Suggestions for a hackerspace network

foxonefoxone OG
edited September 2023 in General

Hey!

Remember that crazy idea of buying a warehouse i opened a topic about? https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/5362/what-should-i-do-with-a-110m²-warehouse/p1

I finally bought a BIGGER ~130m² building to make a hackerspace and now I'm wondering about how to setup the network there. Ideally, the space will have some only-pay-electricity colocation space and internal services (proxmox backup server with tape backup, Proxmox VMs, nextcloud, peerbox, sbc colo, cdn, postgres database, video cards for AI/ML training... ???).
Additionally, a couple of friends with AS reached to me, wanting to do BGP and setup a small IXP over there.

My current idea is:

WAN (redundancy + load balancing):

  • 2.5/1.0 gbit fiber (dynamic IP)
  • Backup 5G network (up to 600mbit i believe) (dynamic IP)
  • coming soon, symmetrical 10gbit network (the PoP is 800mt away, need for work to finish)
    All the ISPs i use are at the Caldera/MIX-IT IXP :)

Networks:

  • Public = 172.20.0.0/14 "public" dn42 address (no need for port forwarding, you just need to peer with dn42 to access the network from outside)
  • Guest = internal ip (192.168.42.0/24) with peer isolation, firewall, also WAN is a VPN (connections do not exit from the actual WAN ip)
  • Local (trusted) = 192.168.44.0/24 (or bigger) no peer isolation, exits with hackerspace dynamic IP

These will also be broadcasted via Wi-FI.

Port forwarding / reverse proxying can be done by reverse proxy in milan with static IP, port forwarding on dynamic will be enabled in local (upnp).

But...

What equipment should i use? I am experienced with Unifi and Openwrt, but I honestly haven't done much in the last 2-3 years and didn't keep up with the news. Friend suggested to use Microtik, but last time i used it I remember it was quite user-unfriendly.

What is the cool cheap and good stuff? Since the network is 2.5gbit, it would be nice to have a fast wireless. Perhaps, some hidden gem that DCs are getting rid of?

Also, is the network idea solid? Or is there something i am overseeing?

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Comments

  • NeoonNeoon OG

    Openwrt is premium.
    Easy to configure a second WAN with failover if the first dies.

    As long it has a DHCP server, you can throw anything behind it as a WAN GW.

    Free NAT KVM | Free NAT LXC | Bobr

  • ehabehab

    you need a visit from @FlorinMarian

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  • benzbenz

    @ehab said: you need a visit from @FlorinMarian

    Add @Calin to the road-trip. ;)

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  • ehabehab

    @benz said:

    @ehab said: you need a visit from @FlorinMarian

    Add @Calin to the road-trip. ;)

    that would look like

  • foxonefoxone OG

    @benz said:

    @ehab said: you need a visit from @FlorinMarian

    Add @Calin to the road-trip. ;)

    No profit only fun :)
    But membership fee might come with free complimentary 1u colocation 😅

    @Neoon said:
    Openwrt is premium.
    Easy to configure a second WAN with failover if the first dies.

    As long it has a DHCP server, you can throw anything behind it as a WAN GW.

    The second wan still has a lot of bandwidth to spare, though, and would be a shame to only use as backup, I wonder if I should use something like https://www.openmptcprouter.com/ or I risk increasing latency or having a poorer network.

  • ChievoChievo OG

    Nice congrats for the purchase!!!

    I believe in good luck. Harder that I work ,luckier i get.

  • foxonefoxone OG
    edited September 2023

    @Chievo said:
    Nice congrats for the purchase!!!

    Thanks ^^
    Ironically i was in competition with a dentist, but he was on vacation and i was faster making a decent proposal to the seller :)

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  • ChievoChievo OG

    @foxone said:

    @Chievo said:
    Nice congrats for the purchase!!!

    Thanks ^^
    Ironically i was in competition with a dentist, but he was on vacation and i was faster making a decent proposal to the seller :)

    Funk the dentist hahahaha Well done! idealista.it ?

    I believe in good luck. Harder that I work ,luckier i get.

  • foxonefoxone OG

    @Chievo said:

    @foxone said:

    @Chievo said:
    Nice congrats for the purchase!!!

    Thanks ^^
    Ironically i was in competition with a dentist, but he was on vacation and i was faster making a decent proposal to the seller :)

    Funk the dentist hahahaha Well done! idealista.it ?

    Nope, sadly local real estate company (they took 3k oof)

  • ChievoChievo OG

    @foxone said:

    @Chievo said:

    @foxone said:

    @Chievo said:
    Nice congrats for the purchase!!!

    Thanks ^^
    Ironically i was in competition with a dentist, but he was on vacation and i was faster making a decent proposal to the seller :)

    Funk the dentist hahahaha Well done! idealista.it ?

    Nope, sadly local real estate company (they took 3k oof)

    Damn that people is everywhere like mosquitoes haha

    I believe in good luck. Harder that I work ,luckier i get.

  • foxonefoxone OG

    @Chievo said:

    @foxone said:

    @Chievo said:

    @foxone said:

    @Chievo said:
    Nice congrats for the purchase!!!

    Thanks ^^
    Ironically i was in competition with a dentist, but he was on vacation and i was faster making a decent proposal to the seller :)

    Funk the dentist hahahaha Well done! idealista.it ?

    Nope, sadly local real estate company (they took 3k oof)

    Damn that people is everywhere like mosquitoes haha

    They also seem to not like invoices and paying taxes. Guy pushed very strongly to only have a third (!!) of the payment invoiced, and the rest as cash. Told them i won't budge and only pay if they gave me a proper proforma with vat.

  • rootroot OG

    Congratulations on your purchase. What you need should be based on what you wish to achieve. I would recommend a datacentre, but please keep in mind the price of electricity going up, recession, possible corrupted politicians and many other aspects which generate uncertainty for long term future.

    I honestly recommend a datacentre only if you can allow DMCA content and freedom of speech. These things sell like crazy during recession periods since people will need to relieve stress. I guess this is why others were recommending advice from providers of Romania.

    Anyway, congratulations and lots of success! I can't wait to see more offers posted here.

  • crotaphiticuscrotaphiticus

    Fox can you please supply your latency to c1v DC?

  • ChievoChievo OG

    @root said:
    Congratulations on your purchase. What you need should be based on what you wish to achieve. I would recommend a datacentre, but please keep in mind the price of electricity going up, recession, possible corrupted politicians and many other aspects which generate uncertainty for long term future.

    I honestly recommend a datacentre only if you can allow DMCA content and freedom of speech. These things sell like crazy during recession periods since people will need to relieve stress. I guess this is why others were recommending advice from providers of Romania.

    Anyway, congratulations and lots of success! I can't wait to see more offers posted here.

    Electric bill is going down in Spain at least from 0.23 euros ( winter 2022-23) per KWH i am paying 0.13 right now.

    I believe in good luck. Harder that I work ,luckier i get.

  • foxonefoxone OG

    @crotaphiticus said:
    Fox can you please supply your latency to c1v DC?

    PING c1vhosting.it (152.89.170.12) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from cp.c1vhosting.it (152.89.170.12): icmp_seq=1 ttl=
52 time=40.9 ms
64 bytes from cp.c1vhosting.it (152.89.170.12): icmp_seq=2 ttl=
52 time=33.9 ms
64 bytes from cp.c1vhosting.it (152.89.170.12): icmp_seq=3 ttl=
52 time=34.8 ms
64 bytes from cp.c1vhosting.it (152.89.170.12): icmp_seq=4 ttl=
52 time=34.4 ms
64 bytes from cp.c1vhosting.it (152.89.170.12): icmp_seq=5 ttl=
52 time=34.7 ms
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