a shared office near my house with a great internet connection and free coffee. This requires me to pay my own rent, but I think it is worth it.

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  • @chimichurri said:

    @terrorgen said:
    Not realistic to ask people working from home to have 2 internet connections.

    Really? Personally, I got another one without even being asked by the company...
    Obviously, my backup isn't the fastest (just the bare minimum required for RDP), but since it costs pennies, it's worth it IMO
    (otherwise, in case of a failing connection, one would have to commute on a packed train and sit the whole day in a mask inside the office, something I'd definitely want to avoid nowadays)

    I guess you are not in the US, eh?

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    IMHO the price point is wrong, for $31 over 4 years (the usual serviceable life of a desktop or laptop in an office) it is significantly more expensive than owning the physical asset which has its own benefits. and the specs are low and you need an asset to use it to begin with.

    if it was $10 - $15 then maybe.

    That's not my inner cheapo that just seems to be logical.

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  • @terrorgen said:
    Not realistic to ask people working from home to have 2 internet connections.

    I think most people already do. Atleast here in Sweden, most people have a fiber connection at home and an unlimited 4G subscription in their phone. If the fiber goes down you enable hotspot sharing on your phone and you are back online within seconds.

  • edited July 2021

    @rcy026 said:

    @terrorgen said:
    Not realistic to ask people working from home to have 2 internet connections.

    I think most people already do. Atleast here in Sweden, most people have a fiber connection at home and an unlimited 4G subscription in their phone. If the fiber goes down you enable hotspot sharing on your phone and you are back online within seconds.

    Oh I was talking about a multiwan situation where you have equipment to switch between the two.

    In the US, what you said is doable, except most people don't have the monthly quota on their cell to have prolonged work done.

    And most people in the US are either on DSL or Cable, fiber is not available everywhere.

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  • @terrorgen said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @terrorgen said:
    Not realistic to ask people working from home to have 2 internet connections.

    I think most people already do. Atleast here in Sweden, most people have a fiber connection at home and an unlimited 4G subscription in their phone. If the fiber goes down you enable hotspot sharing on your phone and you are back online within seconds.

    Oh I was talking about a multiwan situation where you have equipment to switch between the two.

    I find it hard to see any kind of work done from home that would require that kind of redundancy. I work almost exclusively from home right now and most of my work is done via rdp. Losing connectivity for the few seconds it takes to manually switch to 4G wont even log me out of my rdp sessions.

    In the US, what you said is doable, except most people don't have the monthly quota on their cell to have prolonged work done.

    And most people in the US are either on DSL or Cable, fiber is not available everywhere.

    Microsoft does not design everything exclusively for the US market, they sell in other parts of the world to. And in a few years the US have hopefully caught up regarding infrastructure and cellphone plans.

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  • What i get from you is that US internet sucks (and yes it is)

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    @webcraft said:
    Terrible idea. I doubt many of their enterprise customers would want to make their business dependable of a working internet connection.

    A lot of businesses are already depending on a working Internet connection, companies that use Private Cloud solutions (hosted by another company) and/or using e-mail as their main point of contact.

    @tzchz said:
    I think it really too expensive.
    I can easily buy a NAT-based RDP server for Remote Working in less than three dollars per mo.
    What's their reason for me to pay 31 dollars?

    The price will change along the way, this is for the early adopters, the same type of people who buys the new Apple iPhone when they actually don't need to.

  • $24 month for 1CPU and 2GB Ram… maybe I’m missing something but why wouldn’t I just buy a VPS and a windows license?

  • @AaronSS said:
    $24 month for 1CPU and 2GB Ram… maybe I’m missing something but why wouldn’t I just buy a VPS and a windows license?

    Iirc this comes with a legal copy of Windows 10 Enterprise

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  • @sanvit said:

    @AaronSS said:
    $24 month for 1CPU and 2GB Ram… maybe I’m missing something but why wouldn’t I just buy a VPS and a windows license?

    Iirc this comes with a legal copy of Windows 10 Enterprise

    ???

    I said I would buy a license. I guess that doesn’t technically give me virtualization rights?

  • I could see my employer going for this. We're all on tablets anyway and it's all internet based already (well mix of intra and inter)

  • @AaronSS said:

    @sanvit said:

    @AaronSS said:
    $24 month for 1CPU and 2GB Ram… maybe I’m missing something but why wouldn’t I just buy a VPS and a windows license?

    Iirc this comes with a legal copy of Windows 10 Enterprise

    ???

    I said I would buy a license. I guess that doesn’t technically give me virtualization rights?

    iirc Microsoft doesn’t allow running Windows 10 on public clouds unless you have a special agreement with them

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