Are you on IPv4 or IPv6 (Poll)

somiksomik OG
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This is an extension to the thread:
https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/7625/why-are-people-still-using-ipv4

Instead of asking why are people still using it, I want to how many people are on IPv6.

For me, my home router is on IPv4 + IPv6 however all of my servers are on IPv4 only. Is it the same for you?

Are you using IPv6 on any of your devices/router/servers?
  1. Yes, on all mobile devices, home router & servers63 votes
    1. Yes, but only on some home devices & servers
      25.40%
    2. Yes, only on all of my home devices
        9.52%
    3. Yes, only on all of my servers
        4.76%
    4. Yes, only on some of my servers
      11.11%
    5. No, all my home devices and servers run on IPv4
      44.44%
    6. Others (in comments)
        4.76%

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  • wankelwankel OG

    Beware, the first "option" when creating the poll is a trap!

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  • c1vhostingc1vhosting

    It is missing "Yes for everything" option

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  • rm_rm_

    What a scam poll.

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  • Otus9051Otus9051

    You have been fooled by Vanilla.

    youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU

  • skhronskhron Hosting Provider
    edited April 8

    Technically, I have IPv6 on all of my devices thanks to VPN. However, no home/mobile connection has native IPv6 connectivity, only servers.

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  • somiksomik OG

    @wankel said:
    Beware, the first "option" when creating the poll is a trap!

    Damn... I even checked it over to make sure it was ok. Totally missed that. Now I cannot even edit it...

    __> @c1vhosting said:

    It is missing "Yes for everything" option

    Sorry for that.

    @rm_ said:
    What a scam poll.

    :lol:

    @Otus9051 said:
    You have been fooled by Vanilla.

    Lol, yep, you got that right!

    @skhron said:
    Technically, I have IPv6 on all of my devices thanks to VPN. However, no home/mobile connection has native IPv6 connectivity, only servers.

    My home has native IPv6 but only the newer phones/computers support it. None of the IOT devices support IPv6...

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  • skhronskhron Hosting Provider
    edited April 8

    @somik said: My home has native IPv6 but only the newer phones/computers support it.

    How old is your phone? Wikipedia says IPv6 is supported since Android 4.2 (released 12 years ago)

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  • somiksomik OG

    @skhron said:

    @somik said: My home has native IPv6 but only the newer phones/computers support it.

    How old is your phone? Wikipedia says IPv6 is supported since Android 4.2 (released 12 years ago)

    I am not sure if it is the phone OS customization, but one of the chinese phones in the house do not support IPv6. All samsung/iPhones phones we use supports IPv6.

    I still have not figured out how to enable IPv6 on any of the Linux home-servers I run in my house (all ubuntu/debian based), including my proxmox server...

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  • skhronskhron Hosting Provider

    @somik said: I still have not figured out how to enable IPv6 on any of the Linux home-servers I run in my house (all ubuntu/debian based), including my proxmox server...

    Unless you use custom kernel with IPv6 support disabled or sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1, it is enabled.

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  • somiksomik OG
    edited April 8

    @skhron said:

    @somik said: I still have not figured out how to enable IPv6 on any of the Linux home-servers I run in my house (all ubuntu/debian based), including my proxmox server...

    Unless you use custom kernel with IPv6 support disabled or sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1, it is enabled.

    IPv6 is enabled, but I cant get them to request a IP from my router... The windows PC does it just fine. So does my raspberry Pi, but proxmox config for IPv6 still confuses me and any LXC container running on proxmox can get a IPv4 ip from the router but not any IPv6 IP...

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  • skhronskhron Hosting Provider

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  • somiksomik OG

    @skhron said:
    Might be misconfiguration of firewall I believe

    No, it's probably a misconfiguration on the Proxmox network config itself. It picked up the IPv4 from the DHCP but can't do the same for IPv6 and I got no idea how to configure it properly... Last time I tried it, had to revert it cause it was no longer able to connect to the internet...

    Any VM on the KVM is able to get a IPv6 just fine, so some weird configuration miss-out on my end.

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  • terrorgenterrorgen OG
    edited April 8

    My Proxmox LXC and KVM gets IPv6 from my router just fine...

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  • Otus9051Otus9051

    All of my devices at home get v6 via AS55836, and Airtel was good enough to provide v6 with mobile networks, so there's that.

    youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU

  • somiksomik OG

    @terrorgen said:
    My Proxmox LXC and KVM gets IPv6 from my router just fine...

    Please share your configuration! I could not even get my proxmox server to pick up my ipv6...

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  • somiksomik OG

    @Otus9051 said:
    All of my devices at home get v6 via AS55836, and Airtel was good enough to provide v6 with mobile networks, so there's that.

    India? Wow! They are improving fast!

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  • MumblyMumbly
    edited April 8

    @somik said: India? Wow! They are improving fast!

    "According to Google's statistics, India has reached an IPv6 adoption level of around 68.94% in January 2023. As of 2022, APNIC placed India at more than 75% preferring IPv6.

    Countries including France, Germany and India now run the majority of their traffic to Google over IPv6, with other countries including the United States, Brazil and Japan approaching 50%."

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment

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  • NeoonNeoon OG

    For Gaming, Windows machine runs IPv4 only.
    Otherwise Dualstack if available.

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  • rcy026rcy026

    I run ipv6 on everything and some, but not all, of my servers are dual stacked with ip4 as well. Couldn't really find an option in the poll that matches that.

  • terrorgenterrorgen OG

    @somik said:

    @terrorgen said:
    My Proxmox LXC and KVM gets IPv6 from my router just fine...

    Please share your configuration! I could not even get my proxmox server to pick up my ipv6...

    Make sure your proxmox's and the lxc's net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 has the value 0.
    set your lxc's IPv6 address to be SLAAC.

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  • DataRecoveryDataRecovery OG

    @somik said: why are people still using it

    Because we can afford premium, IPv4-only connectivity.

    • IPv6 is soy milk, IPv4 is rich full cream milk;
    • IPv6 is margarine, IPv4 is dairy butter;
    • IPv6 is instant noodles, IPv4 is pasta Bolognaise;
    • IPv6 is roasted cockroaches, IPv4 is Wagyu steak.
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  • terrorgenterrorgen OG

    @DataRecovery said:

    @somik said: why are people still using it

    Because we can afford premium, IPv4-only connectivity.

    • IPv6 is soy milk, IPv4 is rich full cream milk;
    • IPv6 is margarine, IPv4 is dairy butter;
    • IPv6 is instant noodles, IPv4 is pasta Bolognaise;
    • IPv6 is roasted cockroaches, IPv4 is Wagyu steak.

    premium only exists in your mind.

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  • wankelwankel OG

    @terrorgen said:

    @DataRecovery said:

    @somik said: why are people still using it

    Because we can afford premium, IPv4-only connectivity.

    • IPv6 is soy milk, IPv4 is rich full cream milk;
    • IPv6 is margarine, IPv4 is dairy butter;
    • IPv6 is instant noodles, IPv4 is pasta Bolognaise;
    • IPv6 is roasted cockroaches, IPv4 is Wagyu steak.

    premium only exists in your mind.

    I think he means to say: "Like it or not, but IPv6 is healthier for you!"

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  • eliphaseliphas

    Yes, only on all of my home devices and only on some of my servers
    And the most powerful of the VPSs are using ipv9

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  • NeoonNeoon OG

    @DataRecovery said:

    @somik said: why are people still using it

    Because we can afford premium, IPv4-only connectivity.

    • IPv6 is soy milk, IPv4 is rich full cream milk;
    • IPv6 is margarine, IPv4 is dairy butter;
    • IPv6 is instant noodles, IPv4 is pasta Bolognaise;
    • IPv6 is roasted cockroaches, IPv4 is Wagyu steak.

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  • somiksomik OG

    @Mumbly said:

    @somik said: India? Wow! They are improving fast!

    "According to Google's statistics, India has reached an IPv6 adoption level of around 68.94% in January 2023. As of 2022, APNIC placed India at more than 75% preferring IPv6.

    Countries including France, Germany and India now run the majority of their traffic to Google over IPv6, with other countries including the United States, Brazil and Japan approaching 50%."

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment

    Singapore's statistics are not that good yet...
    https://ipv6-test.com/stats/country/SG

    @rcy026 said:
    I run ipv6 on everything and some, but not all, of my servers are dual stacked with ip4 as well. Couldn't really find an option in the poll that matches that.

    My dedicated server DC do not support IPv6 for my server...

    @DataRecovery said:

    @somik said: why are people still using it

    Because we can afford premium, IPv4-only connectivity.

    • IPv6 is soy milk, IPv4 is rich full cream milk;
    • IPv6 is margarine, IPv4 is dairy butter;
    • IPv6 is instant noodles, IPv4 is pasta Bolognaise;
    • IPv6 is roasted cockroaches, IPv4 is Wagyu steak.

    Explains why people love IPv6 :lol:

    As for me, I'll take my dairy butter grilled Wagyu steak with a side of rich full cream milk shake :D

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  • somiksomik OG

    @terrorgen said:

    @somik said:

    @terrorgen said:
    My Proxmox LXC and KVM gets IPv6 from my router just fine...

    Please share your configuration! I could not even get my proxmox server to pick up my ipv6...

    set your lxc's IPv6 address to be SLAAC.

    This was the issue. I did not use SLAAC but was trying with DHCP. Once I assigned a static IPv6 to the proxmox node and set the LXC to SLAAC and rebooted the container, it immediately got the IPv6 address!

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  • terrorgenterrorgen OG

    @somik said:

    @terrorgen said:

    @somik said:

    @terrorgen said:
    My Proxmox LXC and KVM gets IPv6 from my router just fine...

    Please share your configuration! I could not even get my proxmox server to pick up my ipv6...

    set your lxc's IPv6 address to be SLAAC.

    This was the issue. I did not use SLAAC but was trying with DHCP. Once I assigned a static IPv6 to the proxmox node and set the LXC to SLAAC and rebooted the container, it immediately got the IPv6 address!

    You probably don't have DHCPv6 set up. Which is why you are not getting an address via DHCP.

    SLAAC does not require DHCPv6. Rather, it takes the router advertisement containing prefix information and its own MAC address to formulate an IPv6 address.

    Glad I can help!

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  • somiksomik OG

    @terrorgen said:

    @somik said:

    @terrorgen said:

    @somik said:

    @terrorgen said:
    My Proxmox LXC and KVM gets IPv6 from my router just fine...

    Please share your configuration! I could not even get my proxmox server to pick up my ipv6...

    set your lxc's IPv6 address to be SLAAC.

    This was the issue. I did not use SLAAC but was trying with DHCP. Once I assigned a static IPv6 to the proxmox node and set the LXC to SLAAC and rebooted the container, it immediately got the IPv6 address!

    You probably don't have DHCPv6 set up. Which is why you are not getting an address via DHCP.

    SLAAC does not require DHCPv6. Rather, it takes the router advertisement containing prefix information and its own MAC address to formulate an IPv6 address.

    Glad I can help!

    Ya, forgot that native IPv6 support do not need a DHCPv6. As most other devices were picking up IPv6 automatically, it was my assumption that it was DHCP and not auto-self-assigned native IPv6.

    Again, thank you very much! This had been bugging me for over 2 years now that my server could not get IPv6 even though my ISP provides it!

    Now the new issue is my internal servers are accessible over the internet without going through my router's NAT firewall... Time to up the security on all! :(

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  • rcy026rcy026

    @somik said:

    Now the new issue is my internal servers are accessible over the internet without going through my router's NAT firewall... Time to up the security on all! :(

    It's not NAT but it should still pass the firewall. Default to deny becomes more important than ever when you run ipv6. :smile:

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