[2022] ★ VirMach ★ RYZEN ★ NVMe ★★ The Epic Sales Offer Thread ★★

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  • @localhost said:

    @tenpera said:
    Suddenly
    I'm not half the man I used to be
    There's a shadow hanging over me
    Oh, yesterday came suddenly

    Yesterday
    Love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday

    Help! I need somebody help!
    Not just anybody, you know I need someone,
    HELP!

    LowEndSpirit is most supreme.

  • benben
    edited October 2022

    Boss, your focus should be to punish the abuse of resources, it could be a disaster if you insist on the authenticity of Chinese users' information, because they use vps to traverse GFW, if the data is leaked, they will result in being warned or even imprisoned by the Chinese government, so many of them are afraid to fill in the real information because of that.

  • edited October 2022

    @Daevien said:

    @qqlikelo said:
    Are you sure you understand what I'm saying? I'm not asking why suspended.
    I'm also not asking for the suspension to be lifted.
    I'm asking, VPS that has stopped.
    What is the final result of the processing, is it canceled, permanently suspended, or something else?
    see what I'm talking about

    If you read the rules, you will know what they are and what will happen if you don't follow them. So follow the rules and you won't have to worry about what happens if you break them.

    I really don't know what you are asking. because as with most of the translated stuff, you seem to be asking for two different things at the same time. Perhaps try using deepl instead of google or whatever you are using?

    As for as I know, most people impacted got this vague email (excerpt):

    ...Your service was suspended for: Account not in good standing...

    The chilling effect brought about by pocket crimes accusation is obvious: people will think twice before taking tempting offers, considering
    1. Little or no after-sale service (All Flash Sale has no support), which exists long before;
    2. Service suspension without clear allegation.

    It is Virmach who suspended service, so it's its responsibility to point out which exact term his user has violated.
    And accordingly, if the user denies the charge, it's the user's responsibility to provide proof to prove the innocence.

    But how could a user deny a pocket crime, like 1989.0604 pages-long TOS?

    Last, a native speaker can understand poor language usage.
    Otherwise, it's ridiculous or malicious. Which one do you belong to?

    LowEndSpirit is most supreme.

  • @ForMat_eXt4 said:
    As for as I know, most people impacted got this vague email (excerpt):

    ...Your service was suspended for: Account not in good standing...

    And I'm sure most people immediately knew what they did wrong, they just wanted it laid out in case the wrong thing was said so they could dispute it.

    Last, a native speaker can understand poor language usage.
    Otherwise, it's ridiculous or malicious. Which one do you belong to?

    I'm a native english speaker & writer. You are not. Your text is being run through a program that is not always accurate and then translated and output in a different language. And then the reverse is done for my response back to you.

    For example, I have no idea what a "pocket crime" that you keep mentioning is. Are you trying to say it's a minor crime what you did, not a major one like killing someone? Well, you still did a crime, why should you escape the consequences?

    Also, as has been stated MANY times before this, the accounts were ones that did multiple things that were against TOS. And you all know (and many of you admit) that buying from someone else is against TOS yet you did it anyway. So you all knew at least one way you've broken it. Stop trying to pretend you are innocent.

    Virmach has been extremely nice trying to resolve the issues with why you didn't buy directly for future people as well as offering people not lying about it a way to resolve the current issues. Yet you continue to insult us and Virmach over and over again while demanding things like a spoiled child.

  • edited October 2022

    Let's read Virmach AUP again:
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    No need for real info.
    No clear rules that don't allow users transfer service privately.

    Anyway they always can catch you for suspending your service with some excuses.

    🌟:SpartanHost,Cloudcone,Hostodo,WebHorizon
    💩:Virmach,Greencloud,Pacificrack really sucks

  • edited October 2022

    @VirMach said: ToS breach = generally $25 suspension fee

    Does this include suspension due to DMCA complain of pirate trorrent? ToS TL;DR

    Some providers are lenient, pay 5~10$ fine to get things done, everyone is happy except Paramount

    Ontario Dildo Inspector

  • @Daevien said:

    @ForMat_eXt4 said:
    As for as I know, most people impacted got this vague email (excerpt):

    ...Your service was suspended for: Account not in good standing...

    And I'm sure most people immediately knew what they did wrong, they just wanted it laid out in case the wrong thing was said so they could dispute it.

    Last, a native speaker can understand poor language usage.
    Otherwise, it's ridiculous or malicious. Which one do you belong to?

    I'm a native english speaker & writer. You are not. Your text is being run through a program that is not always accurate and then translated and output in a different language. And then the reverse is done for my response back to you.

    For example, I have no idea what a "pocket crime" that you keep mentioning is. Are you trying to say it's a minor crime what you did, not a major one like killing someone? Well, you still did a crime, why should you escape the consequences?

    Also, as has been stated MANY times before this, the accounts were ones that did multiple things that were against TOS. And you all know (and many of you admit) that buying from someone else is against TOS yet you did it anyway. So you all knew at least one way you've broken it. Stop trying to pretend you are innocent.

    Virmach has been extremely nice trying to resolve the issues with why you didn't buy directly for future people as well as offering people not lying about it a way to resolve the current issues. Yet you continue to insult us and Virmach over and over again while demanding things like a spoiled child.

    Some parts of your statement are correct, while some are not:
    1. "Pocket crime" are not widespread understood because in most democratic countries there are no such things. I thought "pocket crime" was of foreign origin, but now I know I was wrong. Sorry for any misunderstanding it caused, and I will be careful.

    1. I know I read and writing English myself, without any assistance of translation program. If you think I'm illiterate, fine, it's your choice, and I don't care.

    2. Look at what GreenCloud did when suspending service (I mean providing some sort of proof, instead of stating a vague "not in good standing"):
      https://ibb.co/QpyDMhH

    LowEndSpirit is most supreme.

  • Franzkafka said:
    No need for real info.

    Section 3, Point C
    C) Fraud Protection: VirMach uses automated fraud protection on all orders, so please enter all billing information correctly. Do not use proxies when ordering, and do not try to mask your identity in any way.

    No clear rules that don't allow users transfer service privately.

    Section 4, Point I
    I) Assignment: This Agreement and the rights granted and obligations undertaken hereunder may not be transferred, assigned or delegated in any manner by Customer, but may be so transferred, assigned or delegated by VirMach.

    Probably? IANAL

  • @Franzkafka said:
    Let's read Virmach AUP again:
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    No need for real info.
    No clear rules that don't allow users transfer service privately.

    Section 4J - "I) Assignment: This Agreement and the rights granted and obligations undertaken hereunder may not be transferred, assigned or delegated in any manner by Customer, but may be so transferred, assigned or delegated by VirMach."

    If you're going to link to terms "proving" your point, you might want to read them first.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    obviously @Franzkafka cant read or wont read or selectively dyslexic

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • edited October 2022

    @Franzkafka said: Let's read Virmach AUP again:
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    No need for real info.
    No clear rules that don't allow users transfer service privately.

    Anyway they always can catch you for suspending your service with some excuses.

    You should refer to the old version of the document, which has been modified dozens of times.
    And customers will be exempted from account trade or transfer in private if they registered the account in early times, for example before 2015:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140907135447/http://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    You cannot resell/transfer these free services to others. We may cancel or discontinue free offers at any time.

    That means customers (old enough) can freely trade non-free services. Am I wrong?
    At the same time, however, I doubt the value of VPSes before 2015, which few people are interested in.

    LowEndSpirit is most supreme.

  • edited October 2022

    @ForMat_eXt4 said:
    3. Look at what GreenCloud did when suspending service (I mean providing some sort of proof, instead of stating a vague "not in good standing"):
    https://ibb.co/QpyDMhH

    It must be really annoying to deal with army of those clients. So much ticketing and for what?
    suspension because of suspicious activity/request for change a server node with promo plan/refund request on a promo plan/and so on...

    I use VPS services from various companies for more than 15 years (I started some 2 years before LEA opened his famous blog) and I can't imagine to get suspended. I mean, never say never, it can happen (so far it didn't), because of some trivial unintentional reason, mistake or something, but like said so far it didn't. It seems like those things are reserved for very certain type of clientele.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited October 2022

    @ForMat_eXt4 said: Look at what GreenCloud did when suspending service (I mean providing some sort of proof, instead of stating a vague "not in good standing"):
    https://ibb.co/QpyDMhH

    In regards to your green cloud suspension, it's really two different things. If VirMach had suspended you for the same reason as GreenCloud (an unsecured VPS sending out suspicious traffic) you would probably have received a similar notification with a log entry from VirMach. But this is a suspension not for a log-able event like suspicious traffic , and was determined my investigation to tie multiple accounts to one original owner, thereby breaking the TOS that the original owner agreed to.

    As many have stated before me, anyone who purchased an account from a third party does not have any legal business relationship with VirMach, your relationship is with the third party. As an example of what I am talking about, when a VPS provider gets shutdown by the DC he rents from for breaking their TOS. You cannot go to the DC and demand that they continue to provide the service you had with the VPS provider, because you have no legal relationship with the DC. The DC did not suspend you, they suspended the provider, even if you suffered damages the DC is not responsible in any way, the provider is. Virmach is the DC in this example, and the third party that you purchased the account from is the VPS provider. Virmach has not suspended you, but your provider. You only have a relationship of courtesy with VirMach, but have no binding legal relationship with VirMach until you signup for an account directly with VirMach and establish that legal relationship. You may wish it was different, but since VirMach is a USA LLC, it is not.

    EDIT:

    @ForMat_eXt4 said: You should refer to the old version of the document, which has been modified dozens of times.
    And customers will be exempted from account trade or transfer in private if they registered the account in early times, for example before 2015:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140907135447/http://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    You are not legally correct in you assumption. Every time you renew a contract or make a purchase with VirMach the account holder is taking a material action to agree with the AUP and TOS conditions that VirMach has at that time.

  • @ForMat_eXt4 said:

    @Franzkafka said: Let's read Virmach AUP again:
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    No need for real info.
    No clear rules that don't allow users transfer service privately.

    Anyway they always can catch you for suspending your service with some excuses.

    You should refer to the old version of the document, which has been modified dozens of times.
    And customers will be exempted from account trade or transfer in private if they registered the account in early times, for example before 2015:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140907135447/http://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    I quote from the page you showed.

    We reserve the right to change these terms at any time without notification, so please review this document, at the very least, between each billing term.

    Fraud: We use automated fraud protection on all orders, so please enter all billing information correctly.

  • @ahnlak said:

    @Franzkafka said:
    Let's read Virmach AUP again:
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    No need for real info.
    No clear rules that don't allow users transfer service privately.

    Section 4J - "I) Assignment: This Agreement and the rights granted and obligations undertaken hereunder may not be transferred, assigned or delegated in any manner by Customer, but may be so transferred, assigned or delegated by VirMach."

    If you're going to link to terms "proving" your point, you might want to read them first.

    What you pasted here is in connection with This Agreement and the rights granted and obligations ,while not customer's service or server,these two things are different.

    🌟:SpartanHost,Cloudcone,Hostodo,WebHorizon
    💩:Virmach,Greencloud,Pacificrack really sucks

  • edited October 2022

    @kuroneko23 said: Fraud Protection: VirMach uses automated fraud protection on all orders, so please enter all billing information correctly. Do not use proxies when ordering, and do not try to mask your identity in any way

    Thank you but from my perserpective,this should be applied to order,so it's nonsense when Virmach suspended customer's service and require them provide the info that need to be correct after months usage.The order has completed yet and Virmach already received these money long time ago.

    🌟:SpartanHost,Cloudcone,Hostodo,WebHorizon
    💩:Virmach,Greencloud,Pacificrack really sucks

  • @FrankZ
    Thanks for explaining.
    It's very reasonable, and I totally agree.

    LowEndSpirit is most supreme.

  • edited October 2022

    What I found some terms related about account abuse in Virmach TOS is here(in AUP):

    B) Circumvention Prohibited: Customer agrees not to circumvent, abuse, or attempt to circumvent or abuse VirMach security measures and/or billing system. This includes, but is not limited to: creating multiple billing accounts for the same Customer or from the same household, using multiple accounts to deposit funds exceeding amount of funds permitted, creating a billing account for someone other than Customer, or abusing bugs in VirMach’s system. Any abuse will result in account closure and immediate Service termination, without refund. VirMach does not honor any pricing mistakes on their website and reserves the right to cancel such orders.

    🌟:SpartanHost,Cloudcone,Hostodo,WebHorizon
    💩:Virmach,Greencloud,Pacificrack really sucks

  • @Franzkafka said:

    @ahnlak said:

    @Franzkafka said:
    Let's read Virmach AUP again:
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/

    No need for real info.
    No clear rules that don't allow users transfer service privately.

    Section 4J - "I) Assignment: This Agreement and the rights granted and obligations undertaken hereunder may not be transferred, assigned or delegated in any manner by Customer, but may be so transferred, assigned or delegated by VirMach."

    If you're going to link to terms "proving" your point, you might want to read them first.

    What you pasted here is in connection with This Agreement and the rights granted and obligations ,while not customer's service or server,these two things are different.

    I... do not think you comprehend what a "contract" is.

    Regardless, if you bought an account from a third party (in direct violation of this term) then you aren't a customer of Virmach anyway, so they have literally no obligation to you in any form AT ALL.

    I'm not sure how we can possibly say this more clearly. You're NOT THEIR CUSTOMER - you're the customer of the shady guy you bought the account from, so go complain to him instead?

  • If you bought it from a reseller:

    You didn't buy anything from Virmach, you bought it from random other person, you have NO contract, no rights, no privileges, NOTHING with Virmach.

    Stop trying to make yourself look like the victim. You knowingly were involved in breaking the rules.

  • edited October 2022

    @Franzkafka said:

    Thank you but from my perserpective,this should be applied to order,so it's nonsense when Virmach suspended customer's service and require them provide the info that need to be correct after months usage.The order has completed yet and Virmach already received these money long time ago.

    As far as I know, the billing information is tied to your account personal information. They might approved your order at the time of purchase but they can do a manual review even after the services is deployed for suspicious order (or in this case, fake/masked billing information) and thus trigger a suspension. Of course this is just a speculation and only Virmach can give us their own intrepretation.

    Let me join the bus thingy

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    @ben said:
    Boss, your focus should be to punish the abuse of resources, it could be a disaster if you insist on the authenticity of Chinese users' information, because they use vps to traverse GFW, if the data is leaked, they will result in being warned or even imprisoned by the Chinese government, so many of them are afraid to fill in the real information because of that.

    so MJJs already broke the law even before buying from scalpers, that's amusing.

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • ~~~~> @QuantumCat said:

    Hi, I'm the original owner of my account, why my vps got suspended, I have no idea what term I abused, I have all the correspondences from Virmach system from first day I registered, included notification from system and I can provide all the payment receipt for my purchasing. I just renewed annual service of all my vps on last month, that's so unfair to me.

    I would like to know if I provide relavent evidents to proof that I'm the original owner of my account,(and also I can provide the evidents that I'm the domain name owner of my email address), my suspended vps can be relieved?

    Thanks for your help in advance.
    Best Regards

    I know this username from GBAtemp.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @cybertech said: ..already broke the law..

    Not law, rule.
    (There's a rugby commentator that keeps going on about laws, when there are no laws in the sport; they are rules.)
    ((Sorry for being pedantic. ;) ))

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
    Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
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  • edited October 2022

    @ben said:
    Boss, your focus should be to punish the abuse of resources, it could be a disaster if you insist on the authenticity of Chinese users' information, because they use vps to traverse GFW, if the data is leaked, they will result in being warned or even imprisoned by the Chinese government, so many of them are afraid to fill in the real information because of that.

    This actually has a huge relation to abuse of resources. It has no relation to Chinese users. It does have a relation to some people from HostLoc. Every time we de-prioritized handling these, it's continued to result it more and more abuse.

    Every time someone abuses and I deal with it, and I see over and over it's related to the other issue, then I focus on that again, which helps with the abuse of resources.

    (edit) As for concerns, that's fine. You don't have to provide it if you're in China. That just means if it's necessary to be able to prove you're a different person than some other user you're connected to then you can't. In the future definitely don't do that then since you have other special circumstances.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @ben said: ..or even imprisoned by the Chinese government..

    So the billions need to kick them out. Put their energy to something useful. Simple.

    Edit: not a Virmach issue

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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  • edited October 2022

    @cybertech said: so MJJs already broke the law even before buying from scalpers, that's amusing.

    Yep, that is the daily life in a authoritarian totalitarian state.

    Ontario Dildo Inspector

  • @VirMach said: HostLoc

    The largest Virmach BF specials retailer platform, LOL

    Ontario Dildo Inspector

  • 1 month of laxa014 being down 😂

    Want free vps ? https://microlxc.net

  • @codelock said: 1 month of laxa014 being down 😂

    Ontario Dildo Inspector

  • @codelock said:
    1 month of laxa014 being down 😂

    i jumped to the other ship while it was online (19/09/22) 😂 i knew the problem will not be solved anytime soon™, so when i realize the node suddenly online, i used "The Flash" power to login and click Ryzen Migrate button. now, i'm in laxa025 👍

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @netrix said:
    i jumped to the other ship while it was online (19/09/22) 😂 i knew the problem will not be solved anytime soon™, so when i realize the node suddenly online, i used "The Flash" power to login and click Ryzen Migrate button. now, i'm in laxa025 👍

  • @VirMach said:
    Although I will say if ARIN pushes for our client list on a spreadsheet for V6 the way they did with V4

    They shouldn't. Practically anyone can get up to a /32 with minimum fuss. And if you already have an ASN, it should be essentially be a done deal just for the asking.

  • @ForMat_eXt4 said:
    3. Look at what GreenCloud did when suspending service (I mean providing some sort of proof, instead of stating a vague "not in good standing"):
    https://ibb.co/QpyDMhH

    OMG! You got suspended Greencloud Birthday Promo? BIG RED FLAG HERE!!!... Nothing further your honor

  • @risturiz said: Nothing further your honor

    LOL

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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  • Is it possible that some or even most of the people who buy accounts from scalpers/resellers are doing it to increase their level of anonymity in their home country? That would explain them paying more for a service that they can buy directly from VirMach at close to the same price. If they are using the VPS for VPN to circumvent the GFW this would add an extra step if the authorities ever try to trace the actual identity of a particular VPN user.

    And maybe they don't want to talk about this in an online forum, because you know, repressive authoritarian dictatorship type government and all?

    Playing the devil's advocate here.

  • @VirMach is FFME004 dead?

  • @drizbo said:
    @VirMach is FFME004 dead?

    and TYOC039 still has problem with new provisioned VPS. It seems the problem with the hard disk is not fixed.

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027
    edited October 2022

    @drizbo said: @VirMach is FFME004 dead?

    Agent hasn't sent any data in the past: 452 minutes

    jab@FFME04:~$ uptime
    -bash: /usr/bin/uptime: Input/output error

    :scream:

    and after shutdown

    R I P

    Update: hardware maintenance has been delayed as the node has remained stable and already has a lower quantity of services thus requiring less memory.

    Murphy's law strikes again, lmao.

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • @JDMcPea said: to increase their level of anonymity in their home country

    no
    they will pay with crypto instead

  • Yesterday
    Love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday

  • @tenpera said:
    Yesterday
    Love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday

    either sleep or pornhub can be good now.

  • @tenpera said:
    Yesterday
    Love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday

    Suddenly!

  • @VirMach said: This actually has a huge relation to abuse of resources. It has no relation to Chinese users.

    Consider adding payment for vps abuse.Once abused, warn first. Then suspended vps and automatic billing.Simply increasing the cost to abusers would be a good solution.

  • @edenten said:
    Consider adding payment for vps abuse.Once abused, warn first. Then suspended vps and automatic billing.Simply increasing the cost to abusers would be a good solution.

    As a customer who doesn't abuse services, no thanks. I'm happy to see abusers get the boot, it will only improve my service.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint OG RETIRED
    edited October 2022

    @bakageta said: I'm happy to see abusers get the boot, it will only improve my service.

    Just wait until it applies to the abusers that port scan local networks - including lazy users/so-called admins that don't configure their software correctly. That'd put the cat amongst the pigeons! Terabytes of reclaimed storage due to reduced message logs. Small performance boost and reduced latency due to less 'bogus' packets being blasted (broadcast). Theoretically. ;)

    In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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  • @edenten said:

    @VirMach said: This actually has a huge relation to abuse of resources. It has no relation to Chinese users.

    Consider adding payment for vps abuse.

    Sure, just pay the $25 suspension fee and we can already investigate it thoroughly, and if you're just a buyer you basically get to move to another account and the $25 covers the abuse/processing. This option has been there.

  • edited October 2022

    Uptime 3 days, it did have issues earlier, I think we posted about it. What problem are you having?

    (Okay found a ticket, investigating.)

    edit: this is an error with one of our new monitoring systems that's supposed to help out during disk failure, it didn't fire off properly, that's being fixed as well so we catch it sooner next time.

  • @VirMach, FFME004 is off again, is there any way to get the hell out of here to somewhere else?

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