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AnthonySmith

@Scioner said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Network Bandwith: 100 Mbps (middle tier for FR)
Test Result (ookla): 5.33 Mbps

It is confusing, no matter how you see it. Again, I neither need, nor want more. It's more than enough for $1.5/y vps. But 20x gap between selected and tested numbers is kinda off.

ok the re-balancer has been running around 5 hours now.

In France, the same VPS on the 200Mbit Tier

Before: 1.06MB/s (10 Mbps)

After: 23.9MB/s (200 Mbps with a bit of burst at the start)

I can only apologise, I had not realised how bad it had got in some places, abusers are gonna find a way to abuse!

AnthonySmith

mainsite updated

AnthonySmith

I will get a speedtest/LG page up and a "WHAT IS TierHive" page to make sure people know what they are getting in bullet points before purchase in the coming week.

TemporiousOne

@AnthonySmith said:
... I will get in touch with @Advin this week to increase capacity in Kansas, as it's running like shit now; he replied to my last request, and I missed his reply.

Kansas is not available to select from the location drop down list. It's still running really slow?

AnthonySmith

@TemporiousOne said:

@AnthonySmith said:
... I will get in touch with @Advin this week to increase capacity in Kansas, as it's running like shit now; he replied to my last request, and I missed his reply.

Kansas is not available to select from the location drop down list. It's still running really slow?

Waiting for more capacity, me and @Advin are like ships that pass in n the night haha.

I will have a shop around for other options in Kansas as I can't keep up with demand there

havoc

Ant is it possible to reinstall OS without losing bonuses like the 2.5x network?

AnthonySmith

@havoc said:
Ant is it possible to reinstall OS without losing bonuses like the 2.5x network?

Yeah that won't impact it at all.

Michal212

Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

lgsin

@Michal212 said:
Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?

Michal212

@lgsin said:

@Michal212 said:
Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?

No

Michal212

@lgsin said:

@Michal212 said:
Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?

Update:
I managed to break into the iPXE shell via VNC using Ctrl+B and manually configured the network settings using my NAT details, but I am still getting a timeout.

Here is exactly what I entered:

Plaintext
set net0/ip 10.6.178.2
set net0/netmask 255.255.255.0
set net0/gateway 10.6.178.1
set dns 1.1.1.1
chain --autofree http://boot.netboot.xyz
Even when switching from https:// to http:// to avoid any SSL verification issues, it still ends up with a timeout error. It seems like the iPXE environment on this NAT network simply cannot route outside to the WAN.

AnthonySmith

@Michal212 said:

@lgsin said:

@Michal212 said:
Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?

No

That's the problem then

Michal212

@AnthonySmith said:

@Michal212 said:

@lgsin said:

@Michal212 said:
Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?

No

That's the problem then

it still doesn't work

AnthonySmith

@Michal212 said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Michal212 said:

@lgsin said:

@Michal212 said:
Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?

No

That's the problem then

it still doesn't work

skorous

Can you even netboot.xyz on 128mb of RAM?

AnthonySmith

@skorous said:
Can you even netboot.xyz on 128mb of RAM?

yeah but its obviously limited, not everything will work.

Michal212

@AnthonySmith said:

@Michal212 said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Michal212 said:

@lgsin said:

@Michal212 said:
Hey guys,

I just bought one of the tiny 128MB RAM / 5GB SSD NAT VPS plans on TierHive. When creating the instance, I selected "No operating system" because I wanted to do a clean install myself via iPXE.

However, I'm stuck in a boot loop. When I open the VNC console, iPXE tries to configure the network but fails with:
Configuring (net0...) ... No configuration methods succeeded

Then it says No bootable device and reboots. It seems like DHCP doesn't work out of the box with the NAT network configuration in the iPXE environment.

Is there a quick fix to get Debian 12 installed on this without wrestling with iPXE, or do I have to configure the network manually inside the iPXE shell?

DHCP service which cost a tiny bit is off by default. Did you turn it on?

No

That's the problem then

it still doesn't work

Thank you

Radi

How's the API ongoing? I have a project idea in mind that could make use of it .

AnthonySmith

@Radi said:
How's the API ongoing? I have a project idea in mind that could make use of it .

API is fine, but it wont be public until we move to beta, probably early 2027 its looking like right now, to many things changing to often to produce reliable documentation right now.

WSS

@skorous said:
Can you even netboot.xyz on 128mb of RAM?

Devuan works fine, but the limited RAM installer is really buggy. It doesn't like to load most filesystems. Probably hasn't been tested in years.

AnthonySmith

Additional capacity added in Kansas, thanks again to @Advin for making this possible.

AnthonySmith

Kansas network speed has been boosted (upgrade then downgrade or the other way around network to take advantage).

Hillsboro Oregon (West coast) will release in a few hours

WSS

Do I need to spin up a new instance to alter Vint Hill? I wanted to add some HDD for a backup cron and it isn't showing that option.

Neoon

When South West?

AnthonySmith

@WSS said:
Do I need to spin up a new instance to alter Vint Hill? I wanted to add some HDD for a backup cron and it isn't showing that option.

Couple of options.

1. I can add some extra space.
2. Use the backup scheduler which backs up to Vint hill anyway
3. I move you to a node that supports slow storage, haproxy will work anyway on the mesh on the existing IP.
4. Pop a ticket in and we will come up with something else

WSS

@AnthonySmith said:
3. I move you to a node that supports slow storage, haproxy will work anyway on the mesh on the existing IP.
4. Pop a ticket in and we will come up with something else

Not a big deal. I don't really need any more 'fast' space, I could probably even downgrade to 5GB there; I was just considering future and paring down one of my 3 VPS eventually. I might just queue up the local backup which would handle most of my concern anyway. I just have a few GB of data that I still hold onto- for now.

AnthonySmith

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:
3. I move you to a node that supports slow storage, haproxy will work anyway on the mesh on the existing IP.
4. Pop a ticket in and we will come up with something else

Not a big deal. I don't really need any more 'fast' space, I could probably even downgrade to 5GB there; I was just considering future and paring down one of my 3 VPS eventually. I might just queue up the local backup which would handle most of my concern anyway. I just have a few GB of data that I still hold onto- for now.

Well if it gets to be a pain just open a ticket I will sort something.

I guess it's technically possible to just backup, delete, create with HDD using the same ip, then restore.

AnthonySmith

@Neoon said:
When South West?

Mexico?

Not_Oles

Phoenix, please. 😃

xms

will there be a metadata endpoint support? it will really help with some recipes.

also will there be IPv6 subnet support? at least /80 similar to AWS. Assigning 1 IP is a IPv4 thing.

AnthonySmith

@xms said: will there be a metadata endpoint support? it will really help with some recipes.

Yes at some point, but honestly not soon.

@xms said: also will there be IPv6 subnet support? at least /80 similar to AWS. Assigning 1 IP is a IPv4 thing.

We will likely never blindly route a full subnet to a single VPS, due to the many attack vectors that, because of the operating model, we cannot mitigate, it also makes the longer-term plan of having elastic IPv6 near impossible, so we do have a /64 per location per customer and you will need to whitelist the IPs you want to use.

If you have a widely used and practical use for an entire routed subnet to a small VPS I am not considering, I will discuss it with the guys, we dont get everything right and ignoring customers is not helpful

The experience so far is that <2% of customers want IPv6, and about 50% of those literally have no idea how to even configure it.

xms

@AnthonySmith said: If you have a widely used and practical use for an entire routed subnet to a small VPS I am not considering, I will discuss it with the guys, we dont get everything right and ignoring customers is not helpful

My use case is for docker containers.

No worries though, in current state I can use 1 vm for 1 container in host mode for now.

AnthonySmith

@xms said:

@AnthonySmith said: If you have a widely used and practical use for an entire routed subnet to a small VPS I am not considering, I will discuss it with the guys, we dont get everything right and ignoring customers is not helpful

My use case is for docker containers.

No worries though, in current state I can use 1 vm for 1 container in host mode for now.

I avoid docker like a rash, so maybe I am missing something, why does a routed subnet help?

I guess so you can have externally routed individual containers and assign locally instead of having to worry about manually issuing an IPv6 address?

WSS

@AnthonySmith said:
The experience so far is that <2% of customers want IPv6, and about 50% of those literally have no idea how to even configure it.

luis

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

AnthonySmith

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

luis

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

AnthonySmith

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

He is pretty quiet and antisocial, likes to walk in back lanes, happy in his own silence, you know, a nerd.

AnthonySmith

Hopefully, the first version of this launches tomorrow.

It has truly pushed the limits of my patience.

Free tier for life to anyone who has ever made a payment. I will find some way to grandfather that in. Right now, there are only 2 plans: free and paid. Paid is $0.000040 /hr per 100mb, up to 10,000 files, 1GB data, 100 domains, 100 zones.

Free is limited to 3 locations per Zone and 25MB

Will be fun to see how people break it.

WSS

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

AnthonySmith

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

I might have to do a karl pilkington AI chat about IPv6 haha

luis

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

You got it. 😂

WSS

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

I might have to do a karl pilkington AI chat about IPv6 haha

Courtesy of Z - (GLM 5.1) with minor course corrections by WSS.

Right, so I’ve been looking into this IPv6 malarkey, and honestly, it’s just typical, innit? They can’t just leave stuff alone.

You had the old internet addresses, right? IPv4. Four little numbers. Like a house number. 192 dot something dot something dot whatever. Simple. Easy to remember. You could write it on a bit of paper, stick it on a fridge, job done. Even a monkey could remember four numbers.

But no, that wasn't good enough for the tech heads. They went, "Oh, we're running out of numbers." Are we? Or did you just give them all away to stuff that doesn't need them? My mate's got a smart toaster. A toaster! Why does a toaster need an address? It’s just burning bread. It doesn't need an Internet postcode. It doesn't need to be online. You don't get home from work and go, "Oh, I must ping the crumpets." It's bloody mental.

So their big solution is IPv6. Have you seen this? It’s not even numbers anymore, it’s got letters innit. Since when did letters get involved in counting? It’s like a barcode threw up. You’ve got colons everywhere, it just goes on and on like a decimal point having a nervous breakdown. It looks like the serial number on the back of a fridge that you’re never meant to read.

And they go, "Oh, well there's enough of these for every grain of sand on Earth." Why would a grain of sand need an internet address? What's it gonna do, email the sea? "Dear Ocean, I'm getting wet, please advise." It's daft.

If you've run out of the short numbers, just take the old ones back off the websites nobody visits. All those GeoCities pages from 1998 about somebody's cat. Sweep 'em up, reuse 'em. It's like recycling. But they don't want to do the tidy-up, do they? They just want to invent a new system that no one can remember.

If I have to read out an address to someone down the phone, I’ll be there till Thursday. "F colon A colon zero zero zero..." It's doing my head in. I’m not using it. I’ll just stick to me four numbers until the internet breaks, and then I'll go read a book.

luis

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

I might have to do a karl pilkington AI chat about IPv6 haha

Courtesy of Z - (GLM 5.1) with minor course corrections by WSS.

Right, so I’ve been looking into this IPv6 malarkey, and honestly, it’s just typical, innit? They can’t just leave stuff alone.

You had the old internet addresses, right? IPv4. Four little numbers. Like a house number. 192 dot something dot something dot whatever. Simple. Easy to remember. You could write it on a bit of paper, stick it on a fridge, job done. Even a monkey could remember four numbers.

But no, that wasn't good enough for the tech heads. They went, "Oh, we're running out of numbers." Are we? Or did you just give them all away to stuff that doesn't need them? My mate's got a smart toaster. A toaster! Why does a toaster need an address? It’s just burning bread. It doesn't need an Internet postcode. It doesn't need to be online. You don't get home from work and go, "Oh, I must ping the crumpets." It's bloody mental.

So their big solution is IPv6. Have you seen this? It’s not even numbers anymore, it’s got letters innit. Since when did letters get involved in counting? It’s like a barcode threw up. You’ve got colons everywhere, it just goes on and on like a decimal point having a nervous breakdown. It looks like the serial number on the back of a fridge that you’re never meant to read.

And they go, "Oh, well there's enough of these for every grain of sand on Earth." Why would a grain of sand need an internet address? What's it gonna do, email the sea? "Dear Ocean, I'm getting wet, please advise." It's daft.

If you've run out of the short numbers, just take the old ones back off the websites nobody visits. All those GeoCities pages from 1998 about somebody's cat. Sweep 'em up, reuse 'em. It's like recycling. But they don't want to do the tidy-up, do they? They just want to invent a new system that no one can remember.

If I have to read out an address to someone down the phone, I’ll be there till Thursday. "F colon A colon zero zero zero..." It's doing my head in. I’m not using it. I’ll just stick to me four numbers until the internet breaks, and then I'll go read a book.

Perfect.

WSS

@luis said:

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

I might have to do a karl pilkington AI chat about IPv6 haha

Courtesy of Z - (GLM 5.1) with minor course corrections by WSS.

Right, so I’ve been looking into this IPv6 malarkey, and honestly, it’s just typical, innit? They can’t just leave stuff alone.

You had the old internet addresses, right? IPv4. Four little numbers. Like a house number. 192 dot something dot something dot whatever. Simple. Easy to remember. You could write it on a bit of paper, stick it on a fridge, job done. Even a monkey could remember four numbers.

But no, that wasn't good enough for the tech heads. They went, "Oh, we're running out of numbers." Are we? Or did you just give them all away to stuff that doesn't need them? My mate's got a smart toaster. A toaster! Why does a toaster need an address? It’s just burning bread. It doesn't need an Internet postcode. It doesn't need to be online. You don't get home from work and go, "Oh, I must ping the crumpets." It's bloody mental.

So their big solution is IPv6. Have you seen this? It’s not even numbers anymore, it’s got letters innit. Since when did letters get involved in counting? It’s like a barcode threw up. You’ve got colons everywhere, it just goes on and on like a decimal point having a nervous breakdown. It looks like the serial number on the back of a fridge that you’re never meant to read.

And they go, "Oh, well there's enough of these for every grain of sand on Earth." Why would a grain of sand need an internet address? What's it gonna do, email the sea? "Dear Ocean, I'm getting wet, please advise." It's daft.

If you've run out of the short numbers, just take the old ones back off the websites nobody visits. All those GeoCities pages from 1998 about somebody's cat. Sweep 'em up, reuse 'em. It's like recycling. But they don't want to do the tidy-up, do they? They just want to invent a new system that no one can remember.

If I have to read out an address to someone down the phone, I’ll be there till Thursday. "F colon A colon zero zero zero..." It's doing my head in. I’m not using it. I’ll just stick to me four numbers until the internet breaks, and then I'll go read a book.

Perfect.

I'm not exactly sure why Ant knows that I'm familiar with the round-headed buffoon (as a Yank, it's pretty rare), but I absolutely loved his diary sections from the XFM Gervais show.

Edit: Forgot about my new signature.

AnthonySmith

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

I might have to do a karl pilkington AI chat about IPv6 haha

Courtesy of Z - (GLM 5.1) with minor course corrections by WSS.

Right, so I’ve been looking into this IPv6 malarkey, and honestly, it’s just typical, innit? They can’t just leave stuff alone.

You had the old internet addresses, right? IPv4. Four little numbers. Like a house number. 192 dot something dot something dot whatever. Simple. Easy to remember. You could write it on a bit of paper, stick it on a fridge, job done. Even a monkey could remember four numbers.

But no, that wasn't good enough for the tech heads. They went, "Oh, we're running out of numbers." Are we? Or did you just give them all away to stuff that doesn't need them? My mate's got a smart toaster. A toaster! Why does a toaster need an address? It’s just burning bread. It doesn't need an Internet postcode. It doesn't need to be online. You don't get home from work and go, "Oh, I must ping the crumpets." It's bloody mental.

So their big solution is IPv6. Have you seen this? It’s not even numbers anymore, it’s got letters innit. Since when did letters get involved in counting? It’s like a barcode threw up. You’ve got colons everywhere, it just goes on and on like a decimal point having a nervous breakdown. It looks like the serial number on the back of a fridge that you’re never meant to read.

And they go, "Oh, well there's enough of these for every grain of sand on Earth." Why would a grain of sand need an internet address? What's it gonna do, email the sea? "Dear Ocean, I'm getting wet, please advise." It's daft.

If you've run out of the short numbers, just take the old ones back off the websites nobody visits. All those GeoCities pages from 1998 about somebody's cat. Sweep 'em up, reuse 'em. It's like recycling. But they don't want to do the tidy-up, do they? They just want to invent a new system that no one can remember.

If I have to read out an address to someone down the phone, I’ll be there till Thursday. "F colon A colon zero zero zero..." It's doing my head in. I’m not using it. I’ll just stick to me four numbers until the internet breaks, and then I'll go read a book.

Perfect.

I'm not exactly sure why Ant knows that I'm familiar with the round-headed buffoon (as a Yank, it's pretty rare), but I absolutely loved his diary sections from the XFM Gervais show.

Edit: Forgot about my new signature.

Have you seen Derek? Highly recommend

Not_Oles

@AnthonySmith said: Free tier for life to anyone who has ever made a payment.

Thanks Ant! Much appreciated!

AnthonySmith

update 0.8.6

Who saw the title and assumed a price hike?

TierHive Alpha 0.8.6 released.

• We no longer bill for compute resources when the VPS is powered off, only storage.
• Static Hosting is live, see: https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/10929/tierhive-static-hosting-launch-1-payment-for-life-you-get-to-use-the-credit-on-a-vps-as-well
• Backups are made more robust and target the location with the lowest latency.
• New locations recently added (Hillsboro, Oregon USA - Amsterdam, Netherlands - Warsaw, Poland)
• Kansas resources doubled (Thanks @Advin )
• We hit a big growth snag and hit a lot of scale issues, which caused about 2 weeks of non-stop work and tail chasing hell, but we have overcome that now.
• IPv6 use (allocated) has jumped up to 2.3% of users as of right now.
• Australia remains the least busy location, followed by Poland, whilst Germany and Singapore are by far the busiest.

The static hosting is the last MAJOR feature that we planned for Alpha, and we massively underestimated the complexity in providing a simple service like this, so we are actually about 6 weeks behind.

For the rest of the year, we are going to be focused on new locations, bug fixes and UI changes, when we get to a point of stability (we fix bugs almost daily right now) we will start to get a feel for the date of moving to BETA.

I have a literal book of comments from people who have been good enough to provide feedback. Please keep them coming, so we can start working through those items after a bit of a mental break.

WSS

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@luis said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Scioner said:
I have to say it's even more confusing now (it will not stop me from top up, as it's most interesting vps concept i've seen ever).

I do understand "alpha" state of the project. I do understand bandwith can vary, and it's widely depends. But having those numbers back to back is even more confusing than it was before imo.

I can't see those images because Imgur is blocked and I am on my phone.

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on the battle station again, not sure how knowing the speed Vs not knowing the speed is more confusing though, maybe it will make sense when I can see your pics

Are you in London by any chance? We should have a drink!

I make every possible effort to stay at least 100 miles away from London at all times. Currently managing around 300 miles, I start to suffer from depression when that number even gets close to 150.

😅 Well let me know if you ever reduce that to 0 and I'll buy you a drink! Would be great to get to know the Anthony Smith!

Make sure to bring up IPv6. He likes that.

I might have to do a karl pilkington AI chat about IPv6 haha

Courtesy of Z - (GLM 5.1) with minor course corrections by WSS.

Right, so I’ve been looking into this IPv6 malarkey, and honestly, it’s just typical, innit? They can’t just leave stuff alone.

You had the old internet addresses, right? IPv4. Four little numbers. Like a house number. 192 dot something dot something dot whatever. Simple. Easy to remember. You could write it on a bit of paper, stick it on a fridge, job done. Even a monkey could remember four numbers.

But no, that wasn't good enough for the tech heads. They went, "Oh, we're running out of numbers." Are we? Or did you just give them all away to stuff that doesn't need them? My mate's got a smart toaster. A toaster! Why does a toaster need an address? It’s just burning bread. It doesn't need an Internet postcode. It doesn't need to be online. You don't get home from work and go, "Oh, I must ping the crumpets." It's bloody mental.

So their big solution is IPv6. Have you seen this? It’s not even numbers anymore, it’s got letters innit. Since when did letters get involved in counting? It’s like a barcode threw up. You’ve got colons everywhere, it just goes on and on like a decimal point having a nervous breakdown. It looks like the serial number on the back of a fridge that you’re never meant to read.

And they go, "Oh, well there's enough of these for every grain of sand on Earth." Why would a grain of sand need an internet address? What's it gonna do, email the sea? "Dear Ocean, I'm getting wet, please advise." It's daft.

If you've run out of the short numbers, just take the old ones back off the websites nobody visits. All those GeoCities pages from 1998 about somebody's cat. Sweep 'em up, reuse 'em. It's like recycling. But they don't want to do the tidy-up, do they? They just want to invent a new system that no one can remember.

If I have to read out an address to someone down the phone, I’ll be there till Thursday. "F colon A colon zero zero zero..." It's doing my head in. I’m not using it. I’ll just stick to me four numbers until the internet breaks, and then I'll go read a book.

Perfect.

I'm not exactly sure why Ant knows that I'm familiar with the round-headed buffoon (as a Yank, it's pretty rare), but I absolutely loved his diary sections from the XFM Gervais show.

Edit: Forgot about my new signature.

Have you seen Derek? Highly recommend

I can't stand Ricky Gervais anymore. I saw two episodes of that and that was enough for me. I did enjoy Extras. Stephen Merchant's brief show was pretty fun.

AnthonySmith

Fedora 44 and Ubuntu 26 have been added.

I see OpenBSD 7.9 is out so I suppose we better get on that too soon!

Added IPv6 DNS checks to static hosting as that was giving flase positive results on SSL if you have a rogue AAAA record configured.

Static hosting has 25 active users already, pretty happy about that!