The flood of new members, little help please?

AnthonySmith

I have temporarily lowered the thresholds to 5 upvotes for new membership or -5 for removal.

I have also set it so that anyone with +7 karma can up/downvote new members.

We have had a flood due to the crazy offer from @ShockHosting Thanks, its a good problem to have I suppose.

Ultimately, the offer will not be seen by anyone in the "New members" group; this is deliberate to make sure we don't just get a ton of offer/telegram bots so the new member gate is doing its job, it is just not ideal at this scale right now.

While I figure something else out, and while these new members curse themselves for ignoring LES and posting anime memes on LET if you could help out by up/down voting those that you think are human in the new members section, that would be appreciated.

If we don't have the manpower or willpower to blast through these, I will have to solo it with admin powers, which I will do later tonight if any are still hovering in no man's land.

I will appreciate this by giving hosts LES ad revenue to post more of these offers or similar ones or underwriting other services so we get more offers like this (This one was totally on Shock Hosting, though)

Thanks!

AnthonySmith

You now also get/earn a karma point for every post you up/down vote in the new members section, while that post is active and requiring a decision; votes after will not give you a karma point.

yoursunny

@AnthonySmith said:
You now also get/earn a karma point for every post you up/down vote in the new members section, while that post is active and requiring a decision; votes after will not give you a karma point.

If we place the 1st upvote on a new member and then undo the upvote, does the free karma get revoked upon undoing?

If we place the 7th upvote to approve a new member, and then undo the upvote, the new member stays approved.
Does the free karma get revoked upon undoing?

AnthonySmith

sorry sorry, NOW you get the extra karma point (did not flush cache).

@yoursunny said: If we place the 1st upvote on a new member and then undo the upvote, does the free karma get revoked upon undoing?

No it does not get revoked but you dont get more by voting again, so if you want to be unhelpful for a few days and get a few extra points to spend on flan badges... go for it.

@yoursunny said: If we place the 7th upvote to approve a new member, and then undo the upvote, the new member stays approved.

they stay a member, there are no takesies backsies once promoted.

@yoursunny said: Does the free karma get revoked upon undoing?

No.

Thanks for your invaluable input as always.

Docker_dude

I don't think all of them are bots, how ever I noticed this to there are many new members waiting for aproval

Chievo

@AnthonySmith send them to les discord les bots?

davide

You could throttle the requests per minute for users pending approval if botting or server performance is the concern, and give them full access under quota.

ascicode

@Docker_dude said:
I don't think all of them are bots, how ever I noticed this to there are many new members waiting for aproval

Every 2 minutes or in same minute is mostly a bot, unless the server had hiccups.

barbaros

Give them all new status called MJJ, at least they will be recognizable out in public.

phart

I need 3 more karma before I can farm karma from downvoting bots

Jab

Just downvote everyone typing proper sentences. With dots. Capital letters, commas and other things. You know, no one in China types like that.
And whenever you see 'enthusiasts' or developer. So many of those these days it's amazing.

nullnothere

I'm really easy to fool it seems. I've now gotten a little smarter. But it looks like I'm still no match for AI and their ilk.

Docker_dude

@phart said:
I need 3 more karma before I can farm karma from downvoting bots

I need only 1, got something from the karma store

Docker_dude

We need also to consider that there are some of them using AI just for translation, just saying

nullnothere

If the new signups are from Nodeseek, is there a way to verify/vet or otherwise get some details about their Nodeseek username and will that help promote membership here (in terms of good contributors)?

Any regular LES+Nodeseek users have ideas/thoughts on how to leverage some good Karma from NS as a useful filter for membership here?

terrorgen

@Docker_dude said:
We need also to consider that there are some of them using AI just for translation, just saying

Human makes mistakes and that is okay.

Unless your upbringing told you to never make mistakes and you get out of your way to not make mistakes.

MichaelCee

Finding it a little hard to differentiate who's using AI to translate and who is AI. The whole "I discovered LowEndSpirit whilst searching online for ..." is a bit sus but could also be the equivalent of somebody trying to fluff their CV (resume) up

davide

Today I re-read I bash script that I last touched 10 years ago and it looked 100% LLM fluff.

They must have learned from somewhere :(

sumo

@Jab said:
Just downvote everyone typing proper sentences. With dots. Capital letters, commas and other things.

Forget the lessons from elementary school?

imok

What’s the deal with those "700" responses?

sumo

@AnthonySmith said:
I have temporarily lowered the thresholds to 5 upvotes for new membership or -5 for removal.

I have also set it so that anyone with +7 karma can up/downvote new members.

We have had a flood due to the crazy offer from @ShockHosting Thanks, its a good problem to have I suppose.

Ultimately, the offer will not be seen by anyone in the "New members" group; this is deliberate to make sure we don't just get a ton of offer/telegram bots so the new member gate is doing its job, it is just not ideal at this scale right now.

While I figure something else out, and while these new members curse themselves for ignoring LES and posting anime memes on LET if you could help out by up/down voting those that you think are human in the new members section, that would be appreciated.

If we don't have the manpower or willpower to blast through these, I will have to solo it with admin powers, which I will do later tonight if any are still hovering in no man's land.

I will appreciate this by giving hosts LES ad revenue to post more of these offers or similar ones or underwriting other services so we get more offers like this (This one was totally on Shock Hosting, though)

Thanks!

Will give it a go.

Thanks for pointing out the shockhosting deal, let's see if I can get one via DM.

curiouswanderer

Should we be clearer on the purpose of the new member approval process? I thought it was just about preventing bots. Some of those posts feel completely human to me but they got voted out. My guess is that people just don't like users from NodeSeek in general due to potential abusive behaviors from quite a few of them. I totally get it, I hate that too, but that is like guilty until proven innocent and I think it's just very hard to judge that.

We already have the system to vote someone down when they behave like asshole, maybe we should stick with that instead of assuming they would cause trouble?