Looking for a stable YouTube alternative

bikegremlin · July 22

I've seen many platforms rise and fall.
Vimeo used to be fine, then they introduced high fees and very high limits on free tiers.

I'm looking for a free alternative to post my YouTube videos, as a sort of a backup in case YouTube has a problem (that would be in addition to offline backups, but I digress).

What would LESbians recommend?

A few of the platforms I've been looking into:
Dailymotion seems popular.
Rumble is advertising a lot but I'm not sure how long-term sustainable the platform is.

IMO, it all looks a lot like a half-baked solution compared to YouTube, but as a free alternative, it could be acceptable.

Almost forgot, if that's relevant: YouTube has strict policies (I'd call it censorship), and my videos are aligned with those (nothing controversial etc.). So, I would expect the other platforms to not have stricter (crazier) policies, and those should not be a problem.

vyas · July 22

Rumble seems fine. Or Bitchute or wait for BF and look up one of the deal aggregator sites for "Video Hosting". I got a couple of such deals that way- since it is backup to YT, even if one is gone, there is still the other.

Edit: Odysee is what I was also looking at when @lowendspiritxdax mentioned it below. Possible option

Chievo · July 22

Xvideos longlife to It
The bikeman enters in the scene and the woman IS Ready to repair his bike paying in .........advance

bikegremlin · July 22

@Chievo said:
Xvideos longlife to It
The bikeman enters in the scene and the woman IS Ready to repair his bike paying in .........advance

I fear they would ban me on that platform.
It's just way different standards:
All the videos involving mechanics on Xvideos end a lot more happily than mine.

lowendspiritxdax · July 22

https://help.odysee.tv/category-syncprogram/whatisyoutubesync/

Once heard of odysee being able to mirror your YouTube videos. Never used them however.

Chievo · July 22

@bikegremlin said:

@Chievo said:
Xvideos longlife to It
The bikeman enters in the scene and the woman IS Ready to repair his bike paying in .........advance

I fear they would ban me on that platform.
It's just way different standards:
All the videos involving mechanics on Xvideos end a lot more happily than mine.

Mmm if i am not wrong some time ago a math profesor gone viral because he was uploading some normal math content in Xvideos and he has tons of users following It ....Ready to make some bikegremlin BIG Strong enough marketing ???? Read their terms and conditions i mean if the math profesor would have done It why not the bikegremlin ?

bikegremlin · July 22

@lowendspiritxdax said:
https://help.odysee.tv/category-syncprogram/whatisyoutubesync/

Once heard of odysee being able to mirror your YouTube videos. Never used them however.

I gave it a go. From the time of testing:

Pros:
It is free.
It can automatically import YouTube videos.

Cons:
Quite slow & buggy.
Doesn't allow monetization for us in Serbia (don't like being discriminated).
Not sure about those other platforms' monetization - may be the same there too.

bikegremlin · July 22

@Chievo said:

@bikegremlin said:

@Chievo said:
Xvideos longlife to It
The bikeman enters in the scene and the woman IS Ready to repair his bike paying in .........advance

I fear they would ban me on that platform.
It's just way different standards:
All the videos involving mechanics on Xvideos end a lot more happily than mine.

Mmm if i am not wrong some time ago a math profesor gone viral because he was uploading some normal math content in Xvideos and he has tons of users following It ....Ready to make some bikegremlin BIG Strong enough marketing ???? Read their terms and conditions i mean if the math profesor would have done It why not the bikegremlin ?

"This is a standard 28-inch bicycle wheel. And this is what ten inches really looks like! Thank you for watching."

NameCrane · July 22

Rumble seems to be the clear #2 at the moment, and are quite well funded. They've been doing contracts and other exclusivity deals with big content creators. I'm also seeing more ads on videos/streams so it looks like their sales team is doing some work.

Odysee has also been around for years, but I find their UI to be super clunky.

bikegremlin · July 22

@NameCrane said:
Rumble seems to be the clear #2 at the moment, and are quite well funded. They've been doing contracts and other exclusivity deals with big content creators. I'm also seeing more ads on videos/streams so it looks like their sales team is doing some work.

Odysee has also been around for years, but I find their UI to be super clunky.

Same experience with Odysee.

Rumble:
Yup. I found out about the platform when they emailed me, suggesting I start uploading my videos there, alongside YouTube (their policy doesn't prohibit hosting videos on both platforms). And I could exchange back-and-forth emails with a real, live person there (as opposed to YouTube for example).

Chievo · July 22

https://nypost.com/2021/11/03/taiwanese-math-teacher-uses-pornhub-to-reach-more-students/

Chievo · July 22

@bikegremlin said:

@Chievo said:

@bikegremlin said:

@Chievo said:
Xvideos longlife to It
The bikeman enters in the scene and the woman IS Ready to repair his bike paying in .........advance

I fear they would ban me on that platform.
It's just way different standards:
All the videos involving mechanics on Xvideos end a lot more happily than mine.

Mmm if i am not wrong some time ago a math profesor gone viral because he was uploading some normal math content in Xvideos and he has tons of users following It ....Ready to make some bikegremlin BIG Strong enough marketing ???? Read their terms and conditions i mean if the math profesor would have done It why not the bikegremlin ?

"This is a standard 28-inch bicycle wheel. And this is what ten inches really looks like! Thank you for watching."

28inch damn ......That are even bigger than the Big black Strong disksc that are uploaded there

Chievo · July 22

@bikegremlin said:

@lowendspiritxdax said:
https://help.odysee.tv/category-syncprogram/whatisyoutubesync/

Once heard of odysee being able to mirror your YouTube videos. Never used them however.

I gave it a go. From the time of testing:

Pros:
It is free.
It can automatically import YouTube videos.

Cons:
Quite slow & buggy.
Doesn't allow monetization for us in Serbia (don't like being discriminated).
Not sure about those other platforms' monetization - may be the same there too.

Usuallt they are made for US people or so. So some countries really do not care about them thinking brain unfortunately

Amadex · July 22

PeerTube

https://joinpeertube.org/

havoc · July 22

Floatplane?

Unsure whether it costs to post there.

bikegremlin · July 22

@havoc said:
Floatplane?

Unsure whether it costs to post there.

Floatplane requires viewer to pay subscription.
I don't like that.
Everything I make and publish should be available for free.
Patreon donations are more than welcome, but not required in order to see any article or video. I still remember the times when one dollar was an unachievable amount of wealth (or price to pay) for me.

Edit:
Apparently, it doesn't cost to host videos there, but I'd prefer to find a free to watch alternative.

vyas · July 22

Use substack for every fourth video to build up following and direct then to p0rnhub Rumble

Chievo · July 22

Vbox 7 bulgarian YouTube. I Guess you are looking for a nice options but well It IS balkan platform. I Guess they are not paying nothing not sure if IS free to upload there. Just asking check It if you are interested

havoc · July 22

@bikegremlin said: Floatplane requires viewer to pay subscription.
I don't like that.

Thing is serving vast amounts of video b/w ain't cheap. So your options are either the google model (ads, tracking) or paid model.

There is no "other"...unless you count ones that are still bootstrapping or using venture cap money to subsidize it temporarily. Eventually those too will need to pick option 1 or option 2.

Lately I've much preferred to support places that are upfront about what the plan is to reach financial viability. Been burned too many times by "option" 3 and dislike the google model

bikegremlin · July 22

@Chievo said:
Vbox 7 bulgarian YouTube. I Guess you are looking for a nice options but well It IS balkan platform. I Guess they are not paying nothing not sure if IS free to upload there. Just asking check It if you are interested

Rumble looks like the best (or the least bad) alternative for now.

Vbox7 looks like the Serbian YouTube.

Fritz · July 22

@Chievo said:
Xvideos longlife to It
The bikeman enters in the scene and the woman IS Ready to repair his bike paying in .........advance

No man, choose RedTube instead.

Chievo · July 22

@bikegremlin said:

@Chievo said:
Vbox 7 bulgarian YouTube. I Guess you are looking for a nice options but well It IS balkan platform. I Guess they are not paying nothing not sure if IS free to upload there. Just asking check It if you are interested

Rumble looks like the best (or the least bad) alternative for now.

Vbox7 looks like the Serbian YouTube.

You smell the pleskavica IS not It??????

bikegremlin · July 22

@havoc said:

@bikegremlin said: Floatplane requires viewer to pay subscription.
I don't like that.

Thing is serving vast amounts of video b/w ain't cheap. So your options are either the google model (ads, tracking) or paid model.

There is no "other"...unless you count ones that are still bootstrapping or using venture cap money to subsidize it temporarily. Eventually those too will need to pick option 1 or option 2.

Lately I've much preferred to support places that are upfront about what the plan is to reach financial viability. Been burned too many times by "option" 3 and dislike the google model

I understand.
From a low-income-friendly perspective, the Google model is better.

I don't mind posting on a third, paid only platform though. Not that any of such platforms seem interested into non-commercial stuff as far as I can see. Applied to the Floatplane (doesn't cost ), and previously uploaded a few videos to Rumble (works OK for now).

sanvit · July 22

BunnyStream with Volume Zones, or just cloudflare R2 with custom player?

lowendspiritxdax · July 22

@sanvit said:
BunnyStream with Volume Zones, or just cloudflare R2 with custom player?

That cost money though. And not a low amount, if you accumulate a lot of videos over the years.

BulletServers · July 23

twitch maybe ?

davide · July 23

TikTok is good too. Upload videos to TikTok if you don't want me to ever see them.

wankel · July 23

I'd recommend Peertube as well. Run it self hosted and let it sync your Youtube channel; you can replicate over multiple instances or have others federate your videos.

AnthonyT · July 23

Something else, I don't know if your against self hosting, but I have used https://mediacms.io/ in the past for self hosting, and it is pretty powerful, much more so if your not going to encode your videos in anything outside of the uploaded "default". I say powerful as I ran this off of a 2 GB Linode for over a year without a lick of problems.
The only "problems" I ran into it was it is not very easy to theme, and can't really mod it to well to say add ads/banners such if you want to make some monies.
Thanks

legendary · July 23

Well, beeg.com is my daily driver. But for purely pop videos, better than YT is not yet invented.

webhostingservers · July 25

dailymotion should be fine as a backup for YT

Looking for a stable YouTube alternative

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