[2022] ★ VirMach ★ RYZEN ★ NVMe ★★ The Epic Sales Offer Thread ★★

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  • @Mumbly said:

    @Franzkafka said: plz check my ticket, thank you.

    We thought you left already.

    Soon,I am pretty sure.

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  • @Princeton said: This sound goods. I have placed an order using in house credit (which is refunded from a terminated server), but it's pending manual review in the ticket #215138. Do I need to submit anything for authorization?

    Nope, and yours looks okay. It'll be cleared, you just have to wait.

  • @Astro said: Dope! Is it provisioned quickly? Don't want to be another 'nag' on the list

    Right now? Assuming you pass auto fraud check yeah.

  • edited October 2022

    @Franzkafka said: @VirMach May be my last ticket.so please don't ignore it.

    If you want your info removed, go to your details and change it. If not allowed let me know. To remove email make a throwaway email, add it as a user, then create ticket to make it the primary user and remove the other user. Then use a VPN so your last IP that remains on the account isn't yours, and reply for us to terminate the server to leave no trace.

    (edit) even if you lived in EU for GDPR, we're a US company, and even then, if we wanted to honor that law, there's no requirement to allow someone to delete another person's account. It's not yours to delete. If someone shows up and proves it is theirs and they're really concerned, maybe we'll consider something. We don't even have an agent so we're already not GDPR compliant, feel free to reach out to the authorities for that instead of the IRS like someone else mentioned because we don't owe any taxes. We haven't exactly been rocking it in the profits department with everything going on (not the measly number of services suspended or boycott, just the whole buying a million dollars of equipment and getting allegedly screwed over by a company that shall not be named part.)

  • edited October 2022

    I'm trying to make a list of all that's left before we can do the sale, let me know if anything's left out.

    • All tickets (and presumably issues but we'll also clean up any remaining disk/provision issues)
    • Adding everyone's additional IPs (part of above)
    • rDNS requests (already halfway done, just setting it up on SVM)
    • Giving everyone IPv6 or at least adding a button where you can request it with priority
    • Shipping off Amsterdam storage (can't promise not getting stuck @ customs, last time it was quick. Ooh EU storage special?)
    • Fixing/migrating any remaining nodes (mainly LAXA014)
    • Wrapping up getting nodes stabilized (probably send out some extra parts per location, and servers)

    @VirMach said: Here, I'll promise one thing and make sure to remind me of it a week before BF: if the consensus is that we haven't gone everything stable & done, let me know and we'll definitely cancel the BF sale.

    Basically this, let me know what I should add to the list above. All feedback is welcome. And I'll consider the opinion of every person who has a VirMach account (their own) in good standing.

  • edited October 2022

    @VirMach said:

    please add --- provision those won the free 2SSD vps.

  • @Mumbly said:

    @Franzkafka said: plz check my ticket, thank you.

    We thought you left already.

    Wishful thinking apparently

  • @ehab said:

    @VirMach said:

    please add --- provision those won the free 2SSD vps.

    Literally no. Everyone who was actually keeping up with it and followed instructions in first batch got it, the second batch is such a mess. I promise it might come faster than your spin.

  • @VirMach said:
    I'm trying to make a list of all that's left before we can do the sale, let me know if anything's left out.

    • All tickets (and presumably issues but we'll also clean up any remaining disk/provision issues)
    • Adding everyone's additional IPs (part of above)
    • rDNS requests (already halfway done, just setting it up on SVM)
    • Giving everyone IPv6 or at least adding a button where you can request it with priority
    • Shipping off Amsterdam storage (can't promise not getting stuck @ customs, last time it was quick. Ooh EU storage special?)
    • Fixing/migrating any remaining nodes (mainly LAXA014)
    • Wrapping up getting nodes stabilized (probably send out some extra parts per location, and servers)

    @VirMach said: Here, I'll promise one thing and make sure to remind me of it a week before BF: if the consensus is that we haven't gone everything stable & done, let me know and we'll definitely cancel the BF sale.

    Basically this, let me know what I should add to the list above. All feedback is welcome. And I'll consider the opinion of every person who has a VirMach account (their own) in good standing.

    Prepare for some new servers for the sale.
    Don't sell too many in one time until all of them being stable.
    You can sell them out easy even not at BF.

  • @ehab said:

    @VirMach said:

    please add --- provision those won the free 2SSD vps.

    XPG drive

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  • @yoursunny said:

    what is that?

  • edited October 2022

    @yetopen said:

    @VirMach said: It's a super obvious pattern and used in previous BF sniping/automation for account creations.

    Understand why you suspended these vps.Most of them should have used the virmach.me account registration script that you used to partner with.So they look like one.But it's likely not a person's account.

    @VirMach said: There's one other pattern I'm going after which was most of @infplus accounts and manually going through those as well. It's a super obvious pattern and used in previous BF sniping/automation for account creations. I'll reveal the queries afterward but this is something we were looking into doing anyway since last BF.

    @willie said:

    @VirMach said: 'll reveal the queries afterward

    Probably better to not tip the idiots off too much.

    Okay so update on this, the account list is huge, just finished running the query. It's all literally the same exact lazy pattern and we already have the list so I can reveal it now. Most likely it's what @yetopen mentioned except as I've said we never partnered with those guys and every time we were asked we made it clear to say we're not aware of that and probably isn't a good idea to register accounts using a third party site. And that's just basically the very huge part of them just phishing details if they want, then the whole multi-account issue, and so on.

    So pattern is:

    3 alphanumeric first name, 3 alphanumeric last name, 7 alphanumeric company name (just... why?) and country randomized between either some or all of the "A" countries. Address is also license-platey.

    So yes we have a lot of weird license-plate name companies registered in American Samoa, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, and so on.

    884 accounts. Plus one guy in China that thought it was cool to also use the same exact pattern, I don't know why. Like whoever coded it has never heard of using a word list/file in their introductory computer science course.

    Unsure what to do with them, but less drastic than immediate suspension for any left over (unless linked to something else.)

    @yoursunny said:

    @ehab said:

    @VirMach said:

    please add --- provision those won the free 2SSD vps.

    XPG drive

    @nightcat said: Prepare for some new servers for the sale.
    Don't sell too many in one time until all of them being stable.
    You can sell them out easy even not at BF.

    Yep, sale will be set plans, set quantities at a time in batches. They'll get sold out, we have a day buffer where we clear out tickets, then restock. And yep, if we hurry up with the rest of the stuff the plan is to start early November and end around end of year.

    New servers already prepared, we're also putting pretty much all the money we get from the sale into more equipment and not pocketing the profits and have like a 1-2 year plan worked out (don't worry, includes keeping the power on.) This does NOT mean that we don't already have the servers for the sale, it's just bonus servers to replace the ones we fill.

    We'll have enough spaces to fill in about the same as we usually would sell during a BF sale already, plus even more space is opening up from people that don't renew (which is a significant amount per year.)

    Oh and Tokyo may be excluded until specific times and posted on thread instead. I'll try to do a little stock checker on main page so you don't have to click on everything.

  • edited October 2022

    Let's actually do a test run, I hope it doesn't count as us breaking a promise. 5 quantities each only to see if we can handle up to 20 of them and how long it takes so we can multiply it out. I'll specifically not check anything to make sure it's a complete disaster for the 20 people that do order to simulate everything going wrong. And also see how many go over the limit or anything shady that goes on, I'll be here to monitor it. I'm also interested how many order annual versus biennial, location breakdown, and how popular one plan is versus the other. (Oh no, what if no one buys it)

    https://virmach.com/special-offers

    Buy at your own risk. Price may go down and you might be sad that you bought it for more or it may go up.

    512 - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=212
    1G - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=211
    2G - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=210
    4G - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=203

  • @VirMach said: let me know if anything's left out

    Transfer button/provision.

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
    Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
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  • @AlwaysSkint said:

    @VirMach said: let me know if anything's left out

    Transfer button/provision.

    Transfer tickets will be done part of first bullet point for tickets. Transfer button being worked on but I don't know what'll go wrong, worst case scenario we have a basic version that just takes you to prefilled ticket.

  • @VirMach ; FYI, i was the very first who commented for the free SSD, just didn't pm you soon.

    i recall i did say i still want to kick your balls thou. Anyway , i will remind you on monthly bases.

  • edited October 2022

    It kind of bothers me how the links go 212 --> 211 --> 210 --> 203

    VirMach: destroys the entire DB due to OCD

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @ehab said: .. monthly bases basis.

    Same but I wasn't as mean as you. ;)

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
    Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
    It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).

  • Okay so far the order rate is 0 per 10 minutes. I think we'll be fine during the actual sale. 30 days * 24 hours * 6 x 10 minute chunks = 0 total sale volume.

  • @VirMach said:
    Let's actually do a test run, I hope it doesn't count as us breaking a promise. 5 quantities each only to see if we can handle up to 20 of them and how long it takes so we can multiply it out. I'll specifically not check anything to make sure it's a complete disaster for the 20 people that do order to simulate everything going wrong. And also see how many go over the limit or anything shady that goes on, I'll be here to monitor it. I'm also interested how many order annual versus biennial, location breakdown, and how popular one plan is versus the other. (Oh no, what if no one buys it)

    https://virmach.com/special-offers

    Buy at your own risk. Price may go down and you might be sad that you bought it for more or it may go up.

    512 - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=212
    1G - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=211
    2G - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=210
    4G - https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=203

    Oof. No port 80/443? I'm used to SMTP being closed off, but ruling out web services too is ... kinda limiting :)

  • @AlwaysSkint said:

    @ehab said: .. monthly bases basis.

    Same but I wasn't as mean as you. ;)

  • edited October 2022

    @ahnlak said:
    Oof. No port 80/443? I'm used to SMTP being closed off, but ruling out web services too is ... kinda limiting :)

    Maybe I should reword that or reconsider and make a more adamant decision. It might end up being $5 fee, might not happen, or might be just temporary block/unblock (edit) after X days or some other way.

    Our new IP provider isn't as strict so honestly it doesn't really serve a purpose anymore. I'll figure that out, for the 20 people that buy these you can assume it won't be blocked and we'll figure it out for the rest before the sale.

  • edited October 2022

    2022 Black Friday pricing guidelines for Ryzen/EPYC:

    • 1 GB: $12
    • 2 GB: $20
    • 4 GB: $36

    /special-offers is worse than this.

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  • @yoursunny said:
    2022 Black Friday pricing guidelines for Ryzen/EPYC:

    • 1 GB: $12
    • 2 GB: $20
    • 4 GB: $36

    EPYC can have way more RAM, weird to do price guideline using RAM amounts but okay I'll see what can be done. Will @yoursunny be solely responsible for our BF pricing AND IPv6 policy?

  • @VirMach said:

    @ahnlak said:
    Oof. No port 80/443? I'm used to SMTP being closed off, but ruling out web services too is ... kinda limiting :)

    Maybe I should reword that or reconsider and make a more adamant decision. It might end up being $5 fee, might not happen, or might be just temporary block/unblock (edit) after X days or some other way.

    Our new IP provider isn't as strict so honestly it doesn't really serve a purpose anymore. I'll figure that out, for the 20 people that buy these you can assume it won't be blocked and we'll figure it out for the rest before the sale.

    Do you get that much abuse from that? I (perhaps naively) assumed that web serving was a fairly prime VPS use.

    Also, which of your locations is least ... troubled, in case I was to grab an offer =)

  • @ahnlak said:
    Also, which of your locations is least ... troubled, in case I was to grab an offer =)

    Tokyo, we just got rid of a lot of abusers but if you don't want the $10 fee pick any location where Hivelocity may be possible, or xTom AMS.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    @yoursunny said:
    2022 Black Friday pricing guidelines for Ryzen/EPYC:

    • 1 GB: $12
    • 2 GB: $20
    • 4 GB: $36

    /special-offers is worse than this.

    US dollars is so strong now. can we have 2G at $18? lol

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @yoursunny said:
    /special-offers is worse than this.

    Annual prices will be skewed up no matter what because of the way we do calculations, biennial divided by two will be close. I have something planned which I can't disclose, in fact it's possible we move forward without disclosing it at all until the end of sale.

  • edited October 2022

    @cybertech said: US dollars is so strong now. can we have 2G at $18? lol

    It'd be fun if we can do a sale where foreign currency gets accepted at the rate it used to be last Black Friday plus exchange fee. Maybe I can set that somewhere.

    Ah it'd be too annoying to peg it to the buyer's country though.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    @VirMach said:

    @cybertech said: US dollars is so strong now. can we have 2G at $18? lol

    It'd be fun if we can do a sale where foreign currency gets accepted at the rate it used to be last Black Friday plus exchange fee. Maybe I can set that somewhere.

    Ah it'd be too annoying to peg it to the buyer's country though.

    you might incur losses though.

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @VirMach said:

    EPYC can have way more RAM, weird to do price guideline using RAM amounts but okay I'll see what can be done. Will @yoursunny be solely responsible for our BF pricing AND IPv6 policy?

    Really depends on the type of thing people are after, but for the stuff I personally am, I look probably at bandwidth, space, cores then ram. Anything with enough cores for what I want prob has enough ram.

    @ahnlak said:
    Also, which of your locations is least ... troubled, in case I was to grab an offer =)

    I've had good luck in most locations. Depends on if you have any needs or where you are located. I've got most of my Virmach stuff in NY, CHI, FRA, AMS. I'm not really confident in Flexential's ability to find their own head or ass so have moved out of the locations with them :p

  • @yoursunny keep in mind I still have to try to keep this promise although it could be argued that was only on OGF:

    This will be the lowest prices we will offer for Ryzen, over the next 12 months.

    Estimated if we take the higher number from like 768MB and lower from 1.5GB and so on... and half this thread's 4G number.

    1G: 15.21 - 16.46
    2G: 16.46 - 21.85
    4G: 35.00

  • edited October 2022

    any chance to let migration frankfurt to frankfurt :)) paid or free ...

  • @tridinebandim said:
    any chance to let migration frankfurt to frankfurt :)) paid or free ...

    I'm assuming you're trying to leave FFME004 and your account is not able to use the option?

  • @VirMach said: I'm assuming you're trying to leave FFME004 and your account is not able to use the option?

    right :))

  • @tridinebandim said:

    @VirMach said: I'm assuming you're trying to leave FFME004 and your account is not able to use the option?

    right :))

    DM me email and I'll see why you can't use it

  • sure, thanks.

  • edited October 2022

    Out of couriosity, how many FFME00x nodes are available out there?
    (in case someone order more VPSes at this location and want to have VPSes spreaded among nodes)

  • edited October 2022

    @Mumbly said:
    Out of couriosity, how many FFME00x nodes are available out there?

    7

    UPS fully basically stole two of our servers by not having customer service in the area that could help, and they moved it to like the warehouse where they auction off lost packages and wouldn't let anyone pay customs on it, and then power costs are also going to be insane so trying not to stack this location. Amsterdam will get more, Frankfurt might get a couple more but way less than Amsterdam.

    @Mumbly said:
    (in case someone order more VPSes at this location and want to have VPSes spreaded among nodes)

    6 then.

  • @Daevien said:

    @ahnlak said:
    Also, which of your locations is least ... troubled, in case I was to grab an offer =)

    I've had good luck in most locations. Depends on if you have any needs or where you are located. I've got most of my Virmach stuff in NY, CHI, FRA, AMS. I'm not really confident in Flexential's ability to find their own head or ass so have moved out of the locations with them

    Needs? I already have all the servers I require for my needs. This is more about the craving for ... let's call them spares. Although I should probably install something on my last idler before adding yet another one!

  • @VirMach said:

    @yoursunny said:
    2022 Black Friday pricing guidelines for Ryzen/EPYC:

    • 1 GB: $12
    • 2 GB: $20
    • 4 GB: $36

    EPYC can have way more RAM, weird to do price guideline using RAM amounts but okay I'll see what can be done.

    The software in push-ups delivery network uses RAM for caching.
    Hence, I compare non-storage servers with RAM amounts.

    I consider Ryzen to be an inferior version of EPYC.
    They have the same znver2 instruction set, but less reliable.

    @cybertech said:
    US dollars is so strong now. can we have 2G at $18? lol

    The cheapest 2 GB with high stock in 2021 BF was Naranja .tech for €18/year, which equals $20 at the time.

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  • @VirMach said: @yetopen said:

    » show previous quotes

    Understand why you suspended these vps.Most of them should have used the virmach.me account registration script that you used to partner with.So they look like one.But it's likely not a person's account.

    @VirMach said: There's one other pattern I'm going after which was most of @infplus accounts and manually going through those as well. It's a super obvious pattern and used in previous BF sniping/automation for account creations. I'll reveal the queries afterward but this is something we were looking into doing anyway since last BF.

    @willie said:

    » show previous quotes

    Probably better to not tip the idiots off too much.

    Okay so update on this, the account list is huge, just finished running the query. It's all literally the same exact lazy pattern and we already have the list so I can reveal it now. Most likely it's what @yetopen mentioned except as I've said we never partnered with those guys and every time we were asked we made it clear to say we're not aware of that and probably isn't a good idea to register accounts using a third party site. And that's just basically the very huge part of them just phishing details if they want, then the whole multi-account issue, and so on.

    So pattern is:

    3 alphanumeric first name, 3 alphanumeric last name, 7 alphanumeric company name (just... why?) and country randomized between either some or all of the "A" countries. Address is also license-platey.

    So yes we have a lot of weird license-plate name companies registered in American Samoa, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, and so on.

    884 accounts. Plus one guy in China that thought it was cool to also use the same exact pattern, I don't know why. Like whoever coded it has never heard of using a word list/file in their introductory computer science course.

    Unsure what to do with them, but less drastic than immediate suspension for any left over (unless linked to something else.)

    Certainly more than this format. Just one of the automatic default settings.

  • @yoursunny said:

    @VirMach said:

    @yoursunny said:
    2022 Black Friday pricing guidelines for Ryzen/EPYC:

    • 1 GB: $12
    • 2 GB: $20
    • 4 GB: $36

    EPYC can have way more RAM, weird to do price guideline using RAM amounts but okay I'll see what can be done.

    The software in push-ups delivery network uses RAM for caching.
    Hence, I compare non-storage servers with RAM amounts.

    I consider Ryzen to be an inferior version of EPYC.
    They have the same znver2 instruction set, but less reliable.

    Okay how about this then.

    We sell Epyc downgrade or "upgrade" migration specials (we check to see if you're visiting then we change the name to "upgrade" or code that into your account) that go on Ryzen but later get transferred to Epyc. Then we should be able to do your pricing of $12 / $20 / $36 but you might want to specify disk, core count, etc, otherwise we've been known to give 1GB disk and 1GB BW. I've been meaning to switch our KVM Lite over (not necessarily migrate people, just for new customers) to Epyc later on and this way we piss everyone off in the process who bought a special and create more work/headache for ourselves in 2023. That's the VirMach spirit.

  • edited October 2022

    Alternatively I'll just see if we can pro-rate refund to credit and adjust the prices down for people who got specials that were told it'd be the lowest price for 12 months.

    Darn I really liked my pricing though.


    (edit) So if we adjust prices down that's potentially be for existing OGF specials and I'll do regular vs earlybird x 2 for 2 year, with pro-rated discount and recurring price change but not for entire year for about half a year. Oh and basically excluding Tokyo since that one's going to have setup fee in new sale. (And probably excluding mutli-accountt/problematic blah blah.)

    384MB --> $11.11/YR to || $17.76/2YR
    [Placeholder 512M for $13.75/YR || $22/2YR]
    768MB --> $15.21/YR to $13.92/YR || $24.34/2YR stays same
    [Placeholder 1G for $12/YR || $22/2YR]
    1.5G --> $20.57/YR to $18.83/YR || $32.92 stays same
    [Placeholder 2G for $20/YR || $33/2YR]
    2.5G --> $27.31/YR to $25/YR || $43.70/2YR to $41.25/2YR

    Okay that doesn't really make sense with how the plans use to scale up in price and 512 remaining existing price, I'll keep thinking over it.

  • edited October 2022

    Darn I really liked my pricing though.

    Okay, that'd be:

    Ryzen Special 512: Stays $22/2YR or... something Maybe we just do 768 plan for $22/2YR
    Ryzen Special 1024: $12/YR or $22/2YR instead of $33/YR we might just not meet your requirement here
    Ryzen Special 2048: $20/YR or $33/2YR instead of $55/2YR - Disk & BW & Core lowered to current 1024 plan
    Ryzen Special 4096: $36/YR or $66/2YR instead of $88/2YR - Disk & BW & Core lowered to current 2048 plan or a little higher

    Except I kind of like the originals so maybe we just introduce another line anyway and complicate things for no reason and maybe we move the originally priced like to being a full "KVM" plan instead of "KVM Lite."

    And we either move old plans sold over to this new line since technically they get port 25/443/80 already and custom ISO requests (even though we've sucked at doing any of them until now) and they do technically have Eval Windows and the higher CPU limit technically since we haven't adjusted it down. Or we discount/credit them some.

    And for the "yoursunny" version plans we also do proper KVM Lite with the lower honor disk system that you add in chunks.

    Everyone happy with that or something like that?

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027

    @flips said: All I experienced on FFME004 was 43 minutes of downtime for my VPS. Should I/we expect more, or should it be stable again?

    VirMach is talking about one of the disks that decided to go bonkers - it took like 30 reboots to make it show back and downtime for people having VMs on that disk was like 2 days :P

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • @VirMach said:
    Alternatively I'll just see if we can pro-rate refund to credit and adjust the prices down for people who got specials that were told it'd be the lowest price for 12 months.

    I ordered a server a week ago (service ID: 676705) but it's put on the node TYOC039 and I cannot turn it on. I see you said that you will recreate the VM but it has been a week but it hasn't been created. Today I have just ordered the other special server and it's put on TYOC031 which is working now (although the network seems quite unstable, but I am diagnosing it).

    Considering service ID 676705 is not usable, can I get a refund? I am still not opening any tickets, if you can help me out here, it's good. Still fine if no, I will wait for it to be recreate.

  • $10 Tokyo setup fee. wow wow. So ridiculous

  • edited October 2022

    @VirMach said:

    @ahnlak said:
    Oof. No port 80/443? I'm used to SMTP being closed off, but ruling out web services too is ... kinda limiting :)

    Maybe I should reword that or reconsider and make a more adamant decision. It might end up being $5 fee, might not happen, or might be just temporary block/unblock (edit) after X days or some other way.

    Our new IP provider isn't as strict so honestly it doesn't really serve a purpose anymore. I'll figure that out, for the 20 people that buy these you can assume it won't be blocked and we'll figure it out for the rest before the sale.

    Refund 80/443 whitelist fee to account credit after 1 year without abuse

    Sounds good?

    Ontario Dildo Inspector

  • @nicai said:
    $10 Tokyo setup fee. wow wow. So ridiculous

    I'll consider changing it back to +$12/YR or whatever it was or removing Tokyo. Let me know if that helps.

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