@SocksAreComfortable said:
I got a rootserver (KVM) and a VPS (LXC) on Black Friday last year. For the price, they work fine, but certainly nothing to write home about, and of course the point of the lifetime server is that the longer you use it the more value you get out of it. What's odd to me is that the LXC performs significantly better than the KVM despite having very similar hardware.
Agree. Although my LXC Finland has been down for 2 days now due to affected host system. That said, nothing crucial on it, so sitting it out. I also thought LXC performed better (and might get hw upgrades, where kvm won't).
Day 3 and Finland ist still unreachable. In the ZAP control panel I can't access it and it's marked as affected by an ongoing issue. That said Hetrixtool has been showing it "up" the whole time, it's just not reachable. Luckily, I'm only running non critical stuff on it.
@Ympker said:
Day 3 and Finland ist still unreachable. In the ZAP control panel I can't access it and it's marked as affected by an ongoing issue. That said Hetrixtool has been showing it "up" the whole time, it's just not reachable. Luckily, I'm only running non critical stuff on it.
Anyone else affected on Helsinki? Probably they don't have so many nodes there, which is why all of FL instances took a hit I'd assume:
@Ympker said:
Day 3 and Finland ist still unreachable. In the ZAP control panel I can't access it and it's marked as affected by an ongoing issue. That said Hetrixtool has been showing it "up" the whole time, it's just not reachable. Luckily, I'm only running non critical stuff on it.
Anyone else affected on Helsinki? Probably they don't have so many nodes there, which is why all of FL instances took a hit I'd assume:
Good to see that your host node seems to be up. My vps also shows online on Hetrix, but really isn't reachable. CPU spikes also seem really high considering my light-weight (normal) usage (compare to 30 days stats). https://hetrixtools.com/report/uptime/f409b9c69d3f363d8ef67455d5e6d4bc/
Doing my usual inventory check I noticed new listings with upgraded Gen 9 ProLiants featuring V4 Xeons appeared on their dedicated servers page, including:
2630 v4
2640 v4
2650 v4
Very interesting offer, considering the 2640v4 almost doubles the performance of my actual 2640v2. (12481 points vs 7590 points on CPU Benchmark.
They also list 512GB SSD capacities which makes me believe they might be NVMe drives. (Another nice upgrade over their crappy MX500/BX500 SATA SSDs)
It also seems to be available for lifetime servers
I will resist myself... I will resist...
@rubenmdh said:
Doing my usual inventory check I noticed new listings with upgraded Gen 9 ProLiants featuring V4 Xeons appeared on their dedicated servers page, including:
2630 v4
2640 v4
2650 v4
Very interesting offer, considering the 2640v4 almost doubles the performance of my actual 2640v2. (12481 points vs 7590 points on CPU Benchmark.
They also list 512GB SSD capacities which makes me believe they might be NVMe drives. (Another nice upgrade over their crappy MX500/BX500 SATA SSDs)
It also seems to be available for lifetime servers
I will resist myself... I will resist...
My Finland LXC has been down for 2 weeks now lol. Support told me via ticket that moving LXC during downtime is not possible, albeit I should've probably clarified I'd be okay with data being wiped and just redployment on another hostnode to make use of the vps. There was nothing crucial on it, I couldn't launch in 15 mins anyway. That said, support agent told me that apparently the disks were close to failing and they shipped new disks there, but due to remote hands not responding that fast (in Germany they have own staff in DCs and are more flexible) everything's taking longer. Anyway, asked support again now if they can just redploy with data loss (in theory).
The dedis are looking good. If I get more VPS, I guess I'll opt for Germany with their own staff though :P
Btw, @rubenmdh what are you running on your dedis?
@Ympker said:
Btw, @rubenmdh what are you running on your dedis?
Nothing too fancy, currently sharing it with a few friends to selfhost a few apps such as Vaultwarden, Piped, Shlink... plus a few personal websites, all running Proxmox. I used to hammer the CPU doing some AV1 transcodes (it worked surprisingly well) but that's on a hiatus right now.
I can confirm on site support within their FFM facility was quick during my disk replacement.
@Ympker said:
Btw, @rubenmdh what are you running on your dedis?
Nothing too fancy, currently sharing it with a few friends to selfhost a few apps such as Vaultwarden, Piped, Shlink... plus a few personal websites, all running Proxmox. I used to hammer the CPU doing some AV1 transcodes (it worked surprisingly well) but that's on a hiatus right now.
I can confirm on site support within their FFM facility was quick during my disk replacement.
Thanks for the feedback! Cool stuff
Yeah, it makes sense that replacements are faster with their own staff.
My Finland VPS is LXC, my Germany "Rootserver" is KVM. Seems like my LXC now also becomes KVM
Nice upgrade. I wonder how that will reflect the pricing though. Will the "cheaper" former lxc-line just disappear? If not, what will be the difference between vServer and Rootserver if both are KVM?
My Finland VPS is LXC, my Germany "Rootserver" is KVM. Seems like my LXC now also becomes KVM
Nice upgrade. I wonder how that will reflect the pricing though. Will the "cheaper" former lxc-line just disappear? If not, what will be the difference between vServer and Rootserver if both are KVM?
I'd say they will probably merge both. There is no real difference now, other than marketing gimmicks imo.
It's not like a lot has changed anyways, their Windows and FreeBSD VPS were already using KVM, of course. So it was just a matter of time.
I wonder if anything happened to 'force' them to make the move to full KVM.
My Finland VPS is LXC, my Germany "Rootserver" is KVM. Seems like my LXC now also becomes KVM
Nice upgrade. I wonder how that will reflect the pricing though. Will the "cheaper" former lxc-line just disappear? If not, what will be the difference between vServer and Rootserver if both are KVM?
I'd say they will probably merge both. There is no real difference now, other than marketing gimmicks imo.
It's not like a lot has changed anyways, their Windows and FreeBSD VPS were already using KVM, of course. So it was just a matter of time.
I wonder if anything happened to 'force' them to make the move to full KVM.
That's also my guess, but that would also mean that the (significantly cheaper) LXC product will disappear altogether with lifetime vps now starting at 150€ish instead of at 79€ish (LXC).
Probably they noticed KVM is the way to go. Might also mean we always get slower os updates now, because LXC supported Ubuntu 22/24 months ahead of KVM which was still at 20.04 EOL. However, you can use netboot to install latest with kvm
My Finland VPS is LXC, my Germany "Rootserver" is KVM. Seems like my LXC now also becomes KVM
Nice upgrade. I wonder how that will reflect the pricing though. Will the "cheaper" former lxc-line just disappear? If not, what will be the difference between vServer and Rootserver if both are KVM?
I'd say they will probably merge both. There is no real difference now, other than marketing gimmicks imo.
It's not like a lot has changed anyways, their Windows and FreeBSD VPS were already using KVM, of course. So it was just a matter of time.
I wonder if anything happened to 'force' them to make the move to full KVM.
That's also my guess, but that would also mean that the (significantly cheaper) LXC product will disappear altogether with lifetime vps now starting at 150€ish instead of at 79€ish (LXC).
Probably they noticed KVM is the way to go. Might also mean we always get slower os updates now, because LXC supported Ubuntu 22/24 months ahead of KVM which was still at 20.04 EOL. However, you can use netboot to install latest with kvm
Or they also probably realized they can share resources just like they did with LXC, since ballooning is enabled by default on all Root Servers (set to less than half of your purchased RAM ) and CPU resources the same way too.
My Finland VPS is LXC, my Germany "Rootserver" is KVM. Seems like my LXC now also becomes KVM
Nice upgrade. I wonder how that will reflect the pricing though. Will the "cheaper" former lxc-line just disappear? If not, what will be the difference between vServer and Rootserver if both are KVM?
I'd say they will probably merge both. There is no real difference now, other than marketing gimmicks imo.
It's not like a lot has changed anyways, their Windows and FreeBSD VPS were already using KVM, of course. So it was just a matter of time.
I wonder if anything happened to 'force' them to make the move to full KVM.
That's also my guess, but that would also mean that the (significantly cheaper) LXC product will disappear altogether with lifetime vps now starting at 150€ish instead of at 79€ish (LXC).
Probably they noticed KVM is the way to go. Might also mean we always get slower os updates now, because LXC supported Ubuntu 22/24 months ahead of KVM which was still at 20.04 EOL. However, you can use netboot to install latest with kvm
Or they also probably realized they can share resources just like they did with LXC, since ballooning is enabled by default on all Root Servers (set to less than half of your purchased RAM ) and CPU resources the same way too.
Which is misleading, considering their email explicitly implies "dedicated resources":
But I guess they could always say: "You are entitled to use all your allocated resources. We are just provisioning them elsewhere while you are not using them."
My Finland VPS is LXC, my Germany "Rootserver" is KVM. Seems like my LXC now also becomes KVM
Nice upgrade. I wonder how that will reflect the pricing though. Will the "cheaper" former lxc-line just disappear? If not, what will be the difference between vServer and Rootserver if both are KVM?
I'd say they will probably merge both. There is no real difference now, other than marketing gimmicks imo.
It's not like a lot has changed anyways, their Windows and FreeBSD VPS were already using KVM, of course. So it was just a matter of time.
I wonder if anything happened to 'force' them to make the move to full KVM.
That's also my guess, but that would also mean that the (significantly cheaper) LXC product will disappear altogether with lifetime vps now starting at 150€ish instead of at 79€ish (LXC).
Probably they noticed KVM is the way to go. Might also mean we always get slower os updates now, because LXC supported Ubuntu 22/24 months ahead of KVM which was still at 20.04 EOL. However, you can use netboot to install latest with kvm
Or they also probably realized they can share resources just like they did with LXC, since ballooning is enabled by default on all Root Servers (set to less than half of your purchased RAM ) and CPU resources the same way too.
Which is misleading, considering their email explicitly implies "dedicated resources":
But I guess they could always say: "You are entitled to use all your allocated resources. We are just provisioning them elsewhere while you are not using them."
I have a full ticket with them about that, and that they ended up disabling ballooning for me.
These are some quick screenshots (can post it fully, I don't mind, will probably end up making a thread because they got me super fucking mad)
That's just a bunch of bullshit (Proxmox enables ballooning by default, yeah, but the minimum RAM is always set to the same RAM you set to the VM, so effectively, 0 balloons of RAM can be made )
Preventing the load of the balloon module on the kernel is also forbidden for what it seems (although they messed up a few times in the ticket and some of their staff told me no, and some of them told me yes)
So effectively, all of their VMs have shared resources (except Storage), including RAM, which is just insane. I have never seen a provider ballooning RAM between VMs in my life, except probably the obvious Contabo-like ones
Right now only announced for game servers and VPS. Availability on lifetime services is unknown.
It's interesting they have upgraded from an almost 10yo platform to a fairly recent and powerful one, Ryzen 9000, that is. If they release a lifetime dedi with a Ryzen chip, you bet I will grab it asap and YABS it
Right now only announced for game servers and VPS. Availability on lifetime services is unknown.
It's interesting they have upgraded from an almost 10yo platform to a fairly recent and powerful one, Ryzen 9000, that is. If they release a lifetime dedi with a Ryzen chip, you bet I will grab it asap and YABS it
Ryzen chips are gonna be nice Hopefully they'll make it to Lifetime deals. How many lifetime dedis do you have with them again?
@Ympker said: Ryzen chips are gonna be nice Hopefully they'll make it to Lifetime deals.
but there is no info on the type of cpu you will get when ordering LTDs, or is there?
For KVM VPS it shows the cpu model during order process (you can choose standard or "premium" cpu), for lxc not. Someone wrote they were gonna also move lxc to kvm, so maybe we'll soon have cpu info for all.
Right now only announced for game servers and VPS. Availability on lifetime services is unknown.
It's interesting they have upgraded from an almost 10yo platform to a fairly recent and powerful one, Ryzen 9000, that is. If they release a lifetime dedi with a Ryzen chip, you bet I will grab it asap and YABS it
Ryzen chips are gonna be nice Hopefully they'll make it to Lifetime deals. How many lifetime dedis do you have with them again?
I have two.
2640v2 / 64GB / 500 GB SSD
2680v2 / 128GB / 2x 500 GB SSD <-- this one with extra IPv4
They have been working really well and are remarkably stable. I can't complain other than the lack of IPv6.
Right now only announced for game servers and VPS. Availability on lifetime services is unknown.
It's interesting they have upgraded from an almost 10yo platform to a fairly recent and powerful one, Ryzen 9000, that is. If they release a lifetime dedi with a Ryzen chip, you bet I will grab it asap and YABS it
Ryzen chips are gonna be nice Hopefully they'll make it to Lifetime deals. How many lifetime dedis do you have with them again?
I have two.
2640v2 / 64GB / 500 GB SSD
2680v2 / 128GB / 2x 500 GB SSD <-- this one with extra IPv4
They have been working really well and are remarkably stable. I can't complain other than the lack of IPv6.
Good news for you guys with VPS within FFM datacenter! Newer CPU models are coming soon. Really hoping for my VPS to get migrated. Hopefully they'll send a notice beforehand.
@rubenmdh said:
Good news for you guys with VPS within FFM datacenter! Newer CPU models are coming soon. Really hoping for my VPS to get migrated. Hopefully they'll send a notice beforehand.
Fingers crossed. However, I'd assume the vps with no fixed cpu model (= former lxc) will be upgraded first as kvm vps were separated in standard/premium cpu with fixed models. Unfortunately, my lxc is in Finland and my KVM in Germany That said, they said lxc wil be migrated to kvm, soo.. is it time to buy cheap lxc before they remove it from the store and only offer (more expensive) kvm?
They also seem to have ditched aurologic completely in Eygelshoven. Subnets are now in AS206996 with PletX as upstream (another SkyLink wrapper basically)
Some subnets remain in aurologic (AS30823) tho, including Finland.
On a side note, they've finally added the option for users to select if they want ballooning or not in their VMs (what technically was against their ToS previously, as I was told in tickets)
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Agree. Although my LXC Finland has been down for 2 days now due to affected host system. That said, nothing crucial on it, so sitting it out. I also thought LXC performed better (and might get hw upgrades, where kvm won't).
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Day 3 and Finland ist still unreachable. In the ZAP control panel I can't access it and it's marked as affected by an ongoing issue. That said Hetrixtool has been showing it "up" the whole time, it's just not reachable. Luckily, I'm only running non critical stuff on it.
Live Status: https://status.zap-hosting.com/lookup/d8633cce-d8fd-4967-a780-1cf3415b0891
Anyone else affected on Helsinki? Probably they don't have so many nodes there, which is why all of FL instances took a hit I'd assume:
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
LXC Helsinki here, all up and running
https://dash.zgato.dev/server/104
Good to see that your host node seems to be up. My vps also shows online on Hetrix, but really isn't reachable. CPU spikes also seem really high considering my light-weight (normal) usage (compare to 30 days stats). https://hetrixtools.com/report/uptime/f409b9c69d3f363d8ef67455d5e6d4bc/
Can't access it via the ZAP panel either:
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
My LXC is in Helsinki, haven't had any issues with it that I noticed.
(Weirdly enough, yabs think it's in Chicago though, so...who knows? lol)
Seems like I'm on that one odd node lol
About Chicago: probably not updated ip database. Mine used to show Pakistan iirc
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Doing my usual inventory check I noticed new listings with upgraded Gen 9 ProLiants featuring V4 Xeons appeared on their dedicated servers page, including:
Very interesting offer, considering the 2640v4 almost doubles the performance of my actual 2640v2. (12481 points vs 7590 points on CPU Benchmark.
They also list 512GB SSD capacities which makes me believe they might be NVMe drives. (Another nice upgrade over their crappy MX500/BX500 SATA SSDs)
It also seems to be available for lifetime servers
I will resist myself... I will resist...
My Finland LXC has been down for 2 weeks now lol. Support told me via ticket that moving LXC during downtime is not possible, albeit I should've probably clarified I'd be okay with data being wiped and just redployment on another hostnode to make use of the vps. There was nothing crucial on it, I couldn't launch in 15 mins anyway. That said, support agent told me that apparently the disks were close to failing and they shipped new disks there, but due to remote hands not responding that fast (in Germany they have own staff in DCs and are more flexible) everything's taking longer. Anyway, asked support again now if they can just redploy with data loss (in theory).
The dedis are looking good. If I get more VPS, I guess I'll opt for Germany with their own staff though :P
Btw, @rubenmdh what are you running on your dedis?
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Edit: Server has been redeployed woop woop
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Nothing too fancy, currently sharing it with a few friends to selfhost a few apps such as Vaultwarden, Piped, Shlink... plus a few personal websites, all running Proxmox. I used to hammer the CPU doing some AV1 transcodes (it worked surprisingly well) but that's on a hiatus right now.
I can confirm on site support within their FFM facility was quick during my disk replacement.
Thanks for the feedback! Cool stuff
Yeah, it makes sense that replacements are faster with their own staff.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Seems like they're converting their LXC line into KVM now
https://x.com/zaphosting/status/1923419819673550932
@Ympker is yours LXC?
My Finland VPS is LXC, my Germany "Rootserver" is KVM. Seems like my LXC now also becomes KVM
Nice upgrade. I wonder how that will reflect the pricing though. Will the "cheaper" former lxc-line just disappear? If not, what will be the difference between vServer and Rootserver if both are KVM?
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
I'd say they will probably merge both. There is no real difference now, other than marketing gimmicks imo.
It's not like a lot has changed anyways, their Windows and FreeBSD VPS were already using KVM, of course. So it was just a matter of time.
I wonder if anything happened to 'force' them to make the move to full KVM.
That's also my guess, but that would also mean that the (significantly cheaper) LXC product will disappear altogether with lifetime vps now starting at 150€ish instead of at 79€ish (LXC).
Probably they noticed KVM is the way to go. Might also mean we always get slower os updates now, because LXC supported Ubuntu 22/24 months ahead of KVM which was still at 20.04 EOL. However, you can use netboot to install latest with kvm
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Or they also probably realized they can share resources just like they did with LXC, since ballooning is enabled by default on all Root Servers (set to less than half of your purchased RAM
) and CPU resources the same way too.
Which is misleading, considering their email explicitly implies "dedicated resources":
But I guess they could always say: "You are entitled to use all your allocated resources. We are just provisioning them elsewhere while you are not using them."
I have a full ticket with them about that, and that they ended up disabling ballooning for me.
These are some quick screenshots (can post it fully, I don't mind, will probably end up making a thread because they got me super fucking mad)
That's just a bunch of bullshit (Proxmox enables ballooning by default, yeah, but the minimum RAM is always set to the same RAM you set to the VM, so effectively, 0 balloons of RAM can be made
)
Preventing the load of the balloon module on the kernel is also forbidden for what it seems (although they messed up a few times in the ticket and some of their staff told me no, and some of them told me yes)
So effectively, all of their VMs have shared resources (except Storage), including RAM, which is just insane. I have never seen a provider ballooning RAM between VMs in my life, except probably the obvious Contabo-like ones
Hello, just another quick update. Apart from the already announced v4 CPU models made available like a month ago:
New ones have appeared:
Looks like they are finally getting Ryzen chips:
https://zap-hosting.com/en/blog/2025/07/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-is-coming-to-zap/
Right now only announced for game servers and VPS. Availability on lifetime services is unknown.
It's interesting they have upgraded from an almost 10yo platform to a fairly recent and powerful one, Ryzen 9000, that is. If they release a lifetime dedi with a Ryzen chip, you bet I will grab it asap and YABS it
Ryzen chips are gonna be nice
Hopefully they'll make it to Lifetime deals. How many lifetime dedis do you have with them again? 
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
but there is no info on the type of cpu you will get when ordering LTDs, or is there?
For KVM VPS it shows the cpu model during order process (you can choose standard or "premium" cpu), for lxc not. Someone wrote they were gonna also move lxc to kvm, so maybe we'll soon have cpu info for all.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
I have two.
2640v2 / 64GB / 500 GB SSD
2680v2 / 128GB / 2x 500 GB SSD <-- this one with extra IPv4
They have been working really well and are remarkably stable. I can't complain other than the lack of IPv6.
Sounds great
Thanks for the update!
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Good news for you guys with VPS within FFM datacenter! Newer CPU models are coming soon. Really hoping for my VPS to get migrated. Hopefully they'll send a notice beforehand.
Fingers crossed. However, I'd assume the vps with no fixed cpu model (= former lxc) will be upgraded first as kvm vps were separated in standard/premium cpu with fixed models. Unfortunately, my lxc is in Finland and my KVM in Germany
That said, they said lxc wil be migrated to kvm, soo.. is it time to buy cheap lxc before they remove it from the store and only offer (more expensive) kvm?
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
They also seem to have ditched aurologic completely in Eygelshoven. Subnets are now in AS206996 with PletX as upstream (another SkyLink wrapper basically)
Some subnets remain in aurologic (AS30823) tho, including Finland.
On a side note, they've finally added the option for users to select if they want ballooning or not in their VMs (what technically was against their ToS previously, as I was told in tickets)
Just received this, check your emails people
