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  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OGSenpai

    Now this is confusing (for me): my ATL hostname has a MIA node name, yet is now in OKC. :s

    It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away.
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  • @Virnach, I like it so far, can I ask one more migration by opening same form of ticket?

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  • Yes

  • No .

  • I asked one more anyway, Ticket #115965

  • Thanks @VirMach for adding the extra bandwidth.

    But I won't be using that bandwidth for a while.

    So I set up an unofficial OKC speed test service

    For those who don't have an OKC server yet and are interested in that location try it:http://193.58.147.138/test/speedtest/

    For privacy reasons, I will not record the IPs of visitors (will uniformly use 0.0.0.0 instead), but will record download speeds, upload speeds, and ISP sources (not very accurate).

    All data will be deleted at the end of the next month or before the service stops, and this service will stop at the end of the next month or when the bandwidth runs out.

    Hope you guys like it.

    (Please don't kill my server B) )

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King
    edited May 9
    -------------------- A Bench.sh Script By Teddysun -------------------
     Version            : v2025-05-08
     Usage              : wget -qO- bench.sh | bash
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     CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 2 @ 3499.998 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✓ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✓ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 59.0 GB (1.7 GB Used)
     Total Mem          : 2.9 GB (253.2 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 512.0 MB (0 Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 22 hour 38 min                                 
    Load average       : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.1.0-34-amd64
     TCP CC             : bbr
     Virtualization     : KVM
     IPv4/IPv6          : ✓ Online / ✗ Offline
     Organization       : AS25693 Virtual Machine Solutions LLC
     Location           : Oklahoma City / US
     Region             : Oklahoma
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     I/O Speed(1st run) : 1.0 GB/s
     I/O Speed(2nd run) : 979 MB/s
     I/O Speed(3rd run) : 1.0 GB/s
     I/O Speed(average) : 1009.0 MB/s
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     Node Name        Upload Speed      Download Speed      Latency
     Speedtest.net    761.63 Mbps       894.98 Mbps         104.21 ms
     Paris, FR        733.70 Mbps       965.54 Mbps         109.94 ms
     Amsterdam, NL    710.29 Mbps       858.68 Mbps         115.12 ms
     Shanghai, CN     36.93 Mbps        827.21 Mbps         261.35 ms
     Hong Kong, CN    4.25 Mbps         0.73 Mbps           190.80 ms
     Singapore, SG    51.85 Mbps        864.24 Mbps         217.74 ms
     Tokyo, JP        435.97 Mbps       964.37 Mbps         169.15 ms          
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Finished in        : 3 min 52 sec
     Timestamp          : 2025-05-09 06:16:00 BST
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    
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  • @VirMach
    From WHMCS, VNC works as it should. Change host name works.
    From SolusVM, reconfigure networking works on template installed VPS.
    I did not found any bugs in the control panels so far.
    Will try more when reinstall is available.
    Network is nice and steady.

  • question:why everytime start i need to wait 1min30s

  • JabJab Senpai

    answer: check logs.

    However I recall this feature only in Ubuntu waiting for network and you needed to tweak some settings (netplan (c)), but yours is by disk - checking something? :D

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    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
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  • @taizi said:
    question:why everytime start i need to wait 1min30s

    Check your fstab. It might be looking for something by UUID that doesn't exist.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OGSenpai

    answer: the grease needs to warm up to allow the rust to spin on the disc.

    It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away.
    NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh)

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    @AlwaysSkint said:
    Now this is confusing (for me): my ATL hostname has a MIA node name, yet is now in OKC. :s

    All accurate in a 630 mile radius

    @imok said:
    I want my Virmach servers in Dallas please.

    Order them and I can unplug it and drive it down to Dallas for you, in a self-storage unit.

    @Kris said: Some high quality Lumen (albeit loves to backhaul through DFW) from all tests I've done.

    I've spoken with our "solution engineer" at Lumen.

    So Lumen's closest POP is Tulsa even though they have lines going up out of Oklahoma City. I assume in some specific cases this could mean theoretically, one route that looks closer might actually be further away since it has to come in from Tulsa but we've already confirmed for Denver and Chicago that there should be no reason for it to need to backhaul to Dallas.

    They're going to speak with a "WAN Architect" to come up with some suggested changes.

    @risturiz said:
    DC Lat / Lng? So i can add this to NMS map :-)

    35.4668473, -97.6492831

    @Kris said: Do we need to play some sort of Saw type game to get that $25 dedi @VirMach ? This would be the perfect 'not just another DC in the tri-state area' for backups and I need one more bare metal server if it's possible. Let me know who / what I need to sacrifice to get in on that deal.

    I'm trying to modify the BIOS to have some important setting already set how we need it and trying to flash it with a programmer instead. This ends up saving a lot of time but at the same time it could end... not well. Basically the boards are super annoying with how they end up supporting the newer processors, I've already figured that part out, now we just need to replicate it quickly onto many boards. Otherwise I'm stuck putting a processor on, updating, removing, putting in new processor, and between the processor change the setting resets, and once it resets I lose VGA output. So then I have to connect an external GPU, and I don't have any GPUs that can just get enough power from PCIe right now, so I have to also bring in another power supply, reconnect everything, plug in the GPU, connect it through that, then change the setting, then save, then remove the GPU, rewire everything. Per server. And of course all the waiting for booting, the update to complete, any weird complications, etc.

    I should've just done 3000 series to be honest. All of this is because someone at ASRock did the timings incorrectly for something for this specific AMD processor and just "assumed" all 5000 series are the same. I kind of agree with them though, AMD shouldn't have had sub-series or whatever you want to call it for processors, just call it something else, don't pretend it's in the same line. Even worse, within the same series they specifically made for being APUs, they went back and disabled the integrated GPU.

    For the remainder I may just do 2600 or 3500 (with the 2600 you get full hyperthreading, with 3500 you don't but it performs the same. The 3500 should have better compatibility with the boards though.) These are the ones that will go in the $25 configuration so I'll let @Kris decide.

    If that's the plan I go with though that might mean no 5500 version anymore for the $25 configuration and a slight delay on those until new CPUs come in, I might still be able to do a few of them with 2600's.

    @taizi said:
    question:why everytime start i need to wait 1min30s

    Default SolusVM template. I had some idea for fixing it in our own template version but those never actually get finished.

  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider

    OKC Update

    Yesterday I got additional servers fully ready. The KVM switch is also in place. Rails also came in for some servers. The dongles also came in I think for KVM switch. Cox Communications also asked us for the 3rd time if we want single mode or multi-mode fiber so I've answered them again.

    I'm probably going to get some other servers ready, and go in to the DC tonight with them and then maybe redo the cable management and organize things a bit now that it's taking shape. This might mean the first unscheduled maintenance so beta testers may go down for a bit. I also need to change the DAC, I had to use one that isn't ideal length. Except I don't even think I have the new one yet so that might be our second unscheduled maintenance.

    IP addresses may also change or I might migrate everyone to a different node.

    The storage node has an SSD now, but this board also has some weird VGA issue, I might need to update the BIOS or just fix IPMI do it through that, it needs operating system installed.

    Epyc nodes, we have two more that are "ready-ish" and another two coming in, with a sixth one being built-ish. These all have finnicky motherboards that won't accept the memory I have, so I'm ordering additional memory for them as well.

    One big issue at the facility is that (a) the WiFi doesn't work which isn't uncommon, and (b) my cell reception has gotten to the level of being completely unusable. So I'll try to remember to take down a WiFi router.

    Then I'll probably spend the rest of the time today or tomorrow setting up VirtFusion and/or dedicated server provisioning module of sorts, maybe also setting up the controls for the PDUs. But I'd probably say most my time is going to be spent staring at the cabinets and wondering what should go where, like for way too long instead of actually doing it, so inevitability lots of shuffling positions.

    The rest of the weekend, likely no sale, but spring cleaning. I already have too many boxes and too many things I took out of shelves, I need to re-organize inventory. I'm still in OKC, my flight got cancelled so for now the trip I was going to take has been cancelled. So if anything goes wrong then I should be able to fix it pretty quickly after my monitoring system alerts me (you guys on this LES thread at the moment.)

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    @tenpera said:
    @Virnach, I like it so far, can I ask one more migration by opening same form of ticket?

    I'll try to process any additional requests in daily batches. Yes, you guys can keep putting them in.

  • @VirMach said:
    Ryzen Bare Metal

    It's looking like this right now. Can change, it's already changed so much, I just never updated you guys until I was semi-sure.

    The prices are estimates and are the sale prices. What will likely happen for the sale is that I'll build everything out, won't put in specific drives, and they'll be "pre-orders" except not really a pre-order, as in it'll only be done when they're racked, it would just help get an idea on the demand and then let's say 72 hours setup time or we say we failed to deliver it and just refund you.

    Let me know if there's any feedback on how these should be modified, if pricing looks good, and so on. We're pretty flexible with them at this stage. All I know is that I tried to put in both NVMe and a RAID controller and while that's technically possible, it would need to be done later with some custom bracket, specific controllers, etc.

    @VirMach said:
    Oh maybe I should have mentioned this last part:

    Anyone who previously had a dedicated server with us and was impacted by a delay in it being switched to Ryzen and you wanted Ryzen, or you were negatively affected by the time we got Biloh'd or the time we got Ernie'd then we would offer you an equivalent Ryzen bare metal at the same price you were paying. Unfortunately, since I know someone may ask, this doesn't mean we can include ECC memory or KVM or IPMI or more IPv4 even though the original technically had those thing(s.) Those are all additional line items and weren't calculated in my ability to make that offer. Also putting another disclaimer, this doesn't apply to any dedicated servers we may have given out for free. Maybe. Let's say all of this requires my approval but I'll be nice.

    @taizi said: want to plug some HDD as well

    People can send in their own drives and I'll install it without any additional setup fees (for members of this community, at least for these initial purchases) as long as you do not ever want it back, even if you cancel (I'll make an exception to this if you're sending us a $500 hard drive or something like that and get pre-approved for me to track it so we know it's yours.)

    Wait wait, we're doing dedis again? Oh man, I picked the perfect time to check in again, I definitely want to get in on this. My old dedi was one of those insanely unsustainable deals, I think 225/yr for 32gb/240gb, and you went so far above and beyond already with everything that happened through your dedi ordeals. I'd love to snag one of these, especially with the option of sending in my own drives. I've got a pair of 14tb wd reds I bought for a NAS build that never happened, and rather that keep them sitting around gathering dust, this seems like the perfect use for them.

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    @bakageta said: Wait wait, we're doing dedis again? Oh man, I picked the perfect time to check in again, I definitely want to get in on this. My old dedi was one of those insanely unsustainable deals, I think 225/yr for 32gb/240gb, and you went so far above and beyond already with everything that happened through your dedi ordeals. I'd love to snag one of these, especially with the option of sending in my own drives. I've got a pair of 14tb wd reds I bought for a NAS build that never happened, and rather that keep them sitting around gathering dust, this seems like the perfect use for them.

    Yep, we can do that. Just put in a ticket. So your equivalent based on what you said would be:

    @VirMach said: B ) $35/mo - Ryzen 5500, 32GB RAM, 4x500GB** SSD (Can optionally upgrade to 4x1TB SSD)

    And it'd be $225 a year or whatever you mentioned instead of the $35 a month. If you want to send in two drives, it'd mean two of the SSDs get removed. I don't remember if the RAID controllers we have would support that mix but I remember it as being able to... or at least we have some that could do it.

    I'd consider your drives as qualifying for the "pre-approved" you can get it back if you cancel territory but don't get mad if you contact us in 8 years and I've forgotten this policy essentially made up just for you at the moment. You'd have to still cover shipping/handling basically if you do want it back (shipping + pickup cost + packing + 15 minutes hands.)


    Some notes on HW RAID controllers for Ryzen Dedis

    This was a long section, I'll replace it with this: probably no working BBU. These are older controllers that used batteries, batteries expire. Even if we got brand new batteries there's no way to guarantee what shelf life we'd be getting on them, plus they're just generally not very good in the first place. If you really want it, pay us more for a proper controller and CacheVault.


    Some notes on provisioning module for Dedicated servers and KVM dongles

    I found a module we'll likely be using that supports our KVM switch to some degree, as well as likely supports our PDUs. So that means it might be more nicely integrated for KVM and "power cycling" if you want to call it that.


    I also have a good update on this:

    @VirMach said: I'm trying to modify the BIOS to have some important setting already set how we need it and trying to flash it with a programmer instead. This ends up saving a lot of time but at the same time it could end... not well. Basically the boards are super annoying with how they end up supporting the newer processors, I've already figured that part out, now we just need to replicate it quickly onto many boards. Otherwise I'm stuck putting a processor on, updating, removing, putting in new processor, and between the processor change the setting resets, and once it resets I lose VGA output. So then I have to connect an external GPU, and I don't have any GPUs that can just get enough power from PCIe right now, so I have to also bring in another power supply, reconnect everything, plug in the GPU, connect it through that, then change the setting, then save, then remove the GPU, rewire everything. Per server. And of course all the waiting for booting, the update to complete, any weird complications, etc.

    After spending way too long on this, I now have a skill I did not think I'd ever need/use:

    I have modified the BIOS chip and flashing them to our custom version using an external programmer. It hasn't saved any time so far and it's still not where I need it to be but several more hours and we might have our own custom Frankenstein BIOS. Okay no, we did get somewhere with them, worst case scenario I can avoid having to stick in a Ryzen 3000 series into every motherboard to flash it first but it's not good enough to avoid sticking in a GPU temporarily.


    This is the part where I wrote out a lot of things but Chrome crashed and it didn't save it. I genuinely don't remember what it was about but several more sections and paragraphs.

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  • @VirMach said: Some notes on HW RAID controllers for Ryzen Dedis

    This was a long section, I'll replace it with this: probably no working BBU. These are older controllers that used batteries, batteries expire. Even if we got brand new batteries there's no way to guarantee what shelf life we'd be getting on them, plus they're just generally not very good in the first place. If you really want it, pay us more for a proper controller and CacheVault.

    🤦

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    edited May 10

    @taizi said:

    @VirMach said: Some notes on HW RAID controllers for Ryzen Dedis

    This was a long section, I'll replace it with this: probably no working BBU. These are older controllers that used batteries, batteries expire. Even if we got brand new batteries there's no way to guarantee what shelf life we'd be getting on them, plus they're just generally not very good in the first place. If you really want it, pay us more for a proper controller and CacheVault.

    🤦

    Do JBOD + Soft RAID or configure it correctly to reduce risk, or pretend it doesn't exist. I went back and checked and it looks like I'm already being careful with how it's "advertised" as in I didn't mention RAID at all in the configuration listings even before posting the actual sale, and they also won't go in on our website either.

    This isn't anything new, I bet I mentioned it on the OGF thread as well a few years ago.

    Found it!

    We did still add in RAID controllers without BBU and are plugging in the SSDs so people can get higher speeds on them without necessarily having to do RAID.

    Wow 2021, what was that like a year ago?

    EDIT -- Hmm, someone's selling bulk newer gen controllers pretty cheap, like the ones we paid $800-$1300 each for a few years ago. Very tempting but the last time I did that we didn't use them for 4 years I mean uhh, one year.

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  • i think i will grab some storage offer,because they are raid10(really?),and can I buy 3 4TB plan and merge them together

    also,any sneak peek about EPYC vps/dedi?

  • VirMachVirMach Hosting Provider
    edited May 10

    @taizi said: i think i will grab some storage offer,because they are raid10(really?),and can I buy 3 4TB plan and merge them together

    Yes, RAID10. You can't merge them unless you just want to add 8TB to the 4TB without the extra memory, CPU, and IPv4. For the same price as buying three of course. No benefits to doing it other than big disk one place if needed. If there's demand I can see about adding another plan higher up or something.

    I should really stop working on the BIOS for these Ryzen dedicated servers and go wrap everything else up.

    @taizi said: also,any sneak peek about EPYC vps/dedi?

    The dedicated server will likely be $59 to $69 a month, and 128GB to 256GB memory. With only a 1TB U.2 enterprise SSD (add $10-15 per month per 1TB additional that fits, or per 1TB extra on same drive.) I've probably said something similar or slightly different on it and it's not any more specific now.

    For VPS, I don't want to overhype it but those really cheap high memory deals were planned on older generation Epyc for all of them except the obvious one (IPv6 only may go on dual Xeon or Gold.) The boards are finnicky on memory though as mentioned so they're not up to the higher memory amount yet, I did just buy about 10x 32GB today, buying more later. These sticks do cost like 33% (to realistically 66% more) though so it could end up affecting the plans for both dedicated server prices and/or memory amount and/or the VPS plans (with a bump up price, bump down memory, or bump down to dual E5's or Gold. We'll see. Well the gold's technically not a bump down but it feels like it, I can't see them as anything other than E5's pretending to be Gold.)

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  • @VirMach said: If there's demand I can see about adding another plan higher up or something.

    yes,higher plan better,and we can get more ram/cpu(compare to merge the disk only)

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    edited May 10

    The early bird deals are really going to be early bird though, don't expect them to hang around forever or get restocked. I mean they probably could since it technically pays itself off and its portion of IPv4 and colocation, but I also want this location to pay off its really expensive network blend eventually.

    I had more exact prices in my earlier draft, so if I did post that, then refer to that as it's more accurate: our network blend costs (MSRP) about $800 per 1Gbps for the amount we took in bulk. Compared to the cheapest option which is something like $70/1Gbps (MSRP.) $1200+ per 1Gbps not bulk. We of course did not pay MSRP for it, but I can also tell you it wasn't a 10x discount either. So we're really going for the premium network over single homing what we could have for much cheaper. That could have worked out too, and it would have meant Oklahoma would have been ultra cheap (cheaper than it is which is already pretty low) but I didn't want to turn it into our Buffalo. For example, it could have made the $25 a month Ryzen dedicated server early bird special be closer to $10 to 15 a month. Actually most of you would have probably preferred that but good thing I'm here to make questionable decisions be the grown up to make a potentially bad decision that helps keep it nice.

    We'll probably go until at least some nodes are filled out and for some plans, there's not that many. Like a dozen or two of the higher end VPS plans could end up exhausting the early bird stock.

    @taizi said:

    @VirMach said: If there's demand I can see about adding another plan higher up or something.

    yes,higher plan better,and we can get more ram/cpu(compare to merge the disk only)

    I'll see what we can do. It's just not set up that way but maybe it should be set up that way. Right now we have additional disk options for the 4TB plan because the order quantities on that are already low enough to where it doesn't make sense to have individual 8TB, 12TB, 16TB, and 32TB plans.

    And going back to early birds, since it is RAID10, if a little over half a dozen people bought 12TB storage plans we'd be close to running out since we're reserving some space for our own stuff. For storage though I'm more likely to be able to extend the early bird prices if there's demand, just as pre-orders (with set date where we just refund everyone if it's not met.)

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  • @VirMach said: The early bird deals are really going to be early bird though, don't expect them to hang around forever or get restocked

    it makes me worried I can't grab one before others if I post benchmark result to MJJ forums

    @VirMach said: I'll see what we can do. It's just not set up that way but maybe it should be set up that way. Right now we have additional disk options for the 4TB plan because the order quantities on that are already low enough to where it doesn't make sense to have individual 8TB, 12TB, 16TB, and 32TB plans.

    what the specs of 4TB plan,if the cpu/memory/bandwidth is enough/good,I can just buy 4TB and choose additional disk options
    who don't want more cpu/memory/bandwidth(even ips) for higher idle efficiency

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusion

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @VirMach said: For the remainder I may just do 2600 or 3500 (with the 2600 you get full hyperthreading, with 3500 you don't but it performs the same. The 3500 should have better compatibility with the boards though.) These are the ones that will go in the $25 configuration so I'll let @Kris decide.

    If that's the plan I go with though that might mean no 5500 version anymore for the $25 configuration and a slight delay on those until new CPUs come in, I might still be able to do a few of them with 2600's.

    Whichever one allows me to purchase one quicker with a JBOD setup if possible. Like you said they both look similiar. I filled up Plex repo and playing with GetChannels now, and it needs a home, I'm riding my VM's at 80% disk and it's just what I need storage wise.

  • I must have missed something - is there an order link to early bird storage ?

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  • I want a dedi. I don't need it. But I want it. As usual.

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  • @imok said:
    I want a dedi. I don't need it. But I want it. As usual.

    Me too...

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    i dont want a dedi. i want 100 vps

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