@VirMach said:
We already basically warned Mason and he said they should be able to handle it or something to that effect. Perhaps it'll end up being a terrible mistake but at least I wasn't going to just do that and then not warn him at all.
Even at this point while you are commenting, I am aware of a few bots that are crawling your comments and forward to their Telegram channel in near real-time.
Anyway, good luck and looking forward to your BF show! Let me know if you need any help from me, I would try my best to help if it is within my capabilities.
@foitin said: If you truly believe you're innocent, prove it in your ticket instead of here. No one that I know of including me has been suspended.
To be honest, I got one of those notification from VirMach a few weeks ago about service suspension.
Dear ******
This is a notification that your service has now been suspended.
The details of this suspension are below:
Product/Service: STORAGE-2T
Domain: *********-VM
Amount: $120.00 USD
Due Date: 09/15/2024
Suspension Reason: Bandwidth Overusage
Your service was suspended due to using up the bandwidth for this month
The server comes with 20TB/M and I had used less than 1TB in 10 days.
Didn't worry me as I fiugered it was some kind of system error.
Yeah might be error, definitely reach out to us to double check the amount. Priority ticket is OK to use in this case.
It wasn't actually suspended, I logged in to the server few minutes after that and all was fine. It's been a month since that mail so I'm sure it was an error. I love my storage server.
Okay so we've replied this to some of the abuse appeals, it means they're been found to have abuse cases linked to previous flagging(s) in the past in addition to most recent, and will take longer to investigate properly. For the others I'm proceeding for free.
Account is linked to several issues, not just recently. If you'd like us to investigate further we'd need to first bill you $25 fee as it will take a long time to look into, and it'll be refunded if you're found to not break ToS such as multi-account/using an account not originally yours and not linked to other abuse. We're waiving fee normally in this case so it's optional but I don't see this proceeding further otherwise since it's linked to a history of multiple abuse cases.
Others were immediately rejected if they had even more cases or linked directly to @infplus
Where data was requested, we offered to provide a backup for free.
The remaining 33~ appeals will be looked into for free (and we already handled others before.)
@foitin said: If you truly believe you're innocent, prove it in your ticket instead of here. No one that I know of including me has been suspended.
To be honest, I got one of those notification from VirMach a few weeks ago about service suspension.
Dear ******
This is a notification that your service has now been suspended.
The details of this suspension are below:
Product/Service: STORAGE-2T
Domain: *********-VM
Amount: $120.00 USD
Due Date: 09/15/2024
Suspension Reason: Bandwidth Overusage
Your service was suspended due to using up the bandwidth for this month
The server comes with 20TB/M and I had used less than 1TB in 10 days.
Didn't worry me as I fiugered it was some kind of system error.
Yeah might be error, definitely reach out to us to double check the amount. Priority ticket is OK to use in this case.
It wasn't actually suspended, I logged in to the server few minutes after that and all was fine. It's been a month since that mail so I'm sure it was an error. I love my storage server.
Ohhhh I see what happened then, you probably got automated bandwidth is running out message and we auto fixed it before it became an issue then. Okay cool.
Honestly I'm glad it ended up this way because it just means for the most part he's the one who is affected and since he wasn't interested in actually reducing all the harm he directly caused it's still less messy and soon people will find out maybe not to do business with him, but it also seems like he has multiple identities so it may be difficult for people to figure out which specific scalper they're dealing with I guess.
This has been offered to anyone remaining who has a service type that can easily be re-generated:
Hello, we've investigated this further and in this case, we can offer the following resolution:
* $25 suspension fee waived
* Service regenerated in closest location with no setup fee (if it's in Tokyo, it'll be Los Angeles) on a new account
* Remaining duration of service added for free to the new service.
* Current service on this account terminated immediately.
Register for a new account and provide email here if you are interested in proceeding. Do not use the same IP to register the other account or same email. Name/address can be same, no problem.
If you do not want to take the above offer, let me know and we'll continue investigating instead, but it will not be offered again once rejected. Keep in mind the above offer means you must make a payment for the same price/term for 1 or 2 years of service, whichever it is currently, and then additional amount owed is added on top of that (so if you have a biennial server for $X dollars and have X months left, you are billed $X dollars, get biennial +2 years from now, and then X months added. If you have annual, then you get +1 years for $X dollars and X months added.)
This excludes BF flash deals, it has to be a package that can quickly be regenerated and exists as its own specific plan already.
Probably better to not tip the idiots off too much.
It's a super simple query, I could just reveal it now but I don't want him to try to undo it because it'll just annoy me, it won't really make it harder to catch him later. There's plenty of rookie mistakes he'll continue to make...
@VirMach said:
This has been offered to anyone remaining who has a service type that can easily be re-generated:
Hello, we've investigated this further and in this case, we can offer the following resolution:
>
> * $25 suspension fee waived
> * Service regenerated in closest location with no setup fee (if it's in Tokyo, it'll be Los Angeles) on a new account
> * Remaining duration of service added for free to the new service.
> * Current service on this account terminated immediately.
>
> Register for a new account and provide email here if you are interested in proceeding. Do not use the same IP to register the other account or same email. Name/address can be same, no problem.
>
> If you do not want to take the above offer, let me know and we'll continue investigating instead, but it will not be offered again once rejected. Keep in mind the above offer means you must make a payment for the same price/term for 1 or 2 years of service, whichever it is currently, and then additional amount owed is added on top of that (so if you have a biennial server for $X dollars and have X months left, you are billed $X dollars, get biennial +2 years from now, and then X months added. If you have annual, then you get +1 years for $X dollars and X months added.)
This excludes BF flash deals, it has to be a package that can quickly be regenerated and exists as its own specific plan already.
@VirMach said: It's a super obvious pattern and used in previous BF sniping/automation for account creations.
Understand why you suspended these vps.Most of them should have used the virmach.me account registration script that you used to partner with.So they look like one.But it's likely not a person's account.
@VirMach said: It's a super obvious pattern and used in previous BF sniping/automation for account creations.
Understand why you suspended these vps.Most of them should have used the virmach.me account registration script that you used to partner with.So they look like one.But it's likely not a person's account.
We NEVER partnered with them. This is why it's important to stop trusting these people who make false claims that are not verified by us at all.
They're also doing their best to tell people we're just randomly charging $25 fees and not suspending when it couldn't be further from the truth.
I'll contact our lawyer to see if we can send a trademark infringement request since they're doing that and making those claims and have our logo and trademark in their site, but nothing good will really come of that outside of everyone spinning it to make us sound like we're attacking some poor web developer that was trying to build something cool.
I've heard enough about it to at least ban their affiliate account though, let me know if anyone was affected by them so I can link it together.
Probably better to not tip the idiots off too much.
It's a super simple query, I could just reveal it now but I don't want him to try to undo it because it'll just annoy me, it won't really make it harder to catch him later. There's plenty of rookie mistakes he'll continue to make...
Please check #801691, it closes automatically.
Tell me what I need to do
Thank you
Probably better to not tip the idiots off too much.
It's a super simple query, I could just reveal it now but I don't want him to try to undo it because it'll just annoy me, it won't really make it harder to catch him later. There's plenty of rookie mistakes he'll continue to make...
Please check #801691, it closes automatically.
Tell me what I need to do
Thank you
It was already checked and closed for a reason. Your account is directly related to @infplus in one way or another, if you mentioned this in the past and I said something else to you then quote your comment and my comment and I'll try to proceed accordingly instead. Looks like you or whoever in control at the time also clearly changed account information twice (to try to make it less obvious maybe but it just made it more obvious.)
Edit: shared info with infplus or "virmach.me" on 07/25/2022.
@VirMach said:
Edit: shared info with infplus or "virmach.me" on 07/25/2022.
Found affiliate related to this and closed although it seems like they were already flagged and are using multiple affiliate accounts already flagged. It means your account @aiexo is owned by this site that was used or whoever self-referred so another problem added to it.
This has been offered to 17 people remaining appeals:
We can offer pro-rated credits for remaining duration of service on a new account that is yours, and terminate the service on this account. Let me know if you're interested, and sign up for a new account with your own details, and do not share IP address with this account. Provide the email here.
I was going to investigate further but obviously they just all keep leading back to the same issue. If anyone rejects it we'll look for like a 3rd or 4th time and see if it's maybe a false positive but I doubt it.
@VirMach said:
I can also confirm @infplus appears to be responsible in sniping the majority of the $8.88/8GB RAM deals in 2021 BF.
Maybe not majority but good amount at least. Which also means he's the same person we were tracking already last time. Full circle.
I signed up for my first virmach account in March. However, that I did not participate in any vendor activities during Black Friday last year.
Your account is just linked to the others in some other way then, maybe you used same unauthorized site to sign up for your accounts. In any case it leads into the other issue and it's still not allowed.
There's like several issues at once and you're linked to it so whatever you say won't change that.
It doesn't undo ToS breach, or abuse, or resale, or anything else that also happened.
@VirMach said: That site should not be registering for people, can you show me that feature? It just should be linking to our site.
There are many aff sites. Many of them share the script for registering an account at hostloc.The accounts registered using these will be very similar.
Why the fuck you need a script to register an account? It's one time process that takes like 1 minute. Why would you use some 3rd party scripts and share yours potentially sensitive data (e-mail, password, name, what you ordering) at all?
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
> who we'll give a final chance to clear out of someone else's account and set up their own if they desire. Set up their own as in a single account using a clean IP or going back to their original account they fully own and contacting us to get it sorted.
Who have purchased an account from scalpers need to greate a ticket to you to description, and then transfer the VPS to an account created by a clean IP?
@VirMach A few days ago, I asked you how to handle it, but you may have overlooked the information.
@infplus said:
I signed up for my first virmach account in March. However, that I did not participate in any vendor activities during Black Friday last year.
Hey @infplus thanks for all the 8.88 donations you made to next BlackFriday :-)
> who we'll give a final chance to clear out of someone else's account and set up their own if they desire. Set up their own as in a single account using a clean IP or going back to their original account they fully own and contacting us to get it sorted.
Who have purchased an account from scalpers need to greate a ticket to you to description, and then transfer the VPS to an account created by a clean IP?
@VirMach A few days ago, I asked you how to handle it, but you may have overlooked the information.
And what should I do now?
Thank you
Nothing to do really, it's just rejected right? I'm just saying if you're surprised then show me what you said or I said that made the resolution appear to be different.
@FrankZ said: @DanSummer - nice yabs, is that storage VM in the NYC location ?
Yes, NYC Metro, NJ. The VPS server is a lot better than the OVH dedicated server (SYS-1-SAT-32) I'm replacing it with.
Guess the location is not as popular as Japan (hope it stays that way).
These Chinese people are registered through these scripts for anonymity.Their information must be random.
You can still use our site with a VPN that you own and there's plenty of sites that allow purchase of a VPN via cryptocurrency like Monero without registration information. You can still anonymize your data with certain payment methods with us. That doesn't lead to problems.
@edenten said: @VirMach said: Don't reply to migration request, I closed that, make a new ticket.
It's not related to migration request.
This ticket has been marked as "rejected" by a member of our staff.
Tticket #223929
Can you help me to check it.I contacted again as you said.
Flagged as already verified to breach ToS. Flagged as linked to an account registered with an unauthorized script or infplus. Flagged as multiple tickets spammed for appeal. Looks like there's 3 of them so far?
@VirMach said:
If we do flash deals for Black Friday by the way it'll be on a thread here it won't be the automated script, that got abused to the max by these scalpers. We'll send out an announcement we've been planning that it'll be manual flash or flash with coupons shared here only on an exclusive thread. Of course scalpers can still come here too, but at least it'll be posted around the same time and less chance they'll be able to scrape it if we do it strategically.
As far as I like deals, I am rather concerned about the sustainability of VirMach.
What I would expect next is someone will build a bot to crawl LES to obtain the latest deals. As I have nearly full access on OGF, I can see this happening a lot on OGF that I have to manually block those aggressive crawlers since it slowed down Vanilla a lot.
We already basically warned Mason and he said they should be able to handle it or something to that effect. Perhaps it'll end up being a terrible mistake but at least I wasn't going to just do that and then not warn him at all.
Can't promise it'll be smooth, but it'll be a fun ride
@VirMach said: You can still use our site with a VPN that you own
I mean they may also use the same vpn.
Unfortunate, but we also try to check these past just one shared VPN. Still means you clearly just get linked together in some way and then when other abuse and issues start occurring of course possible you get bundled together.
If this was a "China" widespread issue then there'd be tens of thousands of accounts banned not just 200.
So how did the other 98-99% of people do just fine?
@Mason said:
I wonder if this many people complained to Google when they started banning the fake edu accounts on eBay.
Google doesn't exactly make it easy to contact them and have AI that handle it instead. But my answer is probably yes, just a human didn't have to deal with it.
@Mason said:
I wonder if this many people complained to Google when they started banning the fake edu accounts on eBay.
Google doesn't exactly make it easy to contact them and have AI that handle it instead. But my answer is probably yes, just a human didn't have to deal with it.
@VirMach said:
Edit: shared info with infplus or "virmach.me" on 07/25/2022.
Found affiliate related to this and closed although it seems like they were already flagged and are using multiple affiliate accounts already flagged. It means your account @aiexo is owned by this site that was used or whoever self-referred so another problem added to it.
It mean the VPS is irretrievable?
I bought the VPS from someone last week, I can the history if needed.
@VirMach said:
Edit: shared info with infplus or "virmach.me" on 07/25/2022.
Found affiliate related to this and closed although it seems like they were already flagged and are using multiple affiliate accounts already flagged. It means your account @aiexo is owned by this site that was used or whoever self-referred so another problem added to it.
It mean the VPS is irretrievable?
I bought the VPS from someone last week, I can the history if needed.
Quote what I said that made you think the outcome would be different for you specifically. If you bought VPS from someone else it doesn't seem like you stated that in your appeal, or did you state it here? Show me relevant info I've asked like 3 times now or I can't help you.
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@infplus what a cunt!
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
oh is that right?
@infplus bloody cunt
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
It wasn't actually suspended, I logged in to the server few minutes after that and all was fine. It's been a month since that mail so I'm sure it was an error. I love my storage server.
Okay so we've replied this to some of the abuse appeals, it means they're been found to have abuse cases linked to previous flagging(s) in the past in addition to most recent, and will take longer to investigate properly. For the others I'm proceeding for free.
Others were immediately rejected if they had even more cases or linked directly to @infplus
Where data was requested, we offered to provide a backup for free.
The remaining 33~ appeals will be looked into for free (and we already handled others before.)
Ohhhh I see what happened then, you probably got automated bandwidth is running out message and we auto fixed it before it became an issue then. Okay cool.
Honestly I'm glad it ended up this way because it just means for the most part he's the one who is affected and since he wasn't interested in actually reducing all the harm he directly caused it's still less messy and soon people will find out maybe not to do business with him, but it also seems like he has multiple identities so it may be difficult for people to figure out which specific scalper they're dealing with I guess.
@DanSummer - nice yabs, is that storage VM in the NYC location ?
How do I need to open the ticket? It all shows rejected. What do I need to provide?
This has been offered to anyone remaining who has a service type that can easily be re-generated:
This excludes BF flash deals, it has to be a package that can quickly be regenerated and exists as its own specific plan already.
Probably better to not tip the idiots off too much.
It's a super simple query, I could just reveal it now but I don't want him to try to undo it because it'll just annoy me, it won't really make it harder to catch him later. There's plenty of rookie mistakes he'll continue to make...
This is going really well so far:
Understand why you suspended these vps.Most of them should have used the virmach.me account registration script that you used to partner with.So they look like one.But it's likely not a person's account.
Mind-boggling why this guy wouldn't take the deal but whatever.
We NEVER partnered with them. This is why it's important to stop trusting these people who make false claims that are not verified by us at all.
They're also doing their best to tell people we're just randomly charging $25 fees and not suspending when it couldn't be further from the truth.
I'll contact our lawyer to see if we can send a trademark infringement request since they're doing that and making those claims and have our logo and trademark in their site, but nothing good will really come of that outside of everyone spinning it to make us sound like we're attacking some poor web developer that was trying to build something cool.
I've heard enough about it to at least ban their affiliate account though, let me know if anyone was affected by them so I can link it together.
Please check #801691, it closes automatically.
Tell me what I need to do
Thank you
It was already checked and closed for a reason. Your account is directly related to @infplus in one way or another, if you mentioned this in the past and I said something else to you then quote your comment and my comment and I'll try to proceed accordingly instead. Looks like you or whoever in control at the time also clearly changed account information twice (to try to make it less obvious maybe but it just made it more obvious.)
Edit: shared info with infplus or "virmach.me" on 07/25/2022.
My re-made the ticket also shows rejected. Please tell me how to do it.
My migration tickets are all closed. Will the VPS still migrate?
I heard there are some 8.88$ VPSes back in stock
I would assume those people also used the referral program for the VPSes they bought on alt accounts?
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
Found affiliate related to this and closed although it seems like they were already flagged and are using multiple affiliate accounts already flagged. It means your account @aiexo is owned by this site that was used or whoever self-referred so another problem added to it.
Like virmach.app, they say it's in your allowlist.Many are accounts registered through these sites.
Yo, when the page will be ready?
https://virmach.com/black-friday-cyber-monday/
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This has been offered to 17 people remaining appeals:
I was going to investigate further but obviously they just all keep leading back to the same issue. If anyone rejects it we'll look for like a 3rd or 4th time and see if it's maybe a false positive but I doubt it.
I signed up for my first virmach account in March. However, that I did not participate in any vendor activities during Black Friday last year.
We'll be using https://vps.blackfriday most likely instead, that will redirect to it. Site isn't set up yet.
That site should not be registering for people, can you show me that feature? It just should be linking to our site.
Your account is just linked to the others in some other way then, maybe you used same unauthorized site to sign up for your accounts. In any case it leads into the other issue and it's still not allowed.
There's like several issues at once and you're linked to it so whatever you say won't change that.
It doesn't undo ToS breach, or abuse, or resale, or anything else that also happened.
There are many aff sites. Many of them share the script for registering an account at hostloc.The accounts registered using these will be very similar.
Why the fuck you need a script to register an account? It's one time process that takes like 1 minute. Why would you use some 3rd party scripts and share yours potentially sensitive data (e-mail, password, name, what you ordering) at all?
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
@VirMach A few days ago, I asked you how to handle it, but you may have overlooked the information.
And what should I do now?
Thank you
You should appeal like everyone else via ticket system and wait for things that will show up there?
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
Hey @infplus thanks for all the 8.88 donations you made to next BlackFriday :-)
Nothing to do really, it's just rejected right? I'm just saying if you're surprised then show me what you said or I said that made the resolution appear to be different.
These Chinese people are registered through these scripts for anonymity.Their information must be random.
You didn't see my feedback: ticket closes automatically.
Yes, NYC Metro, NJ. The VPS server is a lot better than the OVH dedicated server (SYS-1-SAT-32) I'm replacing it with.
Guess the location is not as popular as Japan (hope it stays that way).
SYS-1-SAT-32
You can still use our site with a VPN that you own and there's plenty of sites that allow purchase of a VPN via cryptocurrency like Monero without registration information. You can still anonymize your data with certain payment methods with us. That doesn't lead to problems.
And you apparently didn't see mine?
Can you help me to check it.I contacted again as you said.
I kind of didn't understand what you said.
Flagged as already verified to breach ToS. Flagged as linked to an account registered with an unauthorized script or infplus. Flagged as multiple tickets spammed for appeal. Looks like there's 3 of them so far?
Two or more times it's been linked to multiple accounts, and not just minor but major with other accounts registered also abusing.
I mean they may also use the same vpn.
Can't promise it'll be smooth, but it'll be a fun ride
yabs daddy
Unfortunate, but we also try to check these past just one shared VPN. Still means you clearly just get linked together in some way and then when other abuse and issues start occurring of course possible you get bundled together.
If this was a "China" widespread issue then there'd be tens of thousands of accounts banned not just 200.
So how did the other 98-99% of people do just fine?
I wonder if this many people complained to Google when they started banning the fake edu accounts bought on eBay.
yabs daddy
Google doesn't exactly make it easy to contact them and have AI that handle it instead. But my answer is probably yes, just a human didn't have to deal with it.
VirBot, where are you?
yabs daddy
It mean the VPS is irretrievable?
I bought the VPS from someone last week, I can the history if needed.
Quote what I said that made you think the outcome would be different for you specifically. If you bought VPS from someone else it doesn't seem like you stated that in your appeal, or did you state it here? Show me relevant info I've asked like 3 times now or I can't help you.