Stick with wired, you'll have less headaches in the end.
No preference to any particular brands. Razor is nice, but honestly I didn't think the experience was any different compared to the "cheapo" gaming mice on Amazon (~$20-ish).
+1 for wired. I used to buy an expensive Roccat Mouse in the past. Now it's just a 15-20€ mouse from one of the budget gaming brands on Amazon like Havit. Classic bigger gaming brands are Roccat, Razer, Corsair, Logitech even..
As for keyboards, I notice much more of a difference between an expensive gaming keyboard and a 20€ cheapo.
Logitech G903 Lightspeed works great. Logitech's R&D they did on the wireless protocol works wonders even in a contaminated RF environment and the battery life is stellar. Well worth the price.
How old is he and what does he play? Kids that don't know any better will have fun with cheap mice. That said, I got my 5 year old a cheap wireless Logitech keyboard + mouse set but he ahhhed and ohhhed so much at my MX518 revamp's autoclicker (we play Roblox together) that "Santa" "brought him one", too.
Personally, I hate Chinese mice, but then I hate all non-Logitech-MX-mice.
Logitechs get a lot of flak for their Omron switches, but if you want to preserve the health of your son's finger joints for longer, those light clicks might help.
I have one of these, I dont use the side buttons much, converted the DPI buttons to forward and back buttons for easy browsing, and assign like button 10 to Push-to-Talk.
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But it's good - and was relatively cheap (under $30). Not sure where to buy it now. It's still available in Serbia.
Software customization is crappy, so that's a downside. But the basic functionality works - and it seems durable. Ergonomy is good, apart from the wheel which is a bit more textured than I'd like (prefer smoother wheels).
Has weight and size of "how they used to make 'em." I've used it for work primarily, but I love gaming and it does that job too very well.
As @Mason said above - avoid wireless unless really pressed for it. Especially for gaming. Yes, in theory, gaming peripherals are super-fast and all. In practice... Not really always.
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Stick with wired, you'll have less headaches in the end.
No preference to any particular brands. Razor is nice, but honestly I didn't think the experience was any different compared to the "cheapo" gaming mice on Amazon (~$20-ish).
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Also razor deathadder (essential) is a good mouse
Beware of buying Logitech mice all have double click issue , razor uses optical switches and does not suffer from same issue
edit: anyway, I dislike Razer products with a passion, when I bought a Razer Blackwidow and the E key keeps repeating, I send Support requests and RMA request (denied) and they said I need to upgrade the firmware to fix it, it has never been fixed and is sitting in my cupboard and will most likely never be used because razer would not fix their fucked up product. I had a Naga Molten mouse that the right button died after 3 months of use, I replaced it myself with a cheap one from china, and that lasted over a year.
From my experience or rather opinion, (ultra) lightweight mouse are only good, if you are playing fingertip grip too.
With palm or claw grip your palm usually touches the mouse body and does not feel comfy with those skeleton covers. Also I feel you need more (counter) weight for claw grip, so I couldn't do much with that one he picked.
However, may work for him, depending on the games he plays and grip he develops.
I've learned not to buy super high end. The wheel is mechanical & fundamentally exposed to gunk so only a matter of time before it gives issue regardless of price. My razor died that way
These days I just get a mid tier wireless logitech whenever they're on special
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Started with original clip-on, then Marble, then 2 wireless. Have progressed to MX Ergo, at considerable cost! (Serviced i.e. cleaned out last week, after ~2 years usage. The spokes of the wheel were clogged up with fluff.)
I quite like my Ducky Frozen Feather mostly because I like purple and blue, but the actual mouse is very nice too. It's an ultralight wired, so if you don't like super light mice it might not be fantastic. It also comes in black if you're not a fan of the purple.
Glorious makes some great products and they're a legitimate company. I've tried out Bloody, Roccat, Glorious, Logitech, Razer, Dell, Microsoft, and a lot of other mice brands. I've settled on the Glorious Model O Wireless and have been using it for the past year, highly recommend.
I ended up really liking it and it ended up being the most comfortable for me with the games I play/grip I've used for the past few years. If possible, if you have a MicroCenter in person, you can potentially try & buy some of the Glorious products.
That being said, I know people who didn't like it, so it really depends on the type of person/games/grip.
If you use Honey there's a 25% coupon code for the Glorious store if I recall.
I think it's also important to remember that this is supposed to be a gift for your son. If he wishes for that specific mouse, then I'd get him that one if it's within budget. If it's outside budget that's another story, however, it's important to remember that he is the one who needs to be happy with it. While all mentioned advice in terms of what mice to use and what to watch out for (weigth, durability..) this is also a highly emotional/psychological thing. A friend or group of friends might have a similar mouse and it gives your son (on top of usability) the possibility to say "Hey, my super cool dad got me that mouse, too". It could also be just his individual preference. If he wishes for that one and it's within budget, again, there is little reason to get another mouse. Objectively speaking, there might be a better mouse out there, but that doesn't mean he wants that one. In that case, if you were to consider another mouse ask him why he wants the mouse he mentioned, first.
Tldr; Get him the mouse he wanted if it's within budget and the company behind it/reviews are not utter crap.
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Stick with wired, you'll have less headaches in the end.
No preference to any particular brands. Razor is nice, but honestly I didn't think the experience was any different compared to the "cheapo" gaming mice on Amazon (~$20-ish).
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+1 for wired. I used to buy an expensive Roccat Mouse in the past. Now it's just a 15-20€ mouse from one of the budget gaming brands on Amazon like Havit. Classic bigger gaming brands are Roccat, Razer, Corsair, Logitech even..
As for keyboards, I notice much more of a difference between an expensive gaming keyboard and a 20€ cheapo.
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Logitech G903 Lightspeed works great. Logitech's R&D they did on the wireless protocol works wonders even in a contaminated RF environment and the battery life is stellar. Well worth the price.
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g903-hero-wireless-gaming-mouse.910-005670.html
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look into the red dragon brand for cheap but good
RSI players use thumb trackballs.
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I use Redragon M908. I recommend it, it's both wired and wireless.
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How old is he and what does he play? Kids that don't know any better will have fun with cheap mice. That said, I got my 5 year old a cheap wireless Logitech keyboard + mouse set but he ahhhed and ohhhed so much at my MX518 revamp's autoclicker (we play Roblox together) that "Santa" "brought him one", too.
Personally, I hate Chinese mice, but then I hate all non-Logitech-MX-mice.
Logitechs get a lot of flak for their Omron switches, but if you want to preserve the health of your son's finger joints for longer, those light clicks might help.
he is almost 12.
Logitech cheap G302 or better G502, great software support
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I have one of these, I dont use the side buttons much, converted the DPI buttons to forward and back buttons for easy browsing, and assign like button 10 to Push-to-Talk.
having a larger hand, I find it fits nicely
what game? logitech b100 is universally usable as gaming moose
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But it's good - and was relatively cheap (under $30). Not sure where to buy it now. It's still available in Serbia.
Software customization is crappy, so that's a downside. But the basic functionality works - and it seems durable. Ergonomy is good, apart from the wheel which is a bit more textured than I'd like (prefer smoother wheels).
Has weight and size of "how they used to make 'em." I've used it for work primarily, but I love gaming and it does that job too very well.
As @Mason said above - avoid wireless unless really pressed for it. Especially for gaming. Yes, in theory, gaming peripherals are super-fast and all. In practice... Not really always.
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The best mouse I had was Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical
Should be worth buying if you can get an original one. Unsure how it will fit a 12 y.o. guy's hand though. Mine is probably bigger.
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Just found one of these in a box yesterday. Original white intellimouse. Kind of odd you brought it up.
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Also razor deathadder (essential) is a good mouse
Beware of buying Logitech mice all have double click issue , razor uses optical switches and does not suffer from same issue
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Logitech G502 Hero. A bit more expensive than some other options, but just works. Has a good sensor, a good feel to it and it’s sturdy.
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my son is asking for this one
Glorious Model O
https://www.gloriousgaming.com/products/glorious-model-o-black
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/razer-deathadder-essential/4.html
right?
edit: anyway, I dislike Razer products with a passion, when I bought a Razer Blackwidow and the E key keeps repeating, I send Support requests and RMA request (denied) and they said I need to upgrade the firmware to fix it, it has never been fixed and is sitting in my cupboard and will most likely never be used because razer would not fix their fucked up product. I had a Naga Molten mouse that the right button died after 3 months of use, I replaced it myself with a cheap one from china, and that lasted over a year.
From my experience or rather opinion, (ultra) lightweight mouse are only good, if you are playing fingertip grip too.
With palm or claw grip your palm usually touches the mouse body and does not feel comfy with those skeleton covers. Also I feel you need more (counter) weight for claw grip, so I couldn't do much with that one he picked.
However, may work for him, depending on the games he plays and grip he develops.
I've learned not to buy super high end. The wheel is mechanical & fundamentally exposed to gunk so only a matter of time before it gives issue regardless of price. My razor died that way
These days I just get a mid tier wireless logitech whenever they're on special
Started with original clip-on, then Marble, then 2 wireless. Have progressed to MX Ergo, at considerable cost!
(Serviced i.e. cleaned out last week, after ~2 years usage. The spokes of the wheel were clogged up with fluff.)
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away.
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I quite like my Ducky Frozen Feather mostly because I like purple and blue, but the actual mouse is very nice too. It's an ultralight wired, so if you don't like super light mice it might not be fantastic. It also comes in black if you're not a fan of the purple.
Glorious makes some great products and they're a legitimate company. I've tried out Bloody, Roccat, Glorious, Logitech, Razer, Dell, Microsoft, and a lot of other mice brands. I've settled on the Glorious Model O Wireless and have been using it for the past year, highly recommend.
I ended up really liking it and it ended up being the most comfortable for me with the games I play/grip I've used for the past few years. If possible, if you have a MicroCenter in person, you can potentially try & buy some of the Glorious products.
That being said, I know people who didn't like it, so it really depends on the type of person/games/grip.
If you use Honey there's a 25% coupon code for the Glorious store if I recall.
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I think it's also important to remember that this is supposed to be a gift for your son. If he wishes for that specific mouse, then I'd get him that one if it's within budget. If it's outside budget that's another story, however, it's important to remember that he is the one who needs to be happy with it. While all mentioned advice in terms of what mice to use and what to watch out for (weigth, durability..) this is also a highly emotional/psychological thing. A friend or group of friends might have a similar mouse and it gives your son (on top of usability) the possibility to say "Hey, my super cool dad got me that mouse, too". It could also be just his individual preference. If he wishes for that one and it's within budget, again, there is little reason to get another mouse. Objectively speaking, there might be a better mouse out there, but that doesn't mean he wants that one. In that case, if you were to consider another mouse ask him why he wants the mouse he mentioned, first.
Tldr; Get him the mouse he wanted if it's within budget and the company behind it/reviews are not utter crap.
Quoting good, old, Dale Carnegie here:
Personally I am very fond of strawberries and cream, but I have found that for some strange reason, fish prefer worms. So when I went fishing, I didn't think about what I wanted. I thought about what they wanted. I didn't bait the hook with strawberries and cream. Rather, I dangled a worm or grasshopper in front of the fish and said: "Wouldn't you like to have that?"
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