VDS hosts (Actual VDS not VPS with freindly FUP) ?? or stupidly cheap dedi's ?? Suggestions? Offers?

backtogeek · January 30

I want to add a few test locations to TierHive at some point, possibly as a free/trial tier. I will need to make them public to see real word data, I don't want to mess with dedis for this, and I also dont want to piss off good fellow VPS hosts with heavy CPU Use (we hate that)

But actually finding a VDS is not so simple, I have never heard of half the ones I find and the ones I do are so expensive I might as well get a dedi.

Looking for something with minimum specs (higher is better), like:

2+ cores (need to be able to actually run at 100% for extended periods)
8GB Ram (not contested or very low contention)
100GB NVMe (must be pre-allocated, can be iops capped)
Even 100 Mbps is fine
1 IPv4
IPv6 not required.
basically, if I use it to 100% 24x7 i dont want to hear from you (not that this is the plan)

No specific price in mind, or if I am missing somewhere that has ultra cheap dedi's (apart from online.net/kimsufi/ovh/hetzner/webtropia/worldstream), I am all ears

Ympker · January 30

Wait, so AnthonySmith is back in the hosting biz? Somehow I missed this, but welcome back anyway! Glws
I love the super cheap NAT vps approach with hourly billing
Have you thought about a (bigger) investment in a lifetime ZAP Hosting Dedicated Server? Could be worth a thought

backtogeek · January 30

@Ympker said:
Wait, so AnthonySmith is back in the hosting biz? Somehow I missed this, but welcome back anyway! Glws
I love the super cheap NAT vps approach with hourly billing
Have you thought about a (bigger) investment in a lifetime ZAP Hosting Dedicated Server? Could be worth a thought

haha you only just now realised its me? https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/10288/tierhive-from-the-creators-of-les-nat-done-different-free-to-try/p1

I thought I must have annoyed you or something, I sent you a message ages ago and on steam on got no reply haha.

MikeA · January 30

@backtogeek said: But actually finding a VDS is not so simple, I have never heard of half the ones I find and the ones I do are so expensive I might as well get a dedi.

I still think VDS is just marketing bullshit. It's inherently a shared environment, and honestly no company selling VDS is going through the hassle of pinning CPU cores/threads, restricting/slicing storage resources, unless it's a high cost VDS that nobody wants (as you said.) Budget VDS aren't worth the hassle compared to standard VPS that work fine most of the time.

Chievo · January 30

Vultr in mind ? Also like said in discord . Advin or SGraf could have some interesting options as well

backtogeek · January 30

@MikeA said:

@backtogeek said: But actually finding a VDS is not so simple, I have never heard of half the ones I find and the ones I do are so expensive I might as well get a dedi.

I still think VDS is just marketing bullshit. It's inherently a shared environment, and honestly no company selling VDS is going through the hassle of pinning CPU cores/threads, restricting/slicing storage resources, unless it's a high cost VDS that nobody wants (as you said.) Budget VDS aren't worth the hassle compared to standard VPS that work fine most of the time.

Yeah, it kind of, I agree, but it works both ways, you can't market it as a VDS then get annoyed at me if I smash all the cores for 4 hours. you pay extra not to deal with a FUP. and that has advantages, if you have any offers I am all ears i know you have been around and relaiable for a long ass time so I would trust you to at least say... dude... i throttled you instead of "FUCK OFF I dont want you as a customer"

beagle · January 30

Netcup do VDS (aka root-servers) in US, Germany, Austria and Singapore and they are a solid provider.
Not sure if it's on your price range.
https://www.netcup.com/en/server/root-server

Ympker · January 30

@backtogeek said:

@Ympker said:
Wait, so AnthonySmith is back in the hosting biz? Somehow I missed this, but welcome back anyway! Glws
I love the super cheap NAT vps approach with hourly billing
Have you thought about a (bigger) investment in a lifetime ZAP Hosting Dedicated Server? Could be worth a thought

haha you only just now realised its me? https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/10288/tierhive-from-the-creators-of-les-nat-done-different-free-to-try/p1

I have to admit, ever since you got the new username, the name AnthonySmith doesn't come to mind that automatically anymore (blame me getting towards 30 years old, I guess). I knew you were Anth somewhere in my head though. I was reminded of that a couple of days ago, when I read the ORL thread where you explained your new username. That said, I completely missed the launch of your new Hosting service lol. Life's been busy, I'm gonna take my final exams in March.

I thought I must have annoyed you or something, I sent you a message ages ago and on steam on got no reply haha.

No man, all good. Sorry about that. I probably just opened the message, then did smth else, and forgot to reply. I still love you Feel free to msg again

Nyr · January 30

@beagle said:
Netcup do VDS (aka root-servers) in US, Germany, Austria and Singapore and they are a solid provider.
Not sure if it's on your price range.
https://www.netcup.com/en/server/root-server

Netcup is unsuitable to host third party content as they are very strict with abuse.

backtogeek · January 30

@Nyr said:

@beagle said:
Netcup do VDS (aka root-servers) in US, Germany, Austria and Singapore and they are a solid provider.
Not sure if it's on your price range.
https://www.netcup.com/en/server/root-server

Netcup is unsuitable to host third party content as they are very strict with abuse.

yeah i just dont really "feel" netcup tbh either. haha

@Ympker said: No man, all good. Sorry about that. I probably just opened the message, then did smth else, and forgot to reply. I still love you Feel free to msg again

Right, I will, in April, study is more important than age of empires II !

backtogeek · January 30

@Ympker said: the name AnthonySmith doesn't come to mind

Yeah i was thinking about requesting a change back, but i kind of like this and I finally got the backtogeek domain back! expired, missed it, got jacked for seo.

DataRecovery · January 30

@backtogeek said: But actually finding a VDS is not so simple

Isn't that what they usually call "pinned cores"?

I.e. no other process (even the OS and hypervisor, IIRC) can utilize those. You also get the same cores each time the server restarts.

Advin · January 30

I could offer you the following plan that is "semi-dedicated"

KVM Standard M
AMD EPYC Milan (2 vCPU)
16GB DDR4 ECC Memory
128GB NVMe SSD Storage
32TB Bandwidth (10 Gbps)
Located in Kansas City, MO
$8/month

If you are interested, just PM me and I can provide you with an order link.

The reason why I say "semi-dedicated" is because you can use the CPU 24x7 without issue. However, your VM will be on a hypervisor with shared CPU servers, and there is still a small % chance of CPU steal under peak loads if our monitoring system does not kick in quick enough to keep the other VMs in check.

backtogeek · January 30

@DataRecovery said:

@backtogeek said: But actually finding a VDS is not so simple

Isn't that what they usually call "pinned cores"?

I.e. no other process (even the OS and hypervisor, IIRC) can utilize those. You also get the same cores each time the server restarts.

Yeah but you can also pin multiple virtual servers to the same cores

backtogeek · January 30

@Advin said:
I could offer you the following plan that is "semi-dedicated"

KVM Standard M
AMD EPYC Milan (2 vCPU)
16GB DDR4 ECC Memory
128GB NVMe SSD Storage
32TB Bandwidth (10 Gbps)
Located in Kansas City, MO
$8/month

If you are interested, just PM me and I can provide you with an order link.

The reason why I say "semi-dedicated" is because you can use the CPU 24x7 without issue. However, your VM will be on a hypervisor with shared CPU servers, and there is still a small % chance of CPU steal under peak loads if our monitoring system does not kick in quick enough to keep the other VMs in check.

I really appreciate that but I would feel rude only paying $8 for that.

yoursunny · January 31

@backtogeek said:

@Advin said:
I could offer you the following plan that is "semi-dedicated"

KVM Standard M
AMD EPYC Milan (2 vCPU)
16GB DDR4 ECC Memory
128GB NVMe SSD Storage
32TB Bandwidth (10 Gbps)
Located in Kansas City, MO
$8/month

If you are interested, just PM me and I can provide you with an order link.

The reason why I say "semi-dedicated" is because you can use the CPU 24x7 without issue. However, your VM will be on a hypervisor with shared CPU servers, and there is still a small % chance of CPU steal under peak loads if our monitoring system does not kick in quick enough to keep the other VMs in check.

I really appreciate that but I would feel rude only paying $8 for that.

It comes with a chess set.

sh97 · January 31

Checkout @bingobangobongo HostBilby, they have VDS plans where you are allocated the cores.

You can also checkout layer7.net , greencloud , hostbrr
They have some value for money VDS plans, but those are not dedicated cores, but you can use the vCPUs 100%

backtogeek · January 31

@yoursunny said:

@backtogeek said:

@Advin said:
I could offer you the following plan that is "semi-dedicated"

KVM Standard M
AMD EPYC Milan (2 vCPU)
16GB DDR4 ECC Memory
128GB NVMe SSD Storage
32TB Bandwidth (10 Gbps)
Located in Kansas City, MO
$8/month

If you are interested, just PM me and I can provide you with an order link.

The reason why I say "semi-dedicated" is because you can use the CPU 24x7 without issue. However, your VM will be on a hypervisor with shared CPU servers, and there is still a small % chance of CPU steal under peak loads if our monitoring system does not kick in quick enough to keep the other VMs in check.

I really appreciate that but I would feel rude only paying $8 for that.

It comes with a chess set.

I like chess

backtogeek · January 31

@sh97 said:
Checkout @bingobangobongo HostBilby, they have VDS plans where you are allocated the cores.

You can also checkout layer7.net , greencloud , hostbrr
They have some value for money VDS plans, but those are not dedicated cores, but you can use the vCPUs 100%

Thanks for the tips, I will check.

VDS hosts (Actual VDS not VPS with freindly FUP) ?? or stupidly cheap dedi's ?? Suggestions? Offers?

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