@SocksAreComfortable said: if my plan is labeled now as "Pioneer XNova - Storage 5TB - I185 - G2" does that mean I'm on Gen 2, and should be good to go to keep using it indefinitely?
yappp.
well, I will not say indefinitely, as in 10 years from now i highly doubt we will run Scale Gen 2. , but the G2 will not be scheduled for decommission anytime soon.
Once I will redo all the TOS from ground UP, it will be sent out to all active customers.
Sweet, this is one of the VPS I actually use instead of just idling (unless a backup target counts as idling?). And yeah by indefinitely I just meant "for the planned, foreseeable future" really, lol.
Well, the upgrade from Scale Gen 2 to the next platform will be a big one, as we will leap 2-4 generations in CPU, this mostly because DELL does not have ant 26 bay models on G15, only on G16 and G17 R7X0XD2 chassy ( DDR5 ). But those are like their wight in gold today, so to be continued.
@host_c thanks for sharing this insightful mail. It’s good to hear from you after the silence; to be honest, it had me a bit worried.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with so much abuse. I got a small glimpse of what you providers have to deal with after putting some of my servers up for transfer on OGF; I wouldn’t be able to handle that for more than a day. The amount of silly and low-effort questions is insane.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
@Freek said: @host_c thanks for sharing this insightful mail. It’s good to hear from you after the silence; to be honest, it had me a bit worried.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with so much abuse. I got a small glimpse of what you providers have to deal with after putting some of my servers up for transfer on OGF; I wouldn’t be able to handle that for more than a day. The amount of silly and low-effort questions is insane.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
@Freek said: @host_c thanks for sharing this insightful mail. It’s good to hear from you after the silence; to be honest, it had me a bit worried.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with so much abuse. I got a small glimpse of what you providers have to deal with after putting some of my servers up for transfer on OGF; I wouldn’t be able to handle that for more than a day. The amount of silly and low-effort questions is insane.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
@Freek said: @host_c thanks for sharing this insightful mail. It’s good to hear from you after the silence; to be honest, it had me a bit worried.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with so much abuse. I got a small glimpse of what you providers have to deal with after putting some of my servers up for transfer on OGF; I wouldn’t be able to handle that for more than a day. The amount of silly and low-effort questions is insane.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
@Freek said: @host_c thanks for sharing this insightful mail. It’s good to hear from you after the silence; to be honest, it had me a bit worried.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with so much abuse. I got a small glimpse of what you providers have to deal with after putting some of my servers up for transfer on OGF; I wouldn’t be able to handle that for more than a day. The amount of silly and low-effort questions is insane.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
@Freek said: @host_c thanks for sharing this insightful mail. It’s good to hear from you after the silence; to be honest, it had me a bit worried.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with so much abuse. I got a small glimpse of what you providers have to deal with after putting some of my servers up for transfer on OGF; I wouldn’t be able to handle that for more than a day. The amount of silly and low-effort questions is insane.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
That VPS is not being discontinued though right? I remember @host_c sent out an email or talked about those meme ones that they were keeping them for the memes
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
That VPS is not being discontinued though right? I remember @host_c sent out an email or talked about those meme ones that they were keeping them for the memes
yap, those will not, plus others thatw ere in the BF / xmass sale in 2024.
They will be migrated to Scale Gen 2 as promised. I am just waiting for nodes to get silent a bit after the house keeping .
@host_c said:
Well, I think it is time we do not use forums for support tiket , tho this falls under announcements, here it is:
A Look Back at 2025 and the Road Ahead
Dear customers,
As many of you know, we entered 2025 with an ambitious list of improvements we wanted to deliver. Unfortunately, many of these plans did not materialize. Over the past few days, I took the time to analyze why.
The conclusion was straightforward: too much of our time was consumed by daily abuse cases, fake accounts, and operational distractions, leaving little room for the larger and more complicated projects we committed to.
And let’s be honest — 2025’s geopolitical and economic chaos did not help either. 🙂
For 2026, this will change.
Zero tolerance for fake accounts
We have repeatedly asked customers to update their profiles with real information. Some complied, many ignored the request.
To protect our platform and eliminate wasted time, we will enforce a 0-tolerance policy for fake accounts starting immediately.
Additionally:
→ We will tighten our fraud-protection rules.
After more than 12 months of operating our automated fraud-detection system, we can confirm its accuracy:
9 out of 10 flagged orders were indeed abusive
Orders manually approved just 1% above the fraud threshold turned abusive 9 out of 10 times
Therefore:
→ Borderline and suspicious orders will no longer be manually approved.
→ Fraud screening will be stricter and strictly enforced.
The TOS will be updated shortly.
Product naming issues & the $6 upgrade situation
We acknowledge that some product naming and upgrade communications in 2024–2025 caused confusion — some of it chaotic:
The Pioneer 5TB LET/LES editions created ambiguity (now corrected).
The upgrade from E5-V4 → Scale Gen1 is still misunderstood by some customers as an upgrade to Gen2.
In practice:
Scale Gen1 severely underperformed
It was retired quickly
Impacted customers were temporarily moved to Scale Gen2
This created a fairness issue:
Some customers paid $6 for an upgrade that did not provide long-term value, ending up on Scale Gen2, while others paid higher prices for native E5-V4 → Scale Gen2 plans.
To restore fairness and consistency:
→ All affected customers who paid the upgrade from E5-V4 to Scale Gen1 will receive a full $6 refund as account credit.
→ Services will be migrated back to their initial E5-V4 platform until final decommissioning.
→ This is mostly the case for the Pioneer 5TB and Nimitz 10TB plans.
This takes effect immediately as of 04-12-2025.
This corrects the imbalance, and no one loses anything. This was one of the largest operational mistakes of 2024–2025, and we have learned from it.
Abuse of promotional products & transfer restrictions
A large portion of platform abuse occurred on promotional products — often transferred repeatedly between users.
Some services changed owners five or more times in just a few months, and nearly every time ended up abused.
As it turns out, our initial wish to be flexible in this area came back to bite us.
Sometimes it is better to be more rigid, and flexibility should not be present in all parts of the service.
This is also why we did not participate in this year’s LET and LES Black Friday sales.
Until we develop a reliable anti-abuse formula, participating is a waste of resources and creates discomfort for existing customers.
Starting today, 04-12-2025:
→ Promotional products will no longer be transferable.
For list-priced (non-promo) services:
→ Transfers remain allowed but must be requested via support ticket.
There will be no other exceptions.
The TOS will be updated accordingly.
End-of-life for E5-V4 services
As previously announced, all E5-V4 services will be decommissioned by the end of 2025, with two exceptions:
Pioneer 5TB
Nimitz 10TB
There will be no other exceptions.
The E5-V4 platform is outdated, unstable, difficult to debug, and performs poorly on the 2025 hypervisor stack. It is no longer viable to maintain.
Looking ahead to 2026
2026 is just around the corner and, while I could say much more, I will keep it simple:
→ More attention to detail
→ Improved stability
→ Increased performance
We will roll out additional storage options using Hardware RAID10, correct mistakes of past years, bring new features, and focus on quality over all other aspects.
For those who stay with us: thank you, and a big hug.
Your support and patience mean a lot to us.
Happy holidays, and best wishes from our entire team.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
That VPS is not being discontinued though right? I remember @host_c sent out an email or talked about those meme ones that they were keeping them for the memes
yap, those will not, plus others thatw ere in the BF / xmass sale in 2024.
They will be migrated to Scale Gen 2 as promised. I am just waiting for nodes to get silent a bit after the house keeping .
we changed a NVME drive to a new one. ( old one was at 7% wear level and that is the upper limit for us )
Since we use only PCI-EX Enterprise cards, we have to take the server offline, open it up and replace the part.
Forgot that these 26 bay units are heavy as fuck
Plus a few other things, might say it went well, but it took much longer then I wanted.
@host_c said:
we changed a NVME drive to a new one. ( old one was at 7% wear level and that is the upper limit for us )
Since we use only PCI-EX Enterprise cards, we have to take the server offline, open it up and replace the part.
Forgot that these 26 bay units are heavy as fuck
Plus a few other things, might say it went well, but it took much longer then I wanted.
It is fine everything is fine. Send me the old drives please.
@Shot² said:
VM shutting down on me, did not get the email about a maintenance... for it was a maintenance indeed Weird.
(For a moment I thought the whole Eastern Yourop had just been sizzled to a crisp by some random nuclear strike.)
Should've been sent out yesterday (I got mine around 10:25 AM UTC on December 9th), caught in some spam filters perhaps?
Strangely I got every email from Host-C lately (my renewing, Nov 27 maintenance, 'look back at 2025') but nothing about a maintenance on my VM (and it does not show in the control panel 'Email history' either).
Very amateurish, I'm this close 🤏 to opening a Paypal dispute because I lost $bazillions during the 5 mn downtime. /s
@Shot² said:
VM shutting down on me, did not get the email about a maintenance... for it was a maintenance indeed Weird.
(For a moment I thought the whole Eastern Yourop had just been sizzled to a crisp by some random nuclear strike.)
Should've been sent out yesterday (I got mine around 10:25 AM UTC on December 9th), caught in some spam filters perhaps?
Strangely I got every email from Host-C lately (my renewing, Nov 27 maintenance, 'look back at 2025') but nothing about a maintenance on my VM (and it does not show in the control panel 'Email history' either).
Very amateurish, I'm this close 🤏 to opening a Paypal dispute because I lost $bazillions during the 5 mn downtime. /s
I think I know why that happened.
I hope you got back the trillions @Shot² - mail stuff fixed by now
Sorry for that by the way, that was on me
moving forward:
Over the next few days, your Fiat 500 Xmass Promo Deal VPS will be upgraded for free to a Xeon Scale Gen 2 CPU.
To avoid any data corruption due to the different CPU generations, this will be done as an offline migration.
During this process, your service may be temporarily offline for about 5–10 minutes. If you notice your VPS is offline during this window, please wait a few minutes for the migration to complete.
Thank you for your understanding, and happy holidays! 🎄
Others will follow, like the 1 to 10 USD / yearly xmass and 2024 BF deals. ( LES and OGF also )
I want to report that I did not receive the email about today’s reboot, nor did my server get a free reboot. And more importantly, I didn't get any free goodies like that free email, ultrageous.
Please be advised that this will be taken into consideration by Santa Claus.
@AuroraZero said: Mine got a reboot it is fine though I guess. the important one did not get a rebootables so it is cool. Also no email to any of my 16 addresses.
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Sweet, this is one of the VPS I actually use instead of just idling (unless a backup target counts as idling?). And yeah by indefinitely I just meant "for the planned, foreseeable future" really, lol.
Well, the upgrade from Scale Gen 2 to the next platform will be a big one, as we will leap 2-4 generations in CPU, this mostly because DELL does not have ant 26 bay models on G15, only on G16 and G17 R7X0XD2 chassy ( DDR5 ). But those are like their wight in gold today, so to be continued.
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”
@host_c thanks for sharing this insightful mail. It’s good to hear from you after the silence; to be honest, it had me a bit worried.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with so much abuse. I got a small glimpse of what you providers have to deal with after putting some of my servers up for transfer on OGF; I wouldn’t be able to handle that for more than a day. The amount of silly and low-effort questions is insane.
Looks like I’ll be the one complaining that his P**N collection has been deleted at the beginning of January.
Sad. I’m going to miss this little Yeti fella.
LinuxFreek.com — Hosted on 🇪🇺 Scaleway Stardust with Native IPv6 | IPv4 Proxy, WAF & DNS powered by 🇳🇱 DutchIS
Da fuq is that?
An user that met the Yeti
My precious
LinuxFreek.com — Hosted on 🇪🇺 Scaleway Stardust with Native IPv6 | IPv4 Proxy, WAF & DNS powered by 🇳🇱 DutchIS
You sick son of a ......
yetifans !!
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That VPS is not being discontinued though right? I remember @host_c sent out an email or talked about those meme ones that they were keeping them for the memes
Best and friendliest hosts Host-C , Hostbrr aff.
yap, those will not, plus others thatw ere in the BF / xmass sale in 2024.
They will be migrated to Scale Gen 2 as promised. I am just waiting for nodes to get silent a bit after the house keeping .
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”
as long as your service runs, IP's are not taken down from BGP, why would you "Freek" Out? - see what i did there?
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”
I Miss U....
https://ibb.co.com/dwQzDkxd
i am so scared to click the link... are those nude photos of him last summer?
last winter
All people in that picture are wearing pants. That is #trouserp0rn of the highest order
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why anything with "winter" in it reminds me of
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”
Awesome, thanks
Somehow I missed that memo.
Hehe
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VM shutting down on me, did not get the email about a maintenance... for it was a maintenance indeed
Weird.
(For a moment I thought the whole Eastern Yourop had just been sizzled to a crisp by some random nuclear strike.)
Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.
Should've been sent out yesterday (I got mine around 10:25 AM UTC on December 9th), caught in some spam filters perhaps?
Website: thomassen.sh
we changed a NVME drive to a new one. ( old one was at 7% wear level and that is the upper limit for us )
Since we use only PCI-EX Enterprise cards, we have to take the server offline, open it up and replace the part.
Forgot that these 26 bay units are heavy as fuck
Plus a few other things, might say it went well, but it took much longer then I wanted.
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”
It is fine everything is fine. Send me the old drives please.
Strangely I got every email from Host-C lately (my renewing, Nov 27 maintenance, 'look back at 2025') but nothing about a maintenance on my VM (and it does not show in the control panel 'Email history' either).
Very amateurish, I'm this close 🤏 to opening a Paypal dispute because I lost $bazillions during the 5 mn downtime. /s
Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.
I think I know why that happened.
I hope you got back the trillions
@Shot² - mail stuff fixed by now
Sorry for that by the way, that was on me
moving forward:
Over the next few days, your Fiat 500 Xmass Promo Deal VPS will be upgraded for free to a Xeon Scale Gen 2 CPU.
To avoid any data corruption due to the different CPU generations, this will be done as an offline migration.
During this process, your service may be temporarily offline for about 5–10 minutes. If you notice your VPS is offline during this window, please wait a few minutes for the migration to complete.
Thank you for your understanding, and happy holidays! 🎄
Others will follow, like the 1 to 10 USD / yearly xmass and 2024 BF deals. ( LES and OGF also )
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”
Please feel free to “accidentally” add some additional storage and bandwidth as well
Best and friendliest hosts Host-C , Hostbrr aff.
Nice
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”
These storage servers are such a good deal. YABS of mine below (which is Gen2 I suppose):
I wish @host_c opens a location in anywhere in US
I want to report that I did not receive the email about today’s reboot, nor did my server get a free reboot. And more importantly, I didn't get any free goodies like that free email, ultrageous.
Please be advised that this will be taken into consideration by Santa Claus.
Mine got a reboot it is fine though I guess. the important one did not get a rebootables so it is cool. Also no email to any of my 16 addresses.
So does HOST-C
that is the same as @Shot² , sry bro.
Host-C - VPS & Storage VPS Services – Reliable, Scalable and Fast - AS211462
“If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”