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  • After a brief period online..

    ..TYOC036 is down again :cry:

    Contribute your idling VPS/dedi (link), Android (link) or iOS (link) devices to medical research

  • most loved name off course.

  • edited January 2023

    Should I join the complaining?maybe I shouldn't be needed, and the complaining people can go from the moon to the earth hand in hand(⊙o⊙)

  • @KuYeHQ said:
    Should I join the complaining?maybe I shouldn't be needed, and the complaining people can go from the moon to the earth hand in hand(⊙o⊙)

    those are valentines and happy testicle days

  • @chimichurri said:
    After a brief period online..

    ..TYOC036 is down again :cry:

  • Another stupid question ...

    Where do I find the "CPU Utilization" graph in the SolusVM or in the graphs?

    I am guessing the actual "CPU Utilization" is the percentage shown by 'qemu' in the Host process list, which could be substantially higher than the load-average in the Guest?

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @erk said:
    Another stupid question ...

    Where do I find the "CPU Utilization" graph in the SolusVM or in the graphs?

    I am guessing the actual "CPU Utilization" is the percentage shown by 'qemu' in the Host process list, which could be substantially higher than the load-average in the Guest?

    I don't think that a CPU graph is available is SolusVM at VirMach. Traffic and HDD graphs are there, but no CPU utilization graphs.
    I do that with my monitoring system.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @erk said:
    Another stupid question ...

    Where do I find the "CPU Utilization" graph in the SolusVM or in the graphs?

    I am guessing the actual "CPU Utilization" is the percentage shown by 'qemu' in the Host process list, which could be substantially higher than the load-average in the Guest?

    I don't think that a CPU graph is available is SolusVM at VirMach. Traffic and HDD graphs are there, but no CPU utilization graphs.
    I do that with my monitoring system.

    What do you monitor , and what threshold do you look for?

  • @erk said:
    Another stupid question ...

    Where do I find the "CPU Utilization" graph in the SolusVM or in the graphs?

    I am guessing the actual "CPU Utilization" is the percentage shown by 'qemu' in the Host process list, which could be substantially higher than the load-average in the Guest?

    I stole it and used @FrankZ bus for a clean get away

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @erk said: What do you monitor , and what threshold do you look for?

    There are many ways to monitor CPU use from inside the VPS. You could install the "sysstat" package and run /usr/bin/vmstat -atS M and it will give you various statistics including CPU usage. Another way without installing anything is to use top with a cronjob. top -b -n [number of cpu cores on the VPS] | grep Cpu >> somefilename will accumulate CPU info in a file you can then graph by field. The CPU limit based on VirMach AUP is no more than 33% per core.

  • This is a general rule of thumb I've been following going through all leftover order approvals and such, this isn't 100% but basically how it turned out to be and I'm really trying to push through all of them so I assume now's a good time to talk about it in case complaints start rolling in so at least everyone here is aware of what probably happened.

    The $0.25 orders, there's still hundreds left. So far we got one $0.25 chargeback and maybe a hundred tickets from people asking for updates. Already covered but we didn't expect nearly 1,000 orders all in Tokyo with like half of them multiple accounts. I mean I guess I could say we did expect that as a possibility and it happened, so these are just being mass refunded. It's taking longer because I'm actually double flagging down a lot of people for their behavior here, like signing up for multiple accounts specifically to order a bunch of the $0.25 specials is obviously not okay and creating 3-4 tickets screaming about it is also something we're going to make sure sticks with your account in the form of a note.

    Manual reviews, there's obviously a lot. It's getting progressively worse the closer it is to the last maybe 8 hours of orders as the offers got crazier and probably botted more. So generally if the system already thinks it's multiple accounts its gotten to the point where I'm not going to manually triple check it and then also check and see if you abused on your other accounts and so on if it's a small order that barely covers its own IPv4 cost. That means there's going to a lot of angry people that will come here claiming I just cancelled their cheap offers and it'll get astronomically worse as I work down to the $1.11 offer and so on. Rest assured whoever comes here complaining was at least to some level automatically flagged as multiple accounts.

    For offers that are larger/cost more I spend a few minutes checking it again or just take the risk on it and accept if it looks semi-OK. What I end up checking for is if it's directly related to people who caused a lot of problem in the past, if there was mass abuse on any of the other accounts. If it's just like two accounts linked and MSRP is above the price of a coffee then it's basically OK to accept for now, maybe check later if we start seeing a bunch of other bad behavior.

    I'm also going through people who made tickets about their orders, basically if you have tickets open about your order being processed, I'd say it reduces the chance of it actually getting processed by a significant amount, it moves into cancel/refund territory instead.

    Sorry for everyone waiting a while who actually placed legitimate orders on a single account, behaved, and just got stuck in the muck. I keep trying to pick those out but it's basically not really possible because for every one of those there's like a dozen landmines at this point. The most recent plans sold are the ones with most provisioning errors and unfortunately I'll also get to those pretty much last. So if you ordered an offer maybe in the last hour or two of flash sale, probably 70%+ chance it's not deployed still.

  • edited January 2023

    Look forward, hope soon its done, and start next big thing, more like Active status of vps ;)

    PS: Great...Talk about taht, I has received three of refund right now of $5 $7 $8.88, that's really quick, and happy to save some, monster is my favorite, little one can be cancel, no problem ;)

  • Every single $1.11 that I just got to (I don't know if it's all of them, or all the ones left over, or all the ones that didn't auto activate) were just multiple accounts and cancelled/refunded. And then probably 1/3 to 1/2 at least of basically any of the <$8 last few specials.

    Maybe like 70% of the last one or two $8.88 ones. The $2.22/YR one looks relatively OK (still probably like 20-30%), I won't look into it further so either that one had more thought put into it by whoever mass bought it to not get instantly caught or those are mostly legit for whatever reason, maybe the plan had low something and didn't get caught by the group of resellers if they set certain thresholds.

    I'm mass cancelling them right now for added immediate crying effect on HostLoc.

  • I'm sure someone will mention this and I definitely have the same idea, I want to try to actually sell/get these to people who aren't just trying to resell them but I also don't have time to plan out a raffle or anything, plus that kind of defeats the whole flash sale portion of it.

    So I will say this: within the next 10 years, if someone reminds me and there's some good idea to verify like 100 active people on LES quickly and put them in a specific client group, maybe we can do an exclusive LES-only flash sale to try to give people a chance so they're not competing with like a hundred bots.

  • Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited January 2023

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got a $20, $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 on the last day. So it was more than enough for me.
    It was a lot better than the last couple of years trying to get stuff at the end.

    EDIT: The $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 are pending. The $20 was provisioned right away.

  • I missed out on the $6.66 deal and now there's a chance I go to heaven.

    I demand reparations.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got a $20, $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 on the last day. So it was more than enough for me.
    It was a lot better than the last couple of years trying to get stuff at the end.

    I got a $20 (too beefy to resist) and a $7.47 (digits really ring a bell) during the very last hours.

  • @VirMach said: Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    For me, clicking the link - loading time - empty cart mostly, Cloudflare is slow in China. (But why MJJ bots made it through without triggering fraud prevention?)

  • I snapped up a $24.6. I don't know when it can start.

  • edited January 2023

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I managed to "get" the 13-15th last deals : the $7 (LA) ; $6 (Dallas) ; $5 (Dallas)

    But they're all 3 obviously still pending, and keeping my fingers crossed. :p

    (Edit: oh and for sub $10 deals, I also managed during that 3rd of January crazy deals short duration part:
    $6.38 Tampa - 1.5GB RAM ; 15GB ssd
    $6.94 Phoenix - 2GB RAM ; 15GB ssd

    • these two got instantly activated, yay)
  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @VirMach said: So I will say this: within the next 10 years, if someone reminds me and there's some good idea to verify like 100 active people on LES quickly and put them in a specific client group, maybe we can do an exclusive LES-only flash sale to try to give people a chance so they're not competing with like a hundred bots.

    I expect that I can put this list together for you if you want, if people will submit their VirMach account email to me via DM.
    LES username, VirMach account email.

  • You put yourself in trouble.
    Simply cancel all these orders and do flash sale again.

    It would be real account that email same as paypal email. :/

  • @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    The only ones that were totally unbuyable where the last few 1.11 and 2.22. Basically the bots locked everyone else out because of the load on the server. A $5 deal was buyable.

    The $10-$20 ones seem to be no problem if you hit it in the first couple of minutes.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said: So I will say this: within the next 10 years, if someone reminds me and there's some good idea to verify like 100 active people on LES quickly and put them in a specific client group, maybe we can do an exclusive LES-only flash sale to try to give people a chance so they're not competing with like a hundred bots.

    I expect that I can put this list together for you if you want, if people will submit their VirMach account email to me via DM.
    LES username, VirMach account email.

    What should be the criteria? Obviously there regulars here are fine, and the whiners are not, but likely there's going to be a bunch of MJJ whose strategy is going to be to show up here over the next 11 months are try to ingratiate themselves so they get on the list.

    Requires a bit of thought.

  • @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got the $1.11 deal. Still pending, but no worries on that.

    Although... you didn't have to cancel the accounts I made for my cats, my dog, my grandma, and my imaginary friend. Completely uncool. They were really looking forward to the $0.25 deals I sniped on their accounts. But i guess you can hide behind your TOS that animals, deceased people, and split personalities cant legally enter a business contract... Ohh the sacrilege!!

    yabs daddy

  • @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got 1.11 and 2.22 at the last minute but was refunded, the first time in years. I am not MJJ. Please check my account, [email protected]
    Make sure it's not flagged in the future, so you can buy the service later.

  • @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got a $20, $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 on the last day. So it was more than enough for me.
    It was a lot better than the last couple of years trying to get stuff at the end.

    EDIT: The $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 are pending. The $20 was provisioned right away.

    $8.88,11.11,20 is all be refund,If you don't want to sell it, don't do it, okay?

    Can it be said that the refunds are all illegal?

    Virmach is always right?In the view of virmach, the customer is ridiculous, so let's see how long it can laugh

  • @xinzivps said:

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got 1.11 and 2.22 at the last minute but was refunded, the first time in years. I am not MJJ. Please check my account, [email protected]
    Make sure it's not flagged in the future, so you can buy the service later.

    But... this is your first comment here.

    I think the question was more directed to those that have been here a while without bots or multiple accounts, oh and @Mason :p

  • @VirMach said:
    I'm sure someone will mention this and I definitely have the same idea, I want to try to actually sell/get these to people who aren't just trying to resell them but I also don't have time to plan out a raffle or anything, plus that kind of defeats the whole flash sale portion of it.

    So I will say this: within the next 10 years, if someone reminds me and there's some good idea to verify like 100 active people on LES quickly and put them in a specific client group, maybe we can do an exclusive LES-only flash sale to try to give people a chance so they're not competing with like a hundred bots.

    I think a good criteria for this, even if they're not active in LES, is people with multiple servers already on their account. These people are the antithesis of the multi-accounters. People could just asked to be added on that basis. One for the introverts and those too busy to be on LES.

    Another thing you should consider for this group, since they have their LES id associated with their VM ids, is making flash sales strictly forum-only support for non-critical problems, to lower your costs and workload. And if you're rude in the forums you get taken off the flash sale list.

    A final suggestion I'd make is to offer IPv6 only servers. There are definitely use cases for these and would make sense if it lowers your costs and makes for better deals.

  • @cgkings said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got a $20, $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 on the last day. So it was more than enough for me.
    It was a lot better than the last couple of years trying to get stuff at the end.

    EDIT: The $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 are pending. The $20 was provisioned right away.

    $8.88,11.11,20 is all be refund,If you don't want to sell it, don't do it, okay?

    Can it be said that the refunds are all illegal?

    Virmach is always right?In the view of virmach, the customer is ridiculous, so let's see how long it can laugh

    Why are you complaining about VirMach? They are following their own rules, but you are not. Now that you're suffering the consequences you're here abusing VirMach? It's your actions that have caused the problem, not theirs. They have the right to refuse service to anyone who broke their rules.

    I'm going to assume you're like 12 years old, because you certainly act like you are.

  • edited January 2023

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got $1.11 cancelled and refunded, $5 cancelled but not yet refunded, the rest $8.88 and $2.22 are pending

    Edit: I didn't received the email for the cancellation of the $5

  • Looking forward to rebranding LES as MJJSpirit and selling it to Biloh in a couple years 🤑

    yabs daddy

  • ChadFranzChadFranz Retired
    edited January 2023

    @cgkings said: Can it be said that the refunds are all illegal?

    No, it can't. Refunds are legal.
    If you prefer for them to keep your money without providing you service kindly open high priority ticket and put in the subject: "for trees".

  • Not sure where I would fit in the LES community members, as I have lurked a lot before and was lurking on OGF for at least 10 years where I found out about all the lower end deals, but never really contributed until recently.

    I was not active during the final hours, as sleep seemed to be more important for some reason, I have tried arguing with it before, but it always wins in the end :( but I was happy with the offers I got and think they were very reasonable.

  • You should consider blocking all Chinese IPs like what InceptionHosting is doing.

    VirMach: Customer’s Service cannot use more than 10% of the monthly allocated bandwidth in under twenty-four (24) hours.
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#aup

  • @abiaolaoge said:
    You should consider blocking all Chinese IPs like what InceptionHosting is doing.

    Those people are pros.
    Pros don't use Chinese IPs but M247 Europe SRL IPs!

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @ChadFranz said:

    @abiaolaoge said:
    You should consider blocking all Chinese IPs like what InceptionHosting is doing.

    Those people are pros.
    Pros don't use Chinese IPs but M247 Europe SRL IPs!

    This @ChadFranz guy is pretty smart.

  • edited January 2023

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    In the last 2-3 hours I got the $20 (which was activated quickly) and the $7, $6 and $5 ones. I think 1 or 2 more that was a little higher cost but too lazy to login and get my phone to do the 2fa.

    It was pretty quick until the 2.22 and 1.11 showed up, then the bots slowed the site way down. What would take half a second to load started taking 5+ seconds

    Edit: logged in to check, also got a 6.66 8.88 11.11 and a 7.47 one

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027
    https://billing.virmach.com/networkissuesrss.php had a change.
    ---
    (changed) NYCB009 is continuing to have several issues. We are currently attempting to restore controls, but it still requires a kernel patch and firmware update for the RAID controller.
    (into   ) NYCB009 (VPShared/cPanel) is continuing to have several issues. We are currently attempting to restore controls, but it still requires a kernel patch and firmware update for the RAID controller.
    (changed) Resolved:
    (into   ) Resolved / Recurring Issue
    ---
    

    Resolved got merged with Recurring Issues
    :trollface:

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • @Mason said: Looking forward to rebranding LES as MJJSpirit and selling it to Biloh in a couple years 🤑

    You could just change /favicon to MJJ for some keks.

  • @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got $7, $6, $5, and $11.11 on the last day. I don't have $2.22 and $1.11, strange even $7$6$5 $11.11 refunded money give me ,$6.29 (#1523416) ,i 'm got to success payment alipay it not pending is cancelled.

    i need cheap vps year payment .

  • @Mason said:
    Looking forward to rebranding LES as MJJSpirit and selling it to Biloh in a couple years 🤑

    This actually makes me wonder, would you ever consider a buyout? It would suck to see this forum go the way of LET.

  • @nutjob said:

    @cgkings said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @VirMach said:
    Or actually let me ask, did anyone here actually get any of the last 10-20 offers? Share some info, what's the general consensus? Was there enough for you to already grab maybe a sub $10 good deal? Or did it feel like they mass disappeared?

    I got a $20, $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 on the last day. So it was more than enough for me.
    It was a lot better than the last couple of years trying to get stuff at the end.

    EDIT: The $7, $6, $8.88 and $2.22 are pending. The $20 was provisioned right away.

    $8.88,11.11,20 is all be refund,If you don't want to sell it, don't do it, okay?

    Can it be said that the refunds are all illegal?

    Virmach is always right?In the view of virmach, the customer is ridiculous, so let's see how long it can laugh

    Why are you complaining about VirMach? They are following their own rules, but you are not. Now that you're suffering the consequences you're here abusing VirMach? It's your actions that have caused the problem, not theirs. They have the right to refuse service to anyone who broke their rules.

    I'm going to assume you're like 12 years old, because you certainly act like you are.

    All opposition voices come from the offenders?This is your logic, why can't you view this event correctly

    12 years old?are you going to start an abuse?

  • @ChadFranz said:

    @cgkings said: Can it be said that the refunds are all illegal?

    No, it can't. Refunds are legal.
    If you prefer for them to keep your money without providing you service kindly open high priority ticket and put in the subject: "for trees".

    What I mean is that everyone who has been refunded is wrong?

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited January 2023

    @cgkings said:

    @ChadFranz said:

    @cgkings said: Can it be said that the refunds are all illegal?

    No, it can't. Refunds are legal.
    If you prefer for them to keep your money without providing you service kindly open high priority ticket and put in the subject: "for trees".

    What I mean is that everyone who has been refunded is wrong?

    IMO I don't think that everyone who has been or will be refunded is on the naughty list. One should also see that there was the possibility of overselling the available resources due to the billing panel issues raised by VirMach before.

    Of course people have a right to assume what ever they wish. They can say you are a naughty boy, but just because someone says it does not make it true. You know who you are better than anyone else.

  • @cgkings said:
    What I mean is that everyone who has been refunded is wrong?

    Not everyone. Approximately every 42th refunded person is innocent. You're number 78.

    Please let us know if you need any further assistance. We're here to help.

    @FrankZ said:
    This @ChadFranz guy is pretty smart.

    I am touched. Thank you Pops.

  • edited January 2023

    @VirMach said:
    I'm sure someone will mention this and I definitely have the same idea, I want to try to actually sell/get these to people who aren't just trying to resell them but I also don't have time to plan out a raffle or anything, plus that kind of defeats the whole flash sale portion of it.

    So I will say this: within the next 10 years, if someone reminds me and there's some good idea to verify like 100 active people on LES quickly and put them in a specific client group, maybe we can do an exclusive LES-only flash sale to try to give people a chance so they're not competing with like a hundred bots.

    Last day almost vps had them, but none of $2 and $1, still happiness

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